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| Just had a peruse through the pies board off the back of the Mossop news. In light of recent comments from MK about the talk of another prop, do the assembled masses think Taylor is worth a punt (whether permanent or on loan)?
I think I'd take him over Dudson....both of which the Wigan collective seem to think are now on the outer at that club.
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| I've always thought him too be more a second row come prop, which is something we're not short of. Dudson has his detractors but he is without doubt an out and out prop.
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| Taylor was homesick for Hull recently and it seemed he had decided on FC and they him,for 2016
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| Quote ="Red-Devils-PAW"Taylor was homesick for Hull recently and it seemed he had decided on FC and they him,for 2016
[url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-wait-Wigan-Warriors-Scott-Taylor/story-23130827-detail/story.htmlStory[/url'"
Home sick for Hull ?? it's a peculiar world we live in.
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| It's easier to get to Antwerp than from Wigan?
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| Quote ="ANTWERP RED"Home sick for Hull ??
it's a peculiar world we live in.'"
'Kings-town upon Hull named by longshanks, the Hammer of the Scots ' & Birthplace of William Wilberforce. & to be City of culture 2017 .
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| I would imagine Taylor will end up in Yorkshire somewhere, as he seems homesick. He was rumoured to be joining Huddersfield on a season long loan before joining Hull FC on a permanent deal in 2016. I imagine that loan-deal may still happen, but wouldn't be shocked if he ended up at Leeds either.
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| Homesick? He's a grown man and its 2 hours down the road.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Homesick? He's a grown man and its 2 hours down the road.'"
He and his girlfriend 'apparently' want to be closer to both of their families as they're expecting sometime soon. 2 hours is a bit far for the in-laws to nip round and baby sit!
I imagine we were in for Lee Mossop, Taylor would have been a great signing too but we will end up with Dudson.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"I imagine we were in for Lee Mossop, Taylor would have been a great signing too but we will end up with Dudson.'"
I don't see the issue with Dudson, a good young prop who will only improve with age, I'd take him and have Mozz mentor him and watch him progress.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"It's easier to get to Antwerp than from Wigan?'" Nearly 13 hours on the ferry from Zeebrugge , Probably the same as a Northern rail train journey with 2 changes and a 4 hour wait in Goole.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"I don't see the issue with Dudson, a good young prop who will only improve with age, I'd take him and have Mozz mentor him and watch him progress.'"
I’m not bagging him, just that I believe out of three mentioned he is the current weaker one. I see a lot of raw potential in Dudson and think it is way too early in his career to write him off.
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| Quote ="ANTWERP RED"Nearly 13 hours on the ferry from Zeebrugge , Probably the same as a Northern rail train journey with 2 changes and a 4 hour wait in Goole.'"
50 minutes Manchester - Charleroi and then about 90 Charleroi - Antwerp and a darn sight nicer than Hull.
Never understood the homesickness thing, fill your boots while you can and then go back home when the playing career is over, unless of course you're Joel Moon and need too move closer too the folks.
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| Quote unless of course you're Joel Moon and need too move closer too the folks.'"
To be Fair Moon did move considerably closer to home
10,199 mi
Distance from Salford to Caloundra QLD
10,163 mi
Distance from Leeds to Caloundra QLD
We can have no complaints!!
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| Apparently there is an announcement of a new signing today so I'd say Dudson is on board.
Just looked at his stats and I didn't realise he was as big as he is, 6ft 3 and 17 1/2 stone is one hell of a big unit.
Him and Tasi on from the start and then Mozz/Griffin/Forster/Groat/Walne as interchange is impressive, just hope Dobson can work behind them better than Smith did last year.
I doubt there will be a bigger pack than Salford next season with most of the new front rowers being well over the 17st mark.
Good thing for me is that in Walnex2 & TP we have players who can play big minutes in the 2nd row if needed so we really do have plenty of options off the bench.
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| I'm hearing we've signed Scott Taylor on a 12 month loan!
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| It's Scott Taylor 100% 1 year loan.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"
I don't see the issue with Dudson, a good young prop who will only improve with age, I'd take him and have Mozz mentor him and watch him progress.'"
Oh dear. I think we've found another word you can't do. It's actually spelt 'O..R..D..I..N..A..R..Y', not 'G..O..O..D'.
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| Quote ="Mike87"It's Scott Taylor 100% 1 year loan.'"
Gipsy Rose Red League. He sees the future. ("Is there an Elliott in the room...?"icon_wink.gif.
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| Quote ="Red John"Oh dear. I think we've found another word you can't do. It's actually spelt 'O..R..D..I..N..A..R..Y', not 'G..O..O..D'.'"
Maybe there's a clue in the name whether we've signed a ---'un .
Of the two I'd rather have Taylor , due to the form he showed at HKR .
Dudson only featured in 11 games last season so is on the outer .
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| Quote ="middleman"Quote ="Red John"Oh dear. I think we've found another word you can't do. It's actually spelt 'O..R..D..I..N..A..R..Y', not 'G..O..O..D'.'"
Maybe there's a clue in the name whether we've signed a ---'un .
Of the two I'd rather have Taylor , due to the form he showed at HKR .
Dudson only featured in 11 games last season so is on the outer .
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17 tackles per game.'"
Exactly. If you compare his stats over the past two years with the props we've had in that time, he doesn't look 'good' at all. Had he played for us last season he'd have been our second lowest average metre maker amongst the props (only Shannan McP had a lower average, and to be fair to Shannan, most of his metres were made towards the touchline on a stretcher), and average or below average on pretty much every other statistic. Same applies to 2013, and when you consider we finished bottom that year, I'm not sure that a player who wouldn't have stood out in that team (jeez, even Jake Emmett had a higher average gain that year) could ever be classed as 'good'.
It may still be the case that Dudson has potential (although he's failed to fulfil it at Wigan), but we already have a number of young props with potential (Adam Walne in particular is what a 'good young prop' looks like). What we need now is a prop who is closer to the finished article and, as you say, Taylor would be a much better signing.
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| Taylor would by far be the better of the two, although Dudson does have the raw potential to be a very good prop further down the line. However as RJ says, we have Adam Walne, Carl Forster, Luke Menzies and even Matt Groat as young potential props. Not forgetting the even younger George Tyson too, who I still feel will make it. We don’t need another.
After struggling for props last season, next year we’ll have; Mozza, Puletua, Tasi, Griffin, Taylor, Forster, A.Walne, Menzies and Groat. Assuming we’ll take four (min) into each game, it gives Harris’ a good selection dilemma.
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| from LoveRL
for 2014
17 Appearances 9 as sub, 4 tries, 1 man of match
from Wiki and Pies:
Height 6 ft 3 in (191 cm)
Weight 16 st 3 lb (103 kg)
however there's nothing definate on "The Rumour Mill"
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Taylor would by far be the better of the two, although Dudson does have the raw potential to be a very good prop further down the line. However as RJ says, we have Adam Walne, Carl Forster, Luke Menzies and even Matt Groat as young potential props. Not forgetting the even younger George Tyson too, who I still feel will make it. We don’t need another.
After struggling for props last season, next year we’ll have; Mozza, Puletua, Tasi, Griffin, Taylor, Forster, A.Walne, Menzies and Groat. Assuming we’ll take four (min) into each game, it gives Harris’ a good selection dilemma.'"
I see Matt Groat more as a Utility forward , not an out & out Prop, and I'm unsure whether we still have Tyson?
the more props the merrier .
likely two or three of the forwards are liable to have spells on the treatment table , and that extra yard of room made by the right forward creates so much opportunity , for the Halves & backs , just need a ' Roby ' now to exploit the room .
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| Quote ="middleman"I see Matt Groat more as a Utility forward , not an out & out Prop, and I'm unsure whether we still have Tyson?
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likely two or three of the forwards are liable to have spells on the treatment table , and that extra yard of room made by the right forward creates so much opportunity , for the Halves & backs , just need a ' Roby ' now to exploit the room .'"
Liam Hood could be just the man
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