Been confirmed Hock has left the club with immediate effect MC.

Marwan Koukash @drmarwanK · 59 mins 59 minutes ago
Gareth Hock has left the club. I thank him for his services and wish him well and the very best for the future . Good luck mate

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What ever you think of Gaz as a player, he is a very nice person and did deserve all the help he got and will get off me

And the owner tweeted on Monday night: "Gareth Hock has left the club.

“I thank him for his services and wish him well and the very best for the future. Good luck mate.”

Hock posted on his own Twitter feed: “I have now left Salford.

“I would like to thank the club & Marwan for the support & help and the fans - wish them all the best.”

Could all this have anything to do with Tim Sheens or has he not had any input yet?

Gutted about this as i was hoping for a big season from him. Dispite his problems he was a quality rugby player.

If the season does not become as successful as we hope ([size=85as usual[/size), and we end up playing Leigh to save us from relegation; I fear Hock's and Dixon's input. It would not be nice for us.

No I'm not a half-full or half-empty glass person. Just a long lasting Salford fan.

Long suffering surely?

I hope that the RFL has a good support mechanism in place for when Gaz leaves professional rugby altogether. We don't want another Terry Newton scenario on our hands.

Gutted things did`nt work out at Salford , hope things are better for him in the future .

I am gutted he's gone but time for the club to move on. Chance for the young back rowers in Walton & Lannon

Surely you should be delighted? Brought your club nothing but bad press and cheap penalties? I'd be dancing with joy after offloading an idiotic penalty machine such as him.

Totally agree, don't forget Gee, who's will be in front of Lannon. Let's hope they can do the job !!

Yes got some decent back rowers not worried about that position. Paterson, Hansen, Hauraki, Walton, Gee, Lannon, J.Walne i think were ok

In a sense, this sums up my thoughts to a tee. We will be a better team without Gareth Hock in it BUT I am disappointed that it didn’t work out, everyone in RL knows what a player he is on his day but we only ever seen glimpses of that (this was despite the immense support of the clubs owner, head coach and supporters).

Personally, I hope it gives one of our youngsters the opportunity to showcase their skills as a first team regular.

On the flipside however, I'm guessing his release will free up enough salary cap space to bring in a decent, proven replacement.

Would you not have had to buy his contract out, and such monies come out of the salary cap?

Hock won't have just left without a decent pay-off.

I'm not exactly sure how this cap system works? Assuming the Doc has agreed a severance package with Hock, would this not count against our salary cap for 2015? If however we have some room for an extra signing, then a hooker has to be the top priority but is there a player currently available better than what we already have?

To be honest, I'm not sure either. I guess Hock would have had some sort of payoff.

allow me. There are several factors that won't be public knowledge, which means that there's a lot of educated guess work. These are:

1) whether hock took a payoff to walk away from his contract, or, koukash had behavoiur clauses in his contract which gave him grounds to terminate (aka he was sacked)
2) how hocks contract was structured and how this related to his cap value (earnings is not what the cap value is) and how any payoff would compare to his cap value.

The SC has protocols in place to allow clubs to have the option to terminate contracts and protect them from players being irreplaceable - however it is a case by case basis (to stop clubs abusing the rule I guess). If hock was pushed rather than jumped, then Salford have grounds for any layoff costs be counted outside of the cap:



Meaning that the rfl will write off the termination payoff and Salford will be free to replace his cap value without breaking the SC rules.

However, if they refuse this, (I'm not sure on what grounds, usually they are only refused if the team has been proved to have been in the wrong iirc, so Hock would have to take it to tribunal) or Hock jumped and just took a payoff, then that will be put into the cap calculations.

The simplest (but probably least likely) option is Hock was paid a base salary only, took the rest of the years pay, and walked away from the 2 years after this year he had left iirc. This would be counted on the cap and be equivalent of Hock leaving for free at the end of the year.

More likely, Hock will have bonuses built into his contract, appearances bonus etc, which will affect his cap value. If he accepts his base pay as payoff, then Salford will free up the difference between his cap value and his base value.

In the unlikely event that the payoff includes the remaining years he had left, and the payoff is higher than his cap space for this year, Salford will (probably) be given the option to either take the hit if they still have the space to accommodate the extra cap, or spread the increased cap size between years up to the length of the contract hock would of had, meaning he would count on next years cap for whatever value he was paid/2 etc.

... I think!

Hope I've made some kind of sense

Thanks for the explanation.

Hock signing for Leigh tomorrow according to the Daily Star. It says, Leigh believe they have what it takes to tame him. I'm not sure how this comment will be taken by Mr Harris, Mr Betts, Mr McNamara and a couple of former Wigan coaches?

Doc says he spent ten days trying to keep him at Salford , them mid eights will be an interesting place

Will Leigh make the mid eights after the salary cap points deduction?

Why was he so keen to leave though? What is the problem at the club that is making him unhappy and willing to drop down a division?