so,what happens to the gate receipts ?

How do you think the RFL heirarchy pay for their hotels and meals and flights etc. I am sure the clubs are reimbursed their general expenses though

They partly service £700k 'investments' in Crusaders.



Seriously, I assume they go to the RFL to pay for the stadium hire and contribute to their fund to fund the game. Same as the GF and CC Finals, once they have dished out the prize money.

Or they could make up the numbers by bringing in the winners of the Championship Grand Final.

Well that'll help , have a random draw , so some clubs might get a derby , some won't , the attendance at MM is lower as a result , but the RFL give the SL clubs some more money

That sounds like a good plan

Wakey look in trouble and the RFL couldn't be happier.

What use are 2 SL points to Championship club ?

Unfortunately that won't be far from the truth. If Wakey enter admin they can pads Crusaders under the carpet, yet if not big questions come franchise time... Again!

It would effectively be a 'friendly' fixture, counting as a bye for the SL club - which would be necessary with an odd number of clubs.

You can't have an odd number of games with an odd number of teams in the league. It physically doesn't fit.

You can have an even number of teams with an odd number of games (like we have now), or an odd number of teams with an even number of games (like the NRL had), but if you have the latter you can't have a MM event because it would mean some clubs would have one less home game (and I don't care what anyone says about alternative methods for this result, the clubs WILL NOT go for that!).

An odd number of teams with the Magic Weekend simply isn't an option.

I keep telling them but they wont listen

yes,obviously but you could have an odd number of teams (say 15) with MM if the RL drew lots for seven games and the team to miss out automatically gets gifted two points for a win - not a brilliant solution but a way round a problem - but in practical terms a no-no

"Giving" a team two points is not a solution at all.

Thought there was discussion about Magic fixtures including World Club Challenge as well...

Only on these boards afaik. With the same problem pointed out every time.

Im sure the addition of the WCC would more than make up for the move from derbies to other games.

Anything could happen now,

In the High Court of Justice (Chancery Division)
Companies Court No 9875 of 2010
In the Matter of WAKEFIELD TRINITY RUGBY LEAGUE
FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED
(Company Number 02623391)
and in the Matter of the Insolvency Act 1986
A Petition to wind up the above-named Company, Registration
Number 02623391, of Belle Vue, Doncaster Road, Wakefield, West
Yorkshire WF1 5HT, presented on 2 December 2010 by the
Commissioners for HM Revenue and Customs, of Bush House, Strand,
London WC2B 4RD, claiming to be Creditors of the Company, will
be heard at the Royal Courts of Justice, Strand, London WC2A 2LL,
on 2 February 2011, at 1030 hours (or as soon thereafter as the Petition
can be heard).
Any persons intending to appear on the hearing of the Petition
(whether to support or oppose it) must give notice of intention to do
so to the Petitioners or to their Solicitor in accordance with Rule 4.16
by 1600 hours on 1 February 2011.
The Petitioners’ Solicitor is the Solicitor to HM Revenue and Customs,
Solicitor’s Office, South West Wing, Bush House, Strand, London
WC2B 4RD, telephone 020 7438 4205. (Ref SLR 1040661/37.)
20 January 2011. (1285154)

Didnt the RFL suspend something with Batley because of non payment to the HRMC ?

what jurisdiction do the rfl have ove clubs belonging to SLE ?.

Full Juristiction if the said club(s) want to be part of the sport.......doesn't matter who owns them...clubs have to tow the line and obey whatever rules the RFL have in place that week.
News International are part of the TV consortium that pay to show the NRL.......Melborne storm thought they were invincible....they weren't!

i'd like to think your right,but i dont.

i buy programmes,i buy the LE,i see info from other outlets and everything point to one thing and that is..the rfl are an information gathering organisation.
when they've gathered that info they then pass it bacck to the chairmen of the clubs in SLE and then they make the decisions.
thats how it looks to me.

....there was a meeting in 2005 where Mr lewis made it clear to the SL Chairmen what would happen if London were not immediately voted back into SL after our run in with the Tax man....we were voted back in. This would point to the RFL running the game and having power over the ESL Chairmen that they can wield if they need to.
...as for your choice of reading material....even though I only started watching league in 2002....I quickly learnt that the RL press is more like reading the beano....except the beano has less made up stories in it



If you are looking for the true source of ultimate power in English RL.....I suggest you look towards Brentford Middlesex.....the home of SKY TV.

SKY TV are the crack cocaine of English RL.......once hooked, it is often very painful and very difficult to kick the habit and 1,2 million each a year is a hell of a habit!

Why would we want to do that? Fund a weekend away to get smashed by a team with 5 times or more the salary cap of ours and risk injuries!!! Ridiculous.

Super league doesnt want us any other time so why should we help them out now?

www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011/01/hmrc-update/ Quote As previously reported Wakefield Trinity Wildcats have been issued with a winding up petition by Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs. The club confirmed in a statement: “The club owes National Insurance and VAT from recent months and these figures have been included in a petition which will be heard at the High Court on 2nd February. We have been in dialogue with HMRC for a number of weeks and are disappointed that this petition has been served as we were hopeful of reaching a payment plan with them.” No further statement will be issued on this matter.'" This is a new debt not the HMRC tearing up the previous agreement based on Crusaders.

www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011/01/hmrc-update/ Quote As previously reported Wakefield Trinity Wildcats have been issued with a winding up petition by Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs. The club confirmed in a statement: “The club owes National Insurance and VAT from recent months and these figures have been included in a petition which will be heard at the High Court on 2nd February. We have been in dialogue with HMRC for a number of weeks and are disappointed that this petition has been served as we were hopeful of reaching a payment plan with them.” No further statement will be issued on this matter.'" This is a new debt not the HMRC tearing up the previous agreement based on Crusaders.

- so the club went from escaping one winding up petition, courtesy of a third party, Sir Rodney Walker, paying their tax bill (though this has since turned out to have been a loan), and carried on pocketing the national insurance and VAT it collected on behalf of the tax man (ok, some of the NI is almost certainly their employers' contributions, not just the employees' contributions collected by the club

I think he meant for the full season!