Chalmers was at the Widnes game.

You do realise he played for us on two separate occasions...?

Yes 87/88 93/94 anyway that's not my point, he still had coaching in mind when opting to sign for Salford he could of played for anyone else just as a player but he was a player coach with us.

...and it was the 87/88 occasion I was referring to, to illustrate the point that Wilkinson didn't always bring in average players, which was your original point wasn't it? I admire the way that you conveniently ignore his first stint with the club just to make it fit with your version of events. Make no mistake, Jack's original signing was a massive coup for the club when it happened, probably bigger than any signing we've made just recently, in fact, only the signing of SBW (had we pulled it off) would have eclipsed it, IMHO.

Oh and just for the record he was not a player coach in his first stint with the club, he was just a player.

Red League - put this on a `post it` and leave on your Computer :-

`Without John Wilkinson Salford would never have seen Marwan Koukash`.

Why would he have needed to sign for another club in Australia? He came over to play in England in the Australian off-season in the middle of his 13 year stint with Balmain and went on to play many more FULL seasons with them. He wouldn't start his coaching career for another 6 years (as Stouffer correctly pointed out).

Anyone who knows me will tell you that I'm not the type to just blindly praise Wilky, however, to suggest that the signing of Garry Jack was anything but bold, ambitious and pricey is churlish in my opinion.