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| Now that would be a statement of intent. I'm sure if enough money was made available he may be swayed.
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"Now that would be a statement of intent. I'm sure if enough money was made available he may be swayed.'"
And he might be able to play more than 10 minutes each half ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Crocked wrist was set to rule him out for most of 2024 so paid up his contract. If the wire board is to be believed
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Crocked wrist was set to rule him out for most of 2024 so paid up his contract. If the wire board is to be believed'"
Over use of the wrist no doubt?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Over use of the wrist no doubt?'"
Thought that certain injury is cramp.
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I was kind of hoping it would free up one of their quota players like Nakubawaii for us to make a play.
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I was kind of hoping it would free up one of their quota players like Nakubawaii for us to make a play.
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Probably for the best. if you’re spending that kind of dosh you want the player to be really keen to join you, doesn’t seem like he was t hurt
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Probably for the best. if you’re spending that kind of dosh you want the player to be really keen to join you, doesn’t seem like he was t hurt
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| Probably just click bait all along.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/new-quota-rule-allows-super-28387221
Wonder if we’ll take advantage of this.'"
You would hope we shall. Could open up a few quality young players in their early 20s who we can sign this season/mid season with a preperation for 2025 season too.
A big young prop and a destructive second rower of good quality I’m sure could be found. Mills will be busy now this has opened up possibilities.
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| That opens up a lot of possibilities for Mills
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/new-quota-rule-allows-super-28387221
Wonder if we’ll take advantage of this.'"
I’m really not happy about this to be honest.
As a club we have an excellent youth structure and we need to trust the process.
Should we get in to SL there is no relegation for 3 years, no need to panic buy players without genuine proven quality potentially blocking the pathways of young English players. I am aware we will have a depth chart of players in all positions across all development stages from scholarship to first team and if we stay true to that which I’m sure we will then I guess it could help us short term.
Looking at the bigger picture I’m of the opinion the quota is too high anyway. I appreciate we cannot just chop numbers but I would like to see us work towards a reduction of 5 within the next 4 years and then 3 within the decade.
I do believe it’s a short term approach if clubs jump on this.
I’ve no issue with good Aussies coming over and and players who can genuinely bring quality to these shores but can’t say I’m a fan of making it easier to bring players over.
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| Quote ="jonh"I’m really not happy about this to be honest.
As a club we have an excellent youth structure and we need to trust the process.
Should we get in to SL there is no relegation for 3 years, no need to panic buy players without genuine proven quality potentially blocking the pathways of young English players. I am aware we will have a depth chart of players in all positions across all development stages from scholarship to first team and if we stay true to that which I’m sure we will then I guess it could help us short term.
Looking at the bigger picture I’m of the opinion the quota is too high anyway. I appreciate we cannot just chop numbers but I would like to see us work towards a reduction of 5 within the next 4 years and then 3 within the decade.
I do believe it’s a short term approach if clubs jump on this.
I’ve no issue with good Aussies coming over and and players who can genuinely bring quality to these shores but can’t say I’m a fan of making it easier to bring players over.'"
I think the quota cap is a different discussion. The cap isn’t increasing as it stands.
The change we may see from this is less nrl players coming at the tail end of their career for a pay day or past their prime but in place of that some talent that’s early 20’s who could be coming into their prime. That’s not a bad thing imo.
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| I have continually stated that investing In Crigglestone, Eastmoor, Normanton and Stanley, four solid clubs with facilities, is the way ahead. New players, new coaches, new fans etc, etc.
I agree with the above that we should be looking to reduce the quota. I am certain we would still follow our teams if there were just three instead of seven overseas players. A massive expenditure reduction as a bonus.
At Crigg, we are lucky this year to have Trinity legend JT and Mason Lino as a bonus of the Big Bopper being with us.
It’s simple, Trinity, please allocate players to the clubs to help and identify talent and save yourselves a fortune.
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| Quote ="jonh"I’m really not happy about this to be honest.
As a club we have an excellent youth structure and we need to trust the process.
Should we get in to SL there is no relegation for 3 years, no need to panic buy players without genuine proven quality potentially blocking the pathways of young English players. I am aware we will have a depth chart of players in all positions across all development stages from scholarship to first team and if we stay true to that which I’m sure we will then I guess it could help us short term.
Looking at the bigger picture I’m of the opinion the quota is too high anyway. I appreciate we cannot just chop numbers but I would like to see us work towards a reduction of 5 within the next 4 years and then 3 within the decade.
I do believe it’s a short term approach if clubs jump on this.
I’ve no issue with good Aussies coming over and and players who can genuinely bring quality to these shores but can’t say I’m a fan of making it easier to bring players over.'"
No relegation for 3 years? Not read that?!
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"No relegation for 3 years? Not read that?!'"
I believe once you are in you are in for 3 years with IMG grading not being done again for 3 years.
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| Quote ="jonh"I believe once you are in you are in for 3 years with IMG grading not being done again for 3 years.'"
I understood it was a yearly score using three year averages.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I think the quota cap is a different discussion. The cap isn’t increasing as it stands.
The change we may see from this is less nrl players coming at the tail end of their career for a pay day or past their prime but in place of that some talent that’s early 20’s who could be coming into their prime. That’s not a bad thing imo.'"
Most of the players come at the end of their careers are proven quality players. Most bring something to the comp.
I’ve no issue with those signings.
Bringing the young lads who are not getting a look in into the NRL (if they were they wouldn’t be coming) isn’t the way to go for me.
I appreciate it doesn’t increase the quota but it will increase significantly the numbers of players of lower quality.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I understood it was a yearly score using three year averages.'"
You are correct, not sure where I got my interpretation from.
The point stands though, if you are in SL and doing the right things off the pitch it’s unlikely you are going to get relegated.
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| Quote ="jonh"I’m really not happy about this to be honest.
As a club we have an excellent youth structure and we need to trust the process.
Should we get in to SL there is no relegation for 3 years, no need to panic buy players without genuine proven quality potentially blocking the pathways of young English players. I am aware we will have a depth chart of players in all positions across all development stages from scholarship to first team and if we stay true to that which I’m sure we will then I guess it could help us short term.
Looking at the bigger picture I’m of the opinion the quota is too high anyway. I appreciate we cannot just chop numbers but I would like to see us work towards a reduction of 5 within the next 4 years and then 3 within the decade.
I do believe it’s a short term approach if clubs jump on this.
I’ve no issue with good Aussies coming over and and players who can genuinely bring quality to these shores but can’t say I’m a fan of making it easier to bring players over.'"
No relegation for 3 years? Where do you get that from?
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| Quote ="PopTart"No relegation for 3 years? Where do you get that from?'"
See above…don’t actually know where I got that from but having read up it’s not the case, potentially a throw back to the franchise days in my head, but I am incorrect it’s an annual grading.
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| Quote ="jonh"Most of the players come at the end of their careers are proven quality players. Most bring something to the comp.
I’ve no issue with those signings.
Bringing the young lads who are not getting a look in into the NRL (if they were they wouldn’t be coming) isn’t the way to go for me.
I appreciate it doesn’t increase the quota but it will increase significantly the numbers of players of lower quality.'"
Think you're missing the point of this change in the rules, the RFL have actually approached the government because the UK is being priced out of the "quality NRL players" so are only picking up the last payday guys, if these younger players were getting regular NRL games, they also would demand a high price, that the UK clubs can't afford, therefore opening up the talent pot by removing the criteria for 1st grade/international appearances allows good decent young talent that could be used in the UK/Europe competitions makes sense.
However I do agree on your previous point that the quota numbers need to be reduce, down to 5 ASAP and as low as 3 makes sense.
Also I agree with Manuel's point, Trinity should be spending more time with local community clubs developing talent there as early as U8/9's and YJARL need to stop allowing teams to just pop up out of nowhere using some random facilities, just because there's been a fall out at there old club. Teams like Crigg, Easmoor, Stanley and Normaton spend £1000's a year to run their clubs and have done for a number of years. Stop all these phoenix clubs appearing and invest longterm not short term fix's.
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| Quote ="jonh"See above…don’t actually know where I got that from but having read up it’s not the case, potentially a throw back to the franchise days in my head, but I am incorrect it’s an annual grading.'"
Most definitely an annual grading.
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| Quote ="financialtimes"Think you're missing the point of this change in the rules, the RFL have actually approached the government because the UK is being priced out of the "quality NRL players" so are only picking up the last payday guys, if these younger players were getting regular NRL games, they also would demand a high price, that the UK clubs can't afford, therefore opening up the talent pot by removing the criteria for 1st grade/international appearances allows good decent young talent that could be used in the UK/Europe competitions makes sense.
However I do agree on your previous point that the quota numbers need to be reduce, down to 5 ASAP and as low as 3 makes sense.
Also I agree with Manuel's point, Trinity should be spending more time with local community clubs developing talent there as early as U8/9's and YJARL need to stop allowing teams to just pop up out of nowhere using some random facilities, just because there's been a fall out at there old club. Teams like Crigg, Easmoor, Stanley and Normaton spend £1000's a year to run their clubs and have done for a number of years. Stop all these phoenix clubs appearing and invest longterm not short term fix's.'"
To me pricing out of NRL players isn’t a bad thing.
We are still going to pick up players like Fifita, French, Field, Croft, Hastings, Arona, Etc, we are just increasing the instances of lower quality player coming over. Players who are on the fringes of NRL will generally meet the criteria to come over they will have had a crack and not quite made it.
To me increasing the pool (effectively lowering the standard of it also) simply puts up more barriers for the developing English players.
I’ve no doubt there will be some gems over there playing at that level, but I’m also sure there will be some gems already playing the game who if they get a chance will rise to the occasion.
For me the biggest difference between the players is athletic ability. The environments in which they are coached and investment in that area in Australia is superior.
This to me gives us another excuse not to focus on investing in that area at all levels because why would we when we can just dig into the overseas market.
At some point we have to grasp the nettle to grow the sport in this country, I personally think the way to do that is through international success.
That’s not going to happen quickly however this move in my opinion is another step away from achieving this.
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