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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"=#FF0000I agree with what you say but am not too concearned. As the federation trained rules kick in the number for all clubs will eventually be reduced to 5. Any player trained outside the federation who was in SL before the rule was implimented is excempt and classed as federation trained but it wont be long before such players have retired.'"
The OP would not be too concerned either if it was any one but Hull KR  |
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"So you don't find the fact a team has more foreigners than Englishmen in the 17 a point for discussion? My question was when a team can't use the 'We're new to SL, we need some exemption excuse'.'"
hull fc fan digging hull kr......thats all anyone will see |
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| Quote ="roversmad"The OP would not be too concerned either if it was any one but Hull KR
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Please refer to my posts on the Bradford forum about them signing an unknown in Patrick Ah Van and also note what I said about Salford.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Please refer to my posts on the Bradford forum about them signing an unknown in Patrick Ah Van and also note what I said about Salford.
HTH.'"
Did you say the same last year when you signed Fitzgibbon or O'mealy. We all need foreigners in our teams and we will all sign more in the future. Wigan got slated for signing 3 Melbourne players when we were releasing 4 foreigners to accomodate them. In the past most SL teams have had too many overseas players but as i said previously it wont be long before each team only has 5 unless of course we start signing them at 18. |
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"Did you say the same last year when you signed Fitzgibbon or O'mealy. We all need foreigners in our teams and we will all sign more in the future. Wigan got slated for signing 3 Melbourne players when we were releasing 4 foreigners to accomodate them. In the past most SL teams have had too many overseas players but as i said previously it wont be long before each team only has 5 unless of course we start signing them at 18.'"
No, because Fitzgibbon and O'Meley took our overseas players to 6 which is pretty much average for SL unlike the 10 Hull KR have or Salford. |
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Please refer to my posts on the Bradford forum about them signing an unknown in Patrick Ah Van and also note what I said about Salford.
HTH.'"
If I valued your opinion I would. As I don't, I won't bother. |
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and if that team win us silverware next year I don;t give a flying 5h1t what their passport says!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"and if that team win us silverware next year I don;t give a flying 5h1t what their passport says!'"
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"and if that team win us silverware next year I don;t give a flying 5h1t what their passport says!'"
The worst thing is, it probably won't.
Mason's a decent player and so are Galea and Newton. Dobson's your best player and no one has heard of Green so I won't comment on him however Clinton is average, Lovergrove is average, Fisher is way below average, Websters been average for you, Vella is shot, |
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"
10 out of the first choice 17 born outside the UK which IMO is shocking, to have more overseas players than Englishmen in the 17. Only two players who were brought through their academy too. This is up by 3 on the number they started this season with too. I know Salford are guilty of this too however they seem to be bringing through their own quality youth (Myler, Ratchford etc..) and also Crusaders though they are a newly formed club.
My question is, when does a club stop being 'just promoted and needing to have a few extra Aussies' to needing to do a whole lot better than they are.'"
Nitpicking I know , but which club did Myler come from again ?  |
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| Quote ="Starbug"Nitpicking I know , but which club did Myler come from again ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Nitpicking I know , but which club did Myler come from again ?
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I might be wrong here but i think Salford signed him from Widnes.  |
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"This is off the Hull KR fans board, it represents many of their fans starting 17's;
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10 out of the first choice 17 born outside the UK which IMO is shocking, to have more overseas players than Englishmen in the 17. Only two players who were brought through their academy too. This is up by 3 on the number they started this season with too. I know Salford are guilty of this too however they seem to be bringing through their own quality youth (Myler, Ratchford etc..) and also Crusaders though they are a newly formed club.
My question is, when does a club stop being 'just promoted and needing to have a few extra Aussies' to needing to do a whole lot better than they are.'"
Our 19 man squad for today :
Salford: Ratchford, Broughton, Gibson, Talau, Tyrer, Sneyd, M. Smith, Cashmere, J. Smith, Neal, Sibbit, Littler, Swain, Owen, Leuluai, Parker, Jewitt, Sidlow, Boyle.
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| Quote ="Red-4-life"Our 19 man squad for today :
Salford: Ratchford, Broughton, Gibson, Talau, Tyrer, Sneyd, M. Smith, Cashmere, J. Smith, Neal, Sibbit, Littler, Swain, Owen, Leuluai, Parker, Jewitt, Sidlow, Boyle.
So that's 5 players out of the 19 man squad who are over seas.'"
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It's an utter disgrace. We should all be shot. Now, with Spud Guns until very deaded.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"and if that team win us silverware next year I don;t give a flying 5h1t what their passport says!'"
and would you feel; the same if they missed out on the playoffs, finishing 9th with Crusaders finishing 8th?
this will be your 5th season in SL, to need 10 overseas players in your 17 is pathetic |
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Whats even more shocking about Hull KRs line up is that all the aussies are journeymen with the exception maybe of Mason.
At least wigan sign half decent aussies.
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| Quote ="Moomin"At least wigan sign half decent aussies.'"
Still got far too many to say all their fans do is brag about all the brilliant young players they have.
Ignoring Crusaders for a minute, who has the most overseas players next year? Salford, KR or Wigan? |
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Gonna be KR isnt it. They're not a bad side but it's proven time and time again that the best teams all have very good local players, a few very good imports and more decent British players filling out the squad with depth. Who was the last team to win a title that didnt have 4 or 5 very very good locally developed players in the 17
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| Quote ="Moomin"Whats even more shocking about Hull KRs line up is that all the aussies are journeymen with the exception maybe of Mason.
At least wigan sign half decent aussies.'"
Like that well known Journeyman Ben Galea?
Can you remind me his total appearances for Wests? |
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When someone as morally unimpeachable as Long complains, well you have to take notice.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"When someone as morally unimpeachable as Long complains, well you have to take notice.'" And isn't the is the guys that stuck 2 fingers up to the international game whilst he was still on tour? |
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| Quote ="Roverswall"And isn't the is the guys that stuck 2 fingers up to the international game whilst he was still on tour?'"
Don't listen to his version of events because, well he's telling porkies |
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