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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Not at all
Jamie Lyon was superb.
And I think Joel Monaghan should go well too.
but as for the rest......
What so many people can't seem to realise is this.
[uAUSSIE PLAYERS DONT COME HERE UNLESS THEY HAVE TO.[/u
I'm sorry...but thats a fact.
9 times out of 10 Aussie players come here from the NRL if they have been awarded the *DCM from their own clubs back home.
*Dont Come Monday.
This can be for a variety of reasons...age, quality and poor health top the list.
I can't see how anyone could disagree with that.
Its like owning a Porsche. Great cars. Look fantastic, drive even better. A real performance machine.
But like all things in this life they start to go wrong. They are expensive to repair. You fix it up because you love it. But bits break. That car ends up costing you a motza in repairs.
So what do you do with it?
You sell it to some bloke who is impressed by the name but ultimately doesnt know what he is looking for.
There we have it folks. Thats why you get so many of our players that cant cut life in the NRL any more.'"
Like orford, hicks, tandy, whatuira, walker, faoso(sp), riddell? to use your analogy it looks like we are selling the porsche back with a few more miles on the clock
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| Quote ="pyeman"Like orford, hicks, tandy, whatuira, walker, faoso(sp), riddell? to use your analogy it looks like we are selling the porsche back with a few more miles on the clock
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I can only assume we want them for their scrap value!
Piggy Riddell must be worth at least $18,000 if you go by weighbridge values...
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| The fact that someone like Tandy can walk straight back into an NRL first team line up tells you:
A) The NRL stocks are as low as ours
B) They are decent players who come to SL
C) The jnr development programs in Oz are struggling and the Toyota cup hasn't done what they hoped it would.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"The fact that someone like Tandy can walk straight back into an NRL first team line up tells you:
A) The NRL stocks are as low as ours
B) They are decent players who come to SL
C) The jnr development programs in Oz are struggling and the Toyota cup hasn't done what they hoped it would.'"
And how do u know A And C?
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| because Tandy can get a starting team position! If there were quality young props being developed then a plodder like Tandy would be at best in a NSW cup side.
There has been much discussion about wether the Toyota cup is succeding in producing 1st grade ready players , especially in the forwards.
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"icon_lol.gif
I can only assume we want them for their scrap value!
Piggy Riddell must be worth at least $18,000 if you go by weighbridge values...'"
You know every once in a while you can be really funny baz
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"There has been much discussion about wether the Toyota cup is succeding in producing 1st grade ready players , especially in the forwards.'"
I read somewhere that 65% of the Toyota Cup players were Kiwi qualified........if this is correct then it would point to a lack of Australian talent coming through.
I blame HKA myself
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| 9 more posts and it gets locked
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| Quote ="Starbug"9 more posts and it gets locked
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that's one less post than HKA have foreign players
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That's two less....
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| how can you lock an epic thread such as this? there is still 3 months of pre season to go!
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| Dont lock it yet........ there is a very real likelihood my flight outta here is going to be cancelled tomorrow because of the snow and I might need something to keep me amused when I'm sleeping on the floor at Heathrow T3...
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Dont lock it yet........ there is a very real likelihood my flight outta here is going to be cancelled tomorrow because of the snow and I might need something to keep me amused when I'm sleeping on the floor at Heathrow T3...'"
don't worry bazza....pi55ing rain all over the poison rock at the moment....you're not missing much
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| Well I'd kick Quins out on principle.
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| Quote ="Roofs"Well I'd kick Quins out on principle.
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Serious question.
If Quins were kicked out...would anyone really notice?
No one goes along to watch...so the fans wouldnt notice.
So you only have Quins 17 players...who could just join the Skolars.
Just give all the other clubs the 4 points they would have got anyway from playing Quins twice a season, close the moon down and build a Walkabout on the vacant plot
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"build a Walkabout on the vacant plot'" ....I think the rahrahs would have an issue with that masterplan bazza....
1 to go
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"build a Walkabout on the vacant plot'" ....I think the rahrahs would have an issue with that masterplan bazza....
1 to go'"
I was thinking maybe they could relocate to 'HQ'???
They seem to have quite a few supporters?
1 to go... fingers crossed....
I'm praying to the god of Paul Gallen that tomorrow evenings flights are not cancelled...
'Oh Gallen
Who art in the Nulla
Legend be thy name
Please maketh Qantas depart on schedule
Amen'
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| Quote ="Roofs"Well I'd kick Quins out on principle.
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What principle? The principle that anything south of Humberside is of no consequence?
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Quote ="Roofs"Well I'd kick Quins out on principle.
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What principle? The principle that anything south of Humberside is of no consequence?'"
The word 'Humberside' should get us another 500 posts, by itself. Ginnel/Tenfoot, season pass or season ticket and barm/bap/roll/teacake would see us to 2k.
For the record, I'm not anti-Quins. Though I reserve the right to change my mind if our license is looking shaky in 2015.
We do need to start producing players for ourselves. I hope we can do it like Saints and Leeds rather than Cas or Quins, though - by which I mean [iwe[/i see the benefits at Craven Park.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Quote ="Asgardian13"Quote ="Roofs"Well I'd kick Quins out on principle.
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What principle? The principle that anything south of Humberside is of no consequence?'"
The word 'Humberside' should get us another 500 posts, by itself. Ginnel/Tenfoot, season pass or season ticket and barm/bap/roll/teacake would see us to 2k.
For the record, I'm not anti-Quins. Though I reserve the right to change my mind if our license is looking shaky in 2015.
We do need to start producing players for ourselves. I hope we can do it like Saints and Leeds rather than Cas or Quins, though - by which I mean [iwe[/i see the benefits at Craven Park.'"
good point.
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| we have until 2013. Then the NRL gets a serious salary cap and with tax loopholes and the pound in the drain plus two new teams to fill no Aussies are going to be coming to the SL to play.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"we have until 2013. Then the NRL gets a serious salary cap and with tax loopholes and the pound in the drain plus two new teams to fill no Aussies are going to be coming to the SL to play.'"
I reckon the new Queensland side will go well but I'm not sure about the Central Coast bears JB...
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"we have until 2013. Then the NRL gets a serious salary cap and with tax loopholes and the pound in the drain plus two new teams to fill no Aussies are going to be coming to the SL to play.'"
More Brits going out there too. Economics is going to make the quota increasingly irrelevant, it would seem.
More UK players in the NRL and (even a diminished) SL will be good for the England team. Personally I think SL will be fine - we're 2nd now, we'll just be a more distant 2nd. People want to see competitive, entertaining games and if we can retain that despite losing quality it'll be fine, IMO.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Quote ="JB Down Under"we have until 2013. Then the NRL gets a serious salary cap and with tax loopholes and the pound in the drain plus two new teams to fill no Aussies are going to be coming to the SL to play.'"
[uMore Brits going out there too.[/u Economics is going to make the quota increasingly irrelevant, it would seem.
More UK players in the NRL and (even a diminished) SL will be good for the England team. Personally I think SL will be fine - we're 2nd now, we'll just be a more distant 2nd. People want to see competitive, entertaining games and if we can retain that despite losing quality it'll be fine, IMO.'"
Lets hope this won't be the case
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I reckon the new Queensland side will go well but I'm not sure about the Central Coast bears JB...'"
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