Oh dear, that statement almost makes it sound as if Bradford/Moore/whoever else is involved in this farce were banking on their good mates at Red Hall to do them yet another favour, but cos the RFL have had to be seen to be doing something this time they have spit the dummy out big time.....i hope to god the RFL don't go running after them to appease them.

Would it be better to relegate them now so they can start afresh rather than let this drag on for another 9/12 months ?

Where does this leave the Bulls now? Still in admin I suppose.
Who will buy a club that are quite likely to be relegated and are still losing money hand over fist and relegation is only going to make that worse. Bad times

you want to relegate them into a league which as already started?

Given that they have been placed in special measures by the RFL, will they still get any parachute payments?

Maybe the club would have been better not releasing statement saying that they wouldn't get points deduction forcing the RFL's hand otherwise.

Classic

Again, I don't blame them for walking away (the manner of which it has happened has irked me but they can do as they wish)

You can say that this deduction made them rethink. But they knew it was a possibility already. It's like buying an old car, you know your probably going to have to repair it 300 times, but it's the risk you take. if they wanted to buy a club with no risk of points deduction, then don't buy from an administrators. It's as simple as that.

Also, the rfl haven't damaged your reputation. Bradford did that all by themselves. The rfl gave deemed that's given you've gone bust twice in as many years, extra limitations are needed to make sure it doesn't happen again. If you want them to trust you, stop going bust.

It's like Greece complaining about austerity measures when they got bailed out.

Exactly, thats not feasable.
Theres nothing to say Bradford wont get another 4 more points than Wakey over the next 25 games, its far from over for them.

A very sad situation. I don't believe the penalty is correct but that's an irrelevance now.

The preferred bidders have not covered themselves in glory, but what does it say about the Administrator I wonder. Surely he should have found out their plans if a penalty was imposed?

The directors should have used this to rally players and supporters, they have about a 22% chance of staying up as things stand, if they fall apart they are doomed.

Here we go again. So, if the administrator is in charge again are we having the coaching staff made redundant again? So thats 10 or so people about to lose their jobs.

Have the RFL guaranteed players wages again?
If not, then the administrator will have to decide if the players can be paid. Worse case scenario, 25 full time players and 40 juniors will lose their jobs.

18months ago there was the back up plan of SL(europe) taking control of the club. Is that the RFL's agenda again?

No problem with points deduction and disappointed twice left as thy must have known the points deduction was coming. Looking like my club could now be liquidated. What will happen to MM? Surely this just be scrapped if bulls liquidated.

Fell the statemet it sounds like the meeting the RFL chaired to get te deal down was very unprofessionally handles and admin could have been avoided.

good question i suppose, even without though the moneys still pretty good at the top of the championship next year and as long as the supporters stick by the club they'll be getting the highest gates in the championship.

But that’s what they done, they have decided not to buy the club because of the points deduction, they were willing to take the risk without the points deduction, not willing with it. They have some complaints about the process.

The new owners haven’t gone bust, they never did. Someone else did. The new owners aren’t willing to take that hit for someone elses actions.

The worst way to ensure the Bulls don’t go bust again is to reduce their TV money and pretty much guarantee them relegation.

I don’t see why the RFL shouldn’t take responsibility for making the Bulls so unattractive a proposition that someone willing to buy them no longer is and im not sure why that person owes it to the RFL to keep their unhappiness secret.

But they also have huge overheads.

Who opens the stadium sunday? Who pays the catering staff? the stewards? The groundstaff?

Invite Fax or Fev

Really? Might as well give Hudds 2 points. Why would fax or Fev want to come up jut to get battered and be sent down. They might as well stay where they are and build or the "revoultionaty new chapter in RL history"

How would the RFL decide who comes up? Surely it would be the current champions Sheffield.

Then if you just relegate the bulls as some way, what about the 25 squad players who no longer have a wage? The junior deopment potentially lost to the game?

I hope someone buys us otherwise it's curtains.

So what your saying is, if they got it cheap from the administrators, and given all they could to make sure they kept the bright lights (and financial income) of super league then it was a deal, otherwise they weren't interested - if I could have the guaranteed payments like those mentioned for superleague clubs I'd be interested too. The reality is club ownership is nothing but an expensive hobby, and Moore hasn't seemed willing to pay (and in fact is the second time they've walked out)

We've done the reduced tv money thing to death, it was agreed to by bulls (whatever iteration it was) and mark Moore was aware of it coming into the club. Nothing has been sprung on him today, like he claims.

Yes we can argue the semantics of the phrase "the bulls went bust" and how it wasn't the new owners etc but it's the same with everyone in every sport - pick up the club cheap, you have to tidy up the previous owners mess. And that includes sanctions from the governing body. - whoever bought rangers for a pound, got a great deal, the flip side, they have to start in division 3 - it's the way it works. And mark Moore knew this.

Nobody but mark Moore forced him out of the club. I can kick and scream the rfl should make it so teams located within st.helens local area gets a 20 lead at the start of every match - and I won't go to a game or spend a penny in rugby league until otherwise - does that mean the rfl should give into my demands? Else the sport is "unattractive" to me

This thread could now last for another ninety pages & I was hoping it would be done & dusted by now. But then what do you expect with the quality of employees at Red Hall.

So will a White Night ride in at the eleventh hour, maybe the RFL will steer the ship or perhaps everything goes pop & Bradford are removed from the league, their results expunged & the Magic Weekend sacked off.

Lions led by Donkeys.

Ha ha ha ha!! You massive bellend.

Well done to the RFL for enforcing the correct punishment.

All to easy for these jokers masquerading as owners to try and pass the buck onto the RFL.

They go down, start again, come back stronger. Man up Smokey you pathetic individual.

strangely not many people seem to be willing to get even as far as Moore and co did.


he explains exactly what was sprung and how in the statement.


yep, a great deal, thats why Rangers have had to spend the last few months on the brink of another administration and recently needed to borrow another £1.5m from a director just to keep going.

Moore didnt pick up the club on the cheap because it was in Admin, he picked it up on the cheap because there wasnt that much of a business to buy. The fact the administrator hasnt been flooded with offers kind of disproves your point that this is a great deal.
if the sport is unattractive to you because of that then fine, thats a very personal standpoint. The fact the Bulls are unttractive to anyone isnt a personal standpoint, the fact they were attractive to someone but the RFL;s actions have changed that, is down to the RFL. If the bulls and the wider game come out of this better because of what the RFL have done then the RFL should be praised for their actions.

If however the we are left with a mess of a season this year, the liquidation of the bulls and the loss of Pro RL at one of our strongest areas, and the Bulls and wider game arent in a better position then the RFL take responsibility for that too.