If you say so precious.

We all agree there is nothing to be expected from the new structure don't we lil' buddy?

I havent done anything, those are the 'outcomes' the RFL gave for the new system. Im happy to call them benchmarks, predictions, expectations, hopes, dreams, stardust and unicorns or whatever you want. But whatever words you choose to try and minimize their importance you are still left with a stark dichotomy. Either the RFL failed to properly research and plan their fundamental change to the games structure, or they did properly research and plan their fundamental change but that change is failing.

Do the RFL not print the ave attendance for the SL Clubs after they've all played their 11 home games.

Nope you've just decided that in your head.

Brilliant, so as we arent judging its success on the metrics set down as the benchmark by the RFL, and we arent to judge it one what you said would be its benefits. Perhaps you can let us know what we are to expect from it?

Here's an idea, judge it how YOU want because that's what you'll do anyway, not what on I say or what the RFL says....if they had met this benchmark you keep going on about you'd still be telling us how bad and awful the system is because that's all you've been doing for 2 years. What I, you and another poster expect from it can all vary between individual so you expect what you want from it, just don't be amazed and dumbfounded that others aren't as full of hate over it as you and no matter how hard you've constantly tried to prove it's failed you'll just have to accept that that's in your eyes and not some fact that is undeniable.

So we are agreed that there is nothing to be expected from the new system then aren't we slugger!

There is literally no objective measure for success you will accept. The bar for success according to your gymnastics is literally nothing.

the one thing the new system does is weed out the 4 worst under-performers of the previous 23 rounds before the next 7 games then weed out the next worst performers.....it then rewards the most consistent and best performing 4 teams with a chance to become Super League Champions.......Who wants the dross finishing lower than halfway in the league (7th or 8th) to become champions.????

Has that happened in SL under any system?

no....but it has made certain that a team can't win it from lower than 4th now....which has happened in the past

Started reading this thread, saw SmokeyTA had started quoting people, closed thread and moved on.

RIP "The 2016 Ave club attendance" thread.

No you're just reading what you want to read and carrying on like a child having a sulk.

What are they then. It's an either or situation here. There are things we can judge it on or there aren't. Indulge in all the rhetorical gymnastics and terrible metaphors and similes you like.

And 4th being able to win it is great but 5th being able to win it is terrible because...

Oh well. This could have been such a good thread

Yeah it was brilliant when people were making up away fan attendances.

Nope, it couldn't ever have been a good thread.

Threads on attendances bring out the worst in a lot of RL fans.

Even when facts on attendances and trends are posted, it causes many fans to enter into a state of spontaneous combustion when attendance figures don't fit in with their insular, cultist views on their club or Super League in general.

I have the attendance figures requested earlier on this thread but, sadly, I won't be sharing.

How do super 8 attendances compare to regular season attendances?

Aw come on. Especially if they're after the 11 home games.

I'd be interested to see them if you can PM them in any way.

I posted on the Wakefield board that we were the lowest attendance for Wigan and Hull but third highest for Cas.
We posted an improvement but we are starting from such a small position that improvement still leaves us low down.
We are of course limited and helped by our stadium.
We have a massive atmosphere when we have 7k because it's near capacity whereas Huddersfield or Hull could close three stands for that many, yet Hull (as an example) have massive crowds compared to ours, partly because the stadium is so much better and a nicer place to watch sport

I thought exactly the same!


If you're referring to my posts then i haven't made any figures up, they are all official figures from the club(s).

So what was the average attendance of the super league clubs after they'd all played 11 home fixtures.

That may be partly your own fault. For the first game of last season Cas sold out their allocation of tickets, quite a lot of us managed to buy tickets direct from HKR and sat with your fans. The ground was no where near full so I can't understand why Cas weren't allowed more tickets.

Is it the same for all visiting teams?