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| Quote ="Saddened!"It depends what level you consider. If you say for example virtually every country in the world has bicycles, so all forms of cycling is fine. But if you say it's only countries with regulation cycling tracks, bikes and timing systems, you'd be short I reckon.
Take Union for example, there is no way it's played to any decent level in any more than 20 countries. How they get 75 I'll never know.'"
The Olympics is about taking part......regardless of the standard of the participants.
Union which BTW I tried to avoid discussing by mentioning THIS OLYMPICS, ranks 96 international teams in the 15 man game....the majority of these teams are made up of amateurs/ex pats, but the FACT remains that the game is played and the countries are ranked. Here are some of the international matches planned for the next 12 months in the international game......it is an active sport in the eyes of the IOC.
[urlhttp://www.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/match/fixtures/international.html[/url
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| Is there anything to say League players can't be selected for the 7's?
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Is there anything to say League players can't be selected for the 7's?'"
I don't think so, but can you see Super League/ NRL clubs releasing players for the Olympics when it comes to the business end of the season?
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| Quote ="Goochie"I don't think so, but can you see Super League/ NRL clubs releasing players for the Olympics when it comes to the business end of the season?'"
No I can't but there's obviously no need for 2 codes of a rugby format at the olympics
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| Could use a similar concept as swimming and have League 9's and 13's, Yawnion 7's and 15's and every possible combination including the 7/9/13/15 Medley
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| Quote ="Big Ask"Could use a similar concept as swimming and have League 9's and 13's, Yawnion 7's and 15's and every possible combination including the 7/9/13/15 Medley'"
Probably 25 to 30 medals available and after no more than 2 Olympics we could herald Sam Thomkins and the Greatest Olympian.......
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| Was thinking about this the other day. I've hated the idea every time I've seen anything written about it, but perhaps a "hybrid" 9s tournament could work for the Olympics, to showcase the best players from both codes. For any form of RL to be in the Olympics though the main sticking point would definitely be that neither the NRL or the SL would want their top stars released in the middle of the season.
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| Going off the medals Australia have won, I am suprised they are not championing this already......
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| Personally I agree with the other posters and the Olympics should not have football, tennis, golf (which will be at Rio), Rugby etc.
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| Quote ="Big Ask"Personally I agree with the other posters and the Olympics should not have football, tennis, golf (which will be at Rio), Rugby etc.'"
Completely agree. I had no interest in the football at all. IMO it's not an Olympic sport if a gold medal isn't the absolute pinnacle that everyone is striving towards. Football, tennis, golf and rugby in particular all would have 4 or 5 trophies that people would consider more important than an Olympic medal.
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| golf? at the olympics? really?
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| Until we make rl 9's a regular competition at club and int level it does not deserve to be in Olympics. Would love to see more club and world 9's comps played. We should have a world 9's ever February played in Oz and an invitational 9's during the season.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"No I can't but there's obviously no need for 2 codes of a rugby format at the olympics'"
They are different sports that share the same shaped ball and part name. Should football and Gaelic football have a merged sport at the Olympics? If they can have beach volleyball and normal volleyball no reason you can't have two codes of rugby.
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| GOLF!!!! FFS. I only watch the athletics, the rest can go hang for me.
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| Quote ="jarvis12345"With the introduction of golf and union 7s at the next Olympics should the RLIF push for RL whether 9s or 13 a side to be at the Olympics?
Surely it would increase participation numbers and SL attendances if we did well in it. It would also be an opportunity to develop the game in new areas!!
International RL isnt a big thing in our sport but if it was part of the Olympics it could be great!
I understand its right in the middle of the SL and NRL season but for it to be competative in the Olympics GB, NZ and Aus would have to have age restrictions as not to disrupt the league too much.
Thoughts?'"
We could just have CC players in , that would keep the rest of the world out.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"GOLF!!!! FFS. I only watch the athletics, the rest can go hang for me.'"
Whilst not totally agreeing they should be there the best events for me have been:
Canoe Slalom
BMX'ing (Yes I am GenX!)
Archery
Never watched any of them before but seeing as I am laid up following a knee op got to watch more of the Olympics this time than ever before. Some of the other events are actually very entertaining!
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"Completely agree. I had no interest in the football at all. IMO it's not an Olympic sport if a gold medal isn't the absolute pinnacle that everyone is striving towards. Football, tennis, golf and rugby in particular all would have 4 or 5 trophies that people would consider more important than an Olympic medal.'"
Whilst I agree with you on this point, the fact is that football was an Olympic event long before the World Cup came to be. As such it is very much an intergrated part of Olympic history (even if it has long been essentially an expanded U-21 tournament). Although it probably ceased to be the pinnacle achievement within football sometime in the 1950's.
The other sports you mention above though definately have no part in the games in my opinion. But the simply truth is that the IOC want to make the games the number one sporting event on the planet and as such see the inclusion of those sports as being beneficial to raising the profile & standing of the movement (not to mention the level of corporate sponsorship from the really big guns of 21st Century global business).
In much the same way, this line of thinking led to the Olympic movement quitely dropping the amatuer only stance in the 1980's because they realised that a continuation of that rather exclusive ideal would ultimately lead to the Olympic Games becoming a second rate sporting event. Faced with the prospect of hosting an out-dated anachronistic event or adjusting their stance in order to compete with the increasingly powerful worldwide sports, they not too surprisingly jumped headlong into professionlism. It was a choice which was quite frankly unavoidable.
Having made this decision, it was inevitable that the IOC would then seek to include any sport that it feels will enable it to enhance its position as the World's number one sporting spectacle, regardless of whether winning Gold within the games is the ultimate in that particular sport.
One of the most obvious examples of this is Tennis, a sport with a decent global profile. Does anyone even remotely believe that, given half a chance , Andy Murray wouldn't swap his performance against Roger Federer last Sunday for his result against the same player on the same court just 28 days earlier when the greatest prize in tennis slipped away from him. Murray's shattered reaction at losing the Wimbledon singles final contrasted sharply with Federer's rather more shrug of the shoulders response to coming second last week, which can't be merely put down to the two players very different temperements.
As for Rugby League's possible role in future Olympics? As nice as it would be to see the game's top stars being a part of the sporting jamboree, it is highly doubtful that the game has a high enough profile to meet the criteria that the IOC look for when considering new sports. I guess it wouldn't do any harm in trying to get the sport included at some future date, but I think we all know the RL powers that be would have their work cut out in order to make the case for inclusion convincing. It's a nice pipe dream but I think most of us would be amazed if it ever came to pass.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"They are different sports that share the same shaped ball and part name. Should football and Gaelic football have a merged sport at the Olympics? If they can have beach volleyball and normal volleyball no reason you can't have two codes of rugby.'"
Rugby union isn't at the Olympics, it's 7's. And there nothing to say who can and can't be selected
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Rugby union isn't at the Olympics, it's 7's. And there nothing to say who can and can't be selected'"
yeh because RU are going to want to show case RL talent! Our best bet would be to get some proper 9's competitions happening around the world, we can then at least legitmely claim it is a version of the sport that is actually played in some meaningful way. Until then we don't deserve to be even considered.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Rugby union isn't at the Olympics, it's 7's. And there nothing to say who can and can't be selected'"
You are very wrong unfortunately.
[i"Rugby sevens, also known as seven-a-side or VIIs, is a variant of rugby union in which teams are made up of seven players, instead of the usual 15, with shorter matches. Rugby sevens is administered by the International Rugby Board (IRB), the body responsible for rugby union worldwide.
Rugby sevens is now recognised as an Olympic sport and will make its debut in the 2016 Summer Olympics. This follows a vote by the executive board of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to include the sport."[/i
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| As a matter of interest, who picked Tomkins to play for the Barbarians?
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| Quote ="Mark_W"As a matter of interest, who picked Tomkins to play for the Barbarians?'"
Someone at the RFU.
So, do you now accept that there is indeed someone who can " say who can and can't be selected"?
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| If Rugby sevens had been included in the current games, then I reckon whoever was the coach of the GB side (McGeechan/Lancaster/whoever) would have looked at Sam Tomkins as a possible for inclusion in the squad, possibly Roby as well.
I don't think a whole raft of league players would get picked over their union counterparts but I would lay any money one or two would be approached (club commitments notwithstanding).
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| Golf! What a joke..same with football, tennis.
Whats next Olympic F1....20/20 cricket....darts? FFS!
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| I've absolutely loved these Olympics. Regardless of whether or not it's the sport's main event, it's a great showcase for all major sport. It would be amazing if RL ever got Olympic status, and a great shop window for the sport.
For the poster who said "there's obviously no need for 2 codes of a rugby format at the olympics", are you having a laugh?! Why? There are tons of forms of swimming, cycling, running, rowing, shooting, etc. There's singles tennis and doubles tennis. There's even two forms of volleyball. Why isn't there need for different forms of rugby (two of which are completely separate sports)? It's just a rather unusual comment to make.
RU 7s, 15s and RL 9s and 13s would be great to see (both sexes), along with wheelchair RL in the Paralympics. RL would need to strive to increase the number of countries played in in order to get Olympic status. Commonwealth Games might be a better target first.
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