Feel sorry for the guy. Dropped last week after winning the MoM against Catalans. Today sitting on the bench for 50 MINUTES whilst the Wildcats ran up 32 points.

Now, just pause for a moment and just put yourself in his shoes having watched mistake after mistake from our loan players and our expensive and over rated Australian imports not to mention our English players with about 10% of his ability.

SM brings him on as Alker is legless after 50 minutes & then causes the Cats problems and his awareness snuffs out many half breaks with great tackles on such as Obst who was a thorn in our side all afternoon.

Personally feel that we will lose him and quite honestly we deserve to do so. SM seems to have a problem having players with ability and awareness - I don`t.

Totally agree showed the heart and desire i thought quite a few of our players lacked today

Wonder if he knows any more "hilarious" Facebook jokes?

He wouldn't even get on the Wakey bench, but you are right that Salford were considerably better with him on.

we will have him please

He deserved to be dropped after a number of poor performances.
Delighted to welcome him back as his form has improved.
Original decision to drop him,for the only game we actually won,was correct !

Well on that principle most of the team should be dropped next week.
I said the Harlequins win was a false dawn as half their team was missing and we still only just beat them.
Kick start the season my ar$e.
The only kicking should be to McRae out of the club.

Difference is we had a class player ready to play stand off instead of him.
Ratchford is a good player and will improve but ,on his form,he did deserve to be dropped.
As for the rest...........................

sorry not a world class stand off to replace him a loose forward mascerading as a stand off-Ratch is the only player we have capable of making a break.

Actually Holdsworth's position of choice is stand off not loose forward. oh, and it didnt say world class, it just said class.

Youve not been watching the same games as me Bonita. Ratch was made the scapegoat last season and nearly played in every position bar prop. If you cannot see his talent ahead of all our loanees then.................. SM - for some reason - is the ony one (no - maybe yourself as well) not to see that he has TIME & awareness which is the key to all players with talent.

The other financial point to make is that players are hidden assets i.e Myler etc - Loanees are not - so lets hope we see a bit of commonsense soon.

Obviously just based on the game at BV - I thought that Ratchford was class when he came on, kept us guessing and set up a few decent attacks - also your man Jewitt had a cracker considering the rest of the pack was getting bullied off the park for a lot of it.

Also was chatting to Talau on the terraces during the second half - was asking about our season and how our new guys were settling in, all that kind of stuff - proper nice bloke.

Early Bath, SR is a real talent, but what happened last year is irrelevant.
We were losing matches and he was playing badly.
He was dropped,correctly, we won and he has played well on his return.
Plaudits to the coach,please.
Simples.

I would rather Stef played than a Aussie and loan players.
McRae has not a clue, we have talented youngsters who are itching to play but he persists with his loan signings and overrated Aussies.
If we lose SR then it will be totally down to how our coach has treated him.
Plaudits to the coach

you must be taking the pi$$

just so you know back to the 20s this week against hull

So it looks like McRae is trying to get rid of him then, what was the club's policy, young British players, perhaps McRae does not understand the club's policy, or doesn't rate British players just Aussie cast offs. Time to call it a day McRae

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Well thats it then.
If this is true then I refuse to go till that clown leaves.
No doubt he will have Holdsworth and Smith as the half back pairing.
An Oz on a one year contract and a loan player.
Bodes well for the future of the club.
Fook off McRae before we lose all the young talent we do have in the team.

One plus point is that at least in the 20s he will not have to listen or put into practise what our super coach says.
In fact lets get Adamson in there and a few others so they can not be damaged further.

Stefan Ratchford is Saints bound along with Sidlow

LOL Doubt it - we are in a recession and both players under contract and Saints not overflowing with loot.

If SM has dropped him then its a bit like signing his own P45 isnt it? Absolutely crazy decision. Doesnt seem to like him does he? In fact doesnt seem to like anybody who is `stealing the show` from this Media Mogul. Mmm - maybe thats it - Myler last year & Stef this year.

Just as a matter of interest is this a genuine report on the team or not?

If this is serious then Mcrae should be offering the player about if he doesn't like him. At a guess there would be a big line of clubs ready to take him off your hands now and you could get cash and players out of a deal.

I repeat a previous post that Stef is a class player but he needed to be left out of the team,briefly.
The coach was bang on.
McCrae has made loads of mistakes,as we would in his position, but this was not one of them.
Stef was given the 6 shirt .That showed the coach's intent and he retained his place despite several bad performances.
Imports on 12 month contracts are a fact of life,deal with it !!
The alternative is to give them 3 year contracts and if they are no good you are stuck with them.
If Stef is offski because he was rightly dropped then forget a coach,let the players pick the team

EVERTON1 has generally been correct in the past.



And if the above news is correct?

i agree with bonita red on this one. He hasn't been playing that well but by all accounts we seemed to play better with him on the pitch in the second half at wakey, or that could of been down to wakey taking there foot off the gas. Everton1 normally gives correct info as regards team selection in the past but i wonder what mcrae is planning, with J smith being suspended also. Would we be going into the game with a bench full of forwards? We do need more go forward but can alker play a full 80?

Did either Bonita or Jay go to Wakey? If so - and you stand by your statements then you are not wanting to see the same type of RL as I do as I want to see players with ability entertain me. If not - then your comments should be disregarded - as SMc brought him on after 50 mins & then Stef proceeded to create more than Mat & Reg did all afternoon.

With Stef on the field the RL is better but if we want 5 drives and a kick then heh ho let him go. I wont be watching though.

Finally and financially more important - Stef is a contracted player and like Myler a hidden asset. If SMc continues to isolate him the value on Stefs head drops and the Balance Sheet is further weakened.