The only Warrington players that get in the Saints team and improve it are Charnley and Austin. Daryl Clark is obviously an excellent player but I’d rather have Roby.

I agree with you. If we finish 8th then for me its an improvement. I think anything above 8th would be an excellent season but looking at other squads the odds aren't in our favour.

I think Salford will be lucky to see the season out ....

The same could be said about you when DG comes back from his winter break

Copy and paste job from your prediction every year Jean/keV/LeBron

There is absolutely no comparison between the 2 packs.

When you have a 19 year kid who goes to PNG and smashes their forwards all over Port Moresby earning player of the series and he can’t get in your side, you know your pack is just gonna steam roller the rest of SL

Until it’s a semi final and they go to pieces

Who dat?

He’ll be referring to Matty Lees but I didn’t see him smash anyone in port moseby

Quote ="TheDreadnought"He’ll be referring to Matty Lees but I didn’t see him smash anyone in port moseby'" It's a shame he couldn't get into the semi final team against warrington, maybe he wouldnt have gone to pieces. Coff coff https://warringtonwolves.com/the-wire-a ... and-final/

Quote ="TheDreadnought"He’ll be referring to Matty Lees but I didn’t see him smash anyone in port moseby'" It's a shame he couldn't get into the semi final team against warrington, maybe he wouldnt have gone to pieces. Coff coff https://warringtonwolves.com/the-wire-a ... and-final/

Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"It's a shame he couldn't get into the semi final team against warrington, maybe he wouldnt have gone to pieces. Coff coff https://warringtonwolves.com/the-wire-a ... and-final/'" Bringing up a semi final win that led to another Grand Final defeat 3 months on is the most Warrington thing ever.

Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"It's a shame he couldn't get into the semi final team against warrington, maybe he wouldnt have gone to pieces. Coff coff https://warringtonwolves.com/the-wire-a ... and-final/'" Bringing up a semi final win that led to another Grand Final defeat 3 months on is the most Warrington thing ever.

Player of the series. When the more established english players were intimidated by the surroundings and the PNG team, Lees basically took them on by himself. Thats why he was awarded player of the series

"Lees basically took them on by himself" What did the other 16 lads do during the games then?

Small minded opinion to be honest, open your eyes and watch the game, troll.

Lebron brought it up, and running your mouth off, then disappearing when things dont go your way is the most saints thing ever, you did it, lebron did it, and since your stopped winning trophies the rest of your forum dwellers have been doing it.

How about you two start showing some humility, and not give ppl the opportunity to RIP the out of you.

LOL

Agree. I'll be the first to admit the lad had a good series and Saints have potentially a good Prop on their hands but there's been some absolute hyperbole talked about his performance tbh. I watched both games and he didn't smash the PNG players and that he took all them all on by himself, he just had a really sold series over the 2 games where others played well in one and were average in the other. He made good meters for England and for his age looks a prospect but there was more to that series than just one player like thar's been made out.

Yeah I actually really rate him and that Thompson at saints but he needs to take that Lees off of the pedestal he’s got him on.

Saints
Hull
Wire
Wigan
Cas
Leeds
Wakey
Catalans
Hudds
Hull KR
Salford
London


Saints will walk it again, I think a lot of people are underestimating Hull based on a season where they were ravaged by injury. If they can get everyone fit and keep them fit, I fancy them to be the shock team this year. Wigan in transition, Wire spending loads of cash but could all flop again, Cas consistent. Next 4 all could finish anywhere between 4 and 9 but don’t think wider squads are good enough with injuries at a couple of them. Wakey probably have the biggest squad in terms of players with SL experience.

Bottom 3 pretty much nailed on IMO.

1. St. Helens.
2. Warrington.
3. Wakefield.
4. Wigan.
5. Catalans.
6. Castleford.
7. Hull.
8. Huddersfield.
9. Leeds.
10. Hull KR.
11. Salford.
12. London.

Right, but you felt the need to link the match report in response to someone else talking about Matty Lees. But bizarre. What an outstanding post, do you remember when Warrington last won a final? (Clue: it was before Saints last won one).

Might be just me but I thought he linked the match report because Lebron said this
meaning that Lees didn't play in the semi and that link posted has him playing. I can't remember the game but a few other sites like the BBC has him in as well.

Unless that's not the point at all.

To answer your question Warrington last won a final in 2012. However to take the mick out of a team that actually manages to reach finals these days seems a bit silly for a Saints fan.

Last 10 seasons

League Leaders:
Saints - 2
Warrington - 2

Cup Wins:
Saints - 0
Warrington - 3

Grand Final Wins:
Saints - 1
Warrington - 0

Total Final Appearances:
Saints - 4
Warrington - 9

Total Trophies:
Saints - 3
Warrington - 5

Saints have only won 1 Final in the last 10 years and they needed to play against 12 men in that one to win it.

And had Ben Flower not had his brain fart then Wigan would’ve won that final comfortably.

Quite damning for Saints as a ‘big club’ that since their last final appearance 7 of 12 SL clubs have reached one of the 2 major finals with Saints being in the same company as Salford, Wakefield, Hudds and London as having not done so.

Yes but were not big clubs, so it's only to be expected

All predictions are fine until injuries determine the actual positions where they will finish. So there.