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| Apparently Dr Koukash said he has decided who he wants after yesterdays match.That he will take 1 or 2 more soundings.There will be no announcement until he returns from the business trip he is going on on Monday.
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| Phil Kinsella has just stated on twitter that MK said poss announcement Wednesday or Thursday. Watch this space!!
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| Brian Noble appears to have been the good doctor's guest at Doncaster Races yesterday. I cannot imagine that he would have invited Brian Noble if Brian Noble did not feature in the future of the club.
If that is correct then why do we delay the announcement? Could it be that there is going to be another person involved in the new structure?
Pure speculation on my part I know, but I can't think of another explanation at this stage.
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| To me, it sounds like the Dr is priming the press for something additional too. Got to give him credit, so far he has mastered the art of manipulating the press to work in his favour.
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| As the Dr seems to fully appreciate the value of PR impact Iam surprised if the new coach is to be Noble unless as has been stated on here he is pulling together his coaching team.However I still see no value in delays for that.If it is Noble the press will come up with a collective "told you so" yawn unless he arrives with the "major signing" the Dr Koukash has been craving (now sanctioned by the new Head coach).
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| Just a theory but is everyone sure that the Doc is in Dubai and not off down under for reasons he'd rather keep under his hat until it all either does or doesn't pan out.
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| He has been quoted as saying the decision has already been made.He also used the term them
[url=http://www.express.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/387985/Koukash-makes-coaching-decisionSource[/url
I shouldn't think he will make decisions based on viewing cv's or by telephone and as it hasn't been reported he met with anyone other than Noble prior to the last home game it is almost certainly,in my view,a Noble v.Hunte decision.
The 'them' word may refer to who Noble has suggested as assistants et al.
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| You'll see the next Bradford Bulls in the coming years at Salford, i was speaking with a lad I know who's well in with the crowd at Leeds, he knows a friend of Brian Noble who apparently told him, it is noble who's got the job and with the money the DR will be giving him he's planning to build the team in the same mold of the Bulls side of the early 2000s, very big strong athletic players from England and Australia/New Zealand. He's going to completely change the way of training at the club wreatling training will be introduced and more weight training to add more size on players he feels need it. Discipline is going to be big for noble too as he believes discipline and hard work brings success. Let me tell you I was beaming with excitement after what i was told.
Exciting times.
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| So maybe not 5 drives and a kick after all then. Looks like 6 drives.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"So maybe not 5 drives and a kick after all then. Looks like 6 drives.'"
I can't believe people are slagging off a person that hasn't even taken over the team yet? Only a couple of months ago people were bracing themselves for the death of salford rugby. And now were moaning about recruiting one of the best coaches in SL history?
And the Bulls wernt 5 drives and a kick either otherwise how would players like vainicolo or vaikona score so many outwide.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"I can't believe people are slagging off a person that hasn't even taken over the team yet? Only a couple of months ago people were bracing themselves for the death of salford rugby. And now were moaning about recruiting one of the best coaches in SL history?
And the Bulls wernt 5 drives and a kick either otherwise how would players like vainicolo'"
Early upset that Steve's had to go.
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| Quote ="lancetodd"
Stop being a turd, Lance.
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| Red League - If you`ve have watched the game for a number of years you will know Nobby`s style. Get bigger forwards than the opposition - wear them out up the middle - Have a good kicker to apply the big up and unders on the last tackle, etc etc. As a player he was a good scooter from dummy half and rarely parted. Sure he wins but its not the Rugby I want to see but I will put up with winning Trophies over the course of his tenure! Just hope he doesnt forget to bring on our young talent.
My question to all the Noblefiles out there is why has Nobby been unemployed for nigh on 3 years?
As for Lance - well a comment `par for the course`. In every bunch of roses there is always a prick.
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| Whilst Bradford won plenty of Trophies their whole style of Rugby bored me to tears.
Big bruising forwards and backs who drove to the line and normally got it out wide for one of their huge wingers to score.
I do not think this style will work nowadays and that is the problem, Noble is old school and loath to change.
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| Is this the same Bradford Bulls that put 17 tries past us a few year back? No seriously I can understand where some posters are coming from. I do think there is a difference though between playing a physical style if you can afford to bring in size and quality, unlike McRae's adopted percentage game to accommodate a poor to average bunch of players and some youngsters.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Red League - If you`ve have watched the game for a number of years you will know Nobby`s style. Get bigger forwards than the opposition - wear them out up the middle - Have a good kicker to apply the big up and unders on the last tackle, etc etc. As a player he was a good scooter from dummy half and rarely parted. Sure he wins but its not the Rugby I want to see but I will put up with winning Trophies over the course of his tenure! Just hope he doesnt forget to bring on our young talent.
My question to all the Noblefiles out there is why has Nobby been unemployed for nigh on 3 years?
As for Lance - well a comment `par for the course`. In every bunch of roses there is always a prick.'"
Are you joking? Every top team play the same way. All the years St Helen's dominated yes they had long and tommy martyn who were decent with ball in hand, but the rest of the team was huge and used here weight to dominate the opposition pack. Same with Wigan, Leeds and now Warrington, all have big teams who smash through the opposition then when the forwards have done the damage the little guys and BIG centres and wingers run wild.
Look at Huddersfield now there just a carbon copy of the Bulls and it isn't doing them any harm what so ever.
And "you will put up with winning trophies" since when did Salford fans become arrogant? I just can't believe some of the rubbish people have come out with? And just because the Bulls played a certain way it doesn't mean noble will play the same way with us? He played that way at Bradford because that was to the players strengths who played there. If he brings any trophies to Salford he will go down as a club legend!
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Red League - If you`ve have watched the game for a number of years you will know Nobby`s style. Get bigger forwards than the opposition - wear them out up the middle - Have a good kicker to apply the big up and unders on the last tackle, etc etc. As a player he was a good scooter from dummy half and rarely parted. Sure he wins but its not the Rugby I want to see but I will put up with winning Trophies over the course of his tenure! Just hope he doesnt forget to bring on our young talent.
My question to all the Noblefiles out there is why has Nobby been unemployed for nigh on 3 years?.'"
Because imo he wanted to take some time out and couldn't get back in when he was ready.
Reaily in traditional salford style after so much time out of the game its his last chance to prove he still has the magic / processes to create a successful team, his greatest challenge to date imo
I have no worries about him being left behind in regards what practices are working and what isnt in the world of rugby league coaching he states in his book he regularly keeps tabs on developments in coaching in all different types of sports including rugby from all different coaches
If Noble can build a large pack with go forward and keep our current backs we would be a shoe in for the 8 definitely, possible 6 injuries permitting
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| Think that a different scenario in the backs is on the cards to what we all remember at the bulls.
With Williams and Broughton we have sheer pace not brute force along with Gleeson who looks like he still has plenty of magic, what I wouldn't give to see Moon playing for us still with a huge pack to give the backs a platform.
Think if we started off next season with three props in the Griffin mould we would be very intimidating down the middle and throw in a good skill #13 and there's the beginnings of a very competitive team indeed.
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| I was 13 when I watched Salford at Wembley. I just want to go again while I have still got my marbles. I went on regular rugby weekend trips to wembley and watched teams like Featherstone and Widnes and Sheffield get there. So before we start talking about playing champagne rugby lets get a winning mentality put in place and put something in the trophy cabinet. The rest will follow ( crowds etc ).
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| I'm not a Noble-Phile, but need to point out the following
Quote Red League - If you`ve have watched the game for a number of years you will know Nobby`s style. '"
No we don't :-It was Matthew Elliott who devised the Bulldozer tactics in the late 90's , Noble Succeeded Elliott
, played with more flair , scored far more points and was more successful . a Style Brian Mcdermott is essentially using now at Leeds.
Whilst at Wigan , He brought in Michael Dobson , Pat Richards , Trent Barrett & George Carmont, but also gave debuts to Lee Mossop- Sam Tomkins, Chris Tuson,& Mcilorum
The thrown together Crusaders side , he coached to a top 8 finish , used different tactics , 15 of the 2010 Crusaders Squad is still playing SL , including Jarrod Sammut & Elliot Kear .
Quote My question to all the Noble-philes out there is why has Nobby been unemployed for nigh on 3 years?'"
If you're to believe Noble , he sat out 2011, to recharge his batteries & also look for work in the NRL and bizzarely do research for the Gareth Thomas ' Film ' . In 2012 he passed up opportunities to coach Salford & Castleford , as he had already had his fill of under-funded SL clubs ,and he thought he was worthy of a higher appointment ...He also did some short term coaching at Halifax and his BBC work and wrote his Coaching book .
Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"I shouldn't think he will make decisions based on viewing cv's or by telephone and as it hasn't been reported he met with anyone other than Noble prior to the last home game it is almost certainly,in my view,a Noble v.Hunte decision.
The 'them' word may refer to who Noble has suggested as assistants et al.'"
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/mar/28/brian-noble-brian-smith-salford[/url
It has been reported Koukash has met others, the shortlist was 4-5 people according to Ed Farish .
Andy Wilson is convinced Koukash Flew out to Sydney earlier in March to interview Brian Smith . And Salford other two Advisors to Koukash ( Chalmers & Lowe ) are only across the Tasman and could have been in regular contact. - Press & PR has been maximised but only the info they want us to hear , they couldn't keep a lid on a Brian Noble connection with the position, however Loan signings Griffin - & the Howarth- Gaskell swap has happened out of the blue.
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| Im still not convinced it Noble, or Noble on his own. It would have been done and dusted by now I think this is a smoke screen and am excited about what is to be announced
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"
Are you joking? Every top team play the same way. All the years St Helen's dominated yes they had long and tommy martyn who were decent with ball in hand, but the rest of the team was huge and used here weight to dominate the opposition pack. Same with Wigan, Leeds and now Warrington, all have big teams who smash through the opposition then when the forwards have done the damage the little guys and BIG centres and wingers run wild.
Look at Huddersfield now there just a carbon copy of the Bulls and it isn't doing them any harm what so ever.
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Dont agree about Saints who have been entertaining for years nor Warrington indeed. Would agree though re Wigan and currently Huddersfield where crowds are now reaching desperation point. See Ken Davys comment on the Giants Supporters site. Maybe they find the Rugby on offer boring. Red League - I have no quarrel with you I just want to be entertained after the Harrison/McRae Driving Class.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"why has Nobby been unemployed for nigh on 3 years?
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Could also add to that - Why,when Lenagan left London to return to his home club of Wigan,did he assess and decide to approach Kearney and then Maguire to takeover ?
Why,last year,when the man who introduced the Dr to rugby league,Eamonn McManus,sacked Royce Simmons very early into the season - 7 games -did he not approach the avaiable Brian Noble but decided instead to wait for the contracted Nathan Brown ?
Why,when Noble was a consultant at Halifax,where they wanted to improve defensively,did they not show any measureable improvement ?
If Brian Noble got the job of head coach at London,does anyone think that their attendances would show a huge rise ?
Maybe the view of supporters of other clubs may be more insightful and raise spirits.
As the job didn't seem to be advertised the applicants may have been limited.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Dont agree about Saints who have been entertaining for years nor Warrington indeed. Would agree though re Wigan and currently Huddersfield where crowds are now reaching desperation point. See Ken Davys comment on the Giants Supporters site. Maybe they find the Rugby on offer boring. Red League - I have no quarrel with you I just want to be :ug0xskb4entertained:ug0xskb4 :ug0xskb4after the Harrison/McRae Driving Class.[
So you did not go home after the season we got into the play offs being entertained? I know myself in that season, nails were down to the bone. Can't remember of the top of me head but we have a vast majority of fixtures going down to the final hooter and I think we won more than we lost of the "nail biting" fixtures.
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| FFS we have not appointed anyone yet. If it's Noble I'd like to think that we'd all get behind him to see what he can do. There's a time and place to discuss whether someone is up to the job and I'm pretty sure it's not before he's actually been employed to do that job. Opinions of fans are just that. Opinions. If you go around just these forums on RLFans you'd get a totally different view on the matter from different fans. Are they right? Are they wrong?
Neither.
You can only judge someone on the results they've had in the job they are doing. Not the job they've done in the past. Can we all calm down a bit and just be glad that we are able to attract big names to the position considering we thought our Club wouldn't exist at the end of last year.
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