Rumours rife they have been told to prepare for Superleague next year. Who's for the chop then? Bradford or ourselves!

read a few things today. 1 is that bradford are telling fans there is another club in dire straits finance wise, but not admitting it (could be us?)

John wilk apparently said on radio that reports we pay 375k per year on stadium are rubbish and we pay 1 pound peppercorn rent per year. He quoted saying "375k is rubbish, I don't know who has made that figure up. We pay 1 pound peppercorn rent and a service charge to council"

SURELY we pay more than a pound else wouldnt we be able to spend more on squad? plus would sale really move in and pay more? Plus didnt we recently halve the rent to help our costs? Something fishy going on im sure at the moment

Bradford may go bump but they'll not get kicked out that's for sure. Many other teams would but by buying the stadium the RFL tipped it's hand on how they would react.

Doubt it would be us either, we from what I see can't be close to going bust if we paid of a tax bill only a couple or so months ago. Granted I think moneys very tight but I can't see it being that bad that we are close to going under. For one can't see either the council, Peel or the stadium company sitting back and watching it happen even with Sale now on board.

the peppercorn rent is for the land, the rent/service charge to the council is something else and it is a lot less than people keep going on about, Sale are paying a lot more than us and it did cut what we were paying.

Another MR post based on wild speculation with little recourse to reality. I'm no city slicker but I'm fairly sure companies on a reasonably sound financial footing don't wait until winding up petitions have been issued to pay their tax bill.

If we're paying peppercorn rent like Wilky has been suggesting why is he also saying we need 8,000 per game plus 500 execs?

His statement goes against the grain of everything we've heard about the statement and is confusing to say the least.

Another Walshovski reply based on dislike (do try to be subjective) but I digress.

Many companies play a game of chicken with their taxes by waiting till the very last minute to pay, I'm willing to bet it's not the first time it has happened at the club and unless the mysterious sugar daddy appears I doubt it will be the last and most certainly we wont be the only RL team to use this tactic.

There has been a 'tweet' today about Halifax being top of the Championship - in semi-final of the NRC - and had made a 20k profit.
If Widnes were under-prepared for Super League I would think the same applies to 'Fax.
But this is rugby league...


It was on Gareth Walker's twitter.( twitter.com/garethwalker13 )

There is waiting for the reminder letter to come in before paying and then there is waiting until hours before your company is liquidated to pay. The latter would suggest we are far from being in rude financial health.

I think you meant 'do try to be [uobjective[/u' when posting, but feel free to continue being subjective if you want.

JW: makes life hard being a Salford fan, for god sake Salford show some balls, you encourage the rummer mill & create uncertainty!
Come on Salford kill the rummer's for once, it not fair on loyal fans who continually defend the clubs good name, we deserve better?

I never said or implied we were in rude financial health, but I doubt were on the brink of oblivion either. Think the important thing is it was paid and cleared.

I did indeed mean objective but the spell check changes what I know I mean to what it thinks I mean.

Regardless of our mutual dislike of each other do you honestly feel that the club will be cut from SL? I very much doubt it, if the club were in that serious trouble pretty sure after what happen in Wrecsam there will be much tighter controls in place, meaning they would step in before it got to that stage and try to assist as they did with Bradford and the purchase of the stadium.

This would be to cover said stadium rent/service charge and pay the full salary cap, but the land is a seperate deal at £1 per year peppercorn rent this was mentioned in the original stadium plans from about 10 years ago.

Big Pev, i remember the story about the land ten years ago (ish). What I dont understand is why wilkys mentioned it cos surely it doesnt mean anything any more. We dont own the stadium, and so why would we rent the land it is built on?

Also, you seem to know more than most about the cost we are paying, is it less that our costs at the willows do you think? i.e. is it a good deal? and if Sale are paying more is that because they will have prime tenancy or is that again another rumour?

The land is all the land from the road to the canal and is quite a few acres so when stuff is built on it we can get some revenue from ground rent etc, I don't know how much the willows cost to run, rates, water rates but not rent. I believe the club have a very good deal and as for Sale that is just business, like lots of different businesses pay different rents in the same building for similar areas, prime tenancy a yawnian feature.

That bloody spell checkers got a mind of it's own.

Check again, Welsh spelling

Even better it speaks Welsh for one word. I want one.

Na Welsh family mate.

Actually sadly not as my Gran passed last week.

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Should Bradford go into liquidation is it the case that all the opposition sides that took points in their games against them lose those points ?
I seem to recall this happening in non-league soccer a couple of years ago.
If it remains at administration then only Bradford lose the points,obviously.
The RFL setting a precedent is a bit of a lottery if the cup-tied Thackeray for Hull FC is anything to go by.

I've had a gander through the RFL's operational rules and can't find anything on insolvency, plenty of stuff on HMRC payments though.

In the soccer it was Chester who were liquidated and had their results expunged.
Vaughan was the guy in charge - the same one who caused Widnes their financial problems.
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Do you mean that all points Bradford have gained this year will be returned to the opposition??

I hope this isnt the case, as Bradford have beaten all the teams scrapping around us in the league and we would only stand to gain a point from it.