Sorry 'HBR', but are you saying that basically, our fragile defensive lapses are solely due to our problematic concoction issue at Hooker? I totally disagree, If you review the fixtures we've played this season with the exception of Castleford last week you'd see that the Hooking role wasn't the key indicator for these defensive lapses.

Hull Away - Lee, Tomkins.= 42 points
St Helens Home - Lee Tomkins = 10 points
Widnes Home - Lee, Tomkins = 20 points
Wigan Away. Lee, Tomkins, = 20 points
Warrington Home - Lee, Tomkins = 31 points
Castleford Away = Lee, Tomkins = 16 points
Hull KR Away - Lee, Tomkins = 42 points
Catalans Home - Tomkins, Joseph = 26 points
Huddersfield Away - Tomkins, Wood = 24 points
Wakefield Away - Tomkins, Wood = 32 points
Leeds Home - Tomkins, Wood = 10 points
Hunslet Away - Wood, = 14 points
Catalans Away - Tomkins, Wood = 42 points
Hull KR Home - Lee, Tomkins = 26 points
Castleford Away - Joseph = 32 points

Overall points against this season so far = 391 points averaging 26 points per game
Average points against with Lee and Tomkins playing = 207 points = Averaging 25.87 points per game.
Average points with 1 x Recognized Hooker in Tomkins = 134 points. = Averaging 26.8 points per game
Average points without any recognized Hookers = 46 points which = Averaging 23 points per game.
So your absent Hooker theory doesn't comply with the defensive statistics HBR. It's a collective defense issue.

The Squads have been named I can see the line-up looking a bit like this.

1. Jonny Lomax, 22. Jack Owens. 21. Matty Dawson. 4. Mark Percival, 5. Adam Swift, 19. Theo Fages.
7. Luke Walsh, 8. Alex Walmsley, 9. James Roby, 10. Kyle Amor, 11. Atelea Vea, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Subs. 14. Lama Tasi, 15. Greg Richards, 16. Andre Savelio, 18. Dominque Peyroux, 27. Jack Ashworth, 28. Morgan Knowles.


14. Gareth O'Brien, 2. Justin Carney, 4. Junior Sa'u, 33. Josh Jones. 5. Daniel Vidot, 6. Robert Lui, 7. Michael Dobson, 8. Craig Kopczak, 19. Logan Tomkins. 10. George Griffin, 11. Ben Murdoch-Masila, 12. Weller Hauraki, 13. Mark Flanagan, Subs. 1. Niall Evalds. 21. Ryan Lannon. 15. Adam Walne, 17. Phil Joseph. 16. Olsi Krasniqi
20. Jordan Walne,

Ah, Fages is playing there's a big chance we could win this.

correct (I'm even harder to please)
but let's have others joining in

For the first time I'm driving to Langtree Park from Preston and wondering can anyone recommend a good place to park?

So am I! Chalons St car park from Saints forum, 10 min walk, open until 11.00 & £1.

Sounds good to me, cheers mate.