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| Bad comparison, Hayne has been poor in a poor side this season. His shift to 6 has been so-so.
Warriors FB Locke/ Broncs FB Winterstein are the ones to watch.
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| Quote ="Gamer 111"How do you guys rate him againts Jarryd Hayne?'"
Jarryd does not feel comfortable at 5/8ths whereas this may be Sams best position. A case of the solid vs the stringy, but both have fantastic futures, and, I didnt release Jarryd was so young.
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| Quote ="Tigpies"Bad comparison, Hayne has been poor in a poor side this season. His shift to 6 has been so-so.
Warriors FB Locke/ Broncs FB Winterstein are the ones to watch.'"
Winterstein isnt even first choice at Broncos, Hoffman has been superb.
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| Quote ="CGD"On potential, Tomkins would wipe the floor with anyone?
Boy, he had better show something this Four Nations then.'"
Exactly, until you have done it at rep level you haven't earnt the right to be classed as the best imo.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Exactly, until you have done it at rep level you haven't earnt the right to be classed as the best imo.'"
It doesn't help when moronic England fans can't see past petty club rivalries and support him.
Slater is a genius, a legend, but he does have a tendancy to fall to bits in finals and big games.
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| In answer to the OP/ I believe anyone that has played for England or GB can easily play in the NRL.
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| Easily play nrl is correct but be a top player, never mind the best is a big ask.
Tomkins lacks the intensity of the nrl right now.
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| I dont think Tomkins would get into many NRL teams as a fullback just because his defense is pretty weak, admittedly it has come on leaps and bounds over the last year or so but if he was to be stuck in at 5/8 i can see him been a good signing for quite a few teams.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Easily play nrl is correct but be a top player, never mind the best is a big ask.
Tomkins lacks the intensity of the nrl right now.'"
Bang on.
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| I can think of a lot of GB/England players who would sink without trace in the NRL. From my own side Franny Cummins, Andy Hay, Ryan Sheridan - none would have even been regulars in Australia.
As for Tomkins, I think he could go well in the NRL, although I'm not sure eaxctly what his best position would be. He'd certainly be targeted by far better kicking games than he usually is in England, and against better organised defences some of his plays which in England cause chaos would simply not come off.
I'll support him fully when he plays for England though. From that point of view I'd like to see him try the NRL. In any event I hope he doesn;t go to union.
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| I dont think he'd cut it in the NRL or in Union, he should stick to Wigan for the next 15 years.
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| He'd be a bit above average in the NRL. If he goes young and gets a few seasons under his belt he could be a world-beater though.
I wouldn't take him right now, think a lot of Wigan and SL fans are delusional about the blokes talents.
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| Quote ="r a n c i d"He'd be a bit above average in the NRL. If he goes young and gets a few seasons under his belt he could be a world-beater though.
I wouldn't take him right now, think a lot of Wigan and SL fans are delusional about the blokes talents.'"
There's only one way to find out if he'd be good here.
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| i would love him to go to the NRL ,,,, and get smashed every week he's the best we have over here but over there like many of you have said just above average
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| I heard the exact same thing said about Ellis and he has gone well. As long as he can catch a bomb and chime into the line to take a reverse pass in the middle then he will have the attributes of a star NRL fullback.
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| The full back position is probably the most talented and strong position in Aussie RL. He definately wouldn't start ahead of:
Billy Slater, Melbourne
Brett Stewart, Manly
Darius Boyd, Saints
Kevin Locke, New Zealand
Matt Bowen, North Queensland
Kurt Gidley, Newcastle
Nathan Merrit, Souths
Ben Barba, Canterbury
Anthony Minichiello, Sydney
Lachlane Coote, Penrith
Jarryd Hayne, Para (although he has been playing 6)
Josh Dugan, Canberra
Would he get in ahead of the others i've not even mentioned? Possibly; possibly not.
He's a great broken/open field runner. He's extremely dangerous near the try-line. He has good hands and stays calm under the high ball. His defence is only okay. His decision making is naive and raw. His passing is poor. He is a bit of a 5h!t. Overall he is an exciting, dangerous, okay RL player.
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| Quote ="uglybug"Winterstein isnt even first choice at Broncos, Hoffman has been superb.'"
Winterstein was first choice on the wing last season at the Broncos, this year he joined the Cowboys and played right centre while Tate was out and then got injured himself and was out for the year.
Hoffman has been great for the Broncos but now he's injured and Gerard Beale has done a great job.
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| Shame for the Broncos - Beale has been a good deputy, but Hoffman was on fire before his injury.
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| people dont boo him because he plays for wigan they boo him because hes a horrible little scrote
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"people dont boo him because he plays for wigan they boo him because hes a horrible little scrote'"
I suppose some do yes but to be fair to him he has cleaned his act up since the CC final.
And when the 4 Nations start let's see if all England fans can get behind the lad,I am not holding my breath.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"I suppose some do yes but to be fair to him he has cleaned his act up since the CC final.
And when the 4 Nations start let's see if all England fans can get behind the lad,I am not holding my breath.
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i wouldnt boo him personally but he doesnt help himself
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"i wouldnt boo him personally but he doesnt help himself'"
I agree but we need to get behind the lads no matter who they play for,hell even if the seventeen played for Wigan I would still get behind them.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"I agree but we need to get behind the lads no matter who they play for,hell even if the seventeen played for Wigan I would still get behind them.
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yes i agree i think he will be playing union soon anyway but until then lets get behind them
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| Four tries in Englands first game of the 4N. Cant really ask more and had some really skillfull moments. I know Wales are not the greatest team, but it will be interseting next week at Wembley.
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| Quote but it will be interseting next week at Wembley.'"
Wont it just...spirit of '90 all over again
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