BS.

franchising gives clubs certainty to attract private investment

wakey have had 3 years to fullfill their franchise promises and failed.

your club has managed to live up to its franchise promises.

heck hull kr have improved their ground more since theyve entered SL than wakey have since 1950.

for the game of RL to progress clubs have to improve

some will and some wont, there are always winners and losers in life.

salford being guaranteed a franchise last time will have helped them get finance for the stadium

had they been in a relegation spot i doubt if the stadium would be going ahead

not gonna look throw 58 pages, but if this has been covered then sorry

got told y.day wakefields sam obst to huddersfield

I'd be gobsmacked if that happened, we've no need for him

Did Huddersfield need Brough?

Yes in my opinion, a decent kicker was needed and Brough fitted the bill

What i cant see is us going for another half now, brough, brown, robinson, lunt and fooey already hence no need for obst

Fair enough.

we don't have franchises we have 3 year licenses. A world of differenc eif you are a millionaire thinking of putting some of your ill gotten gains into a sports club.

I agree re HKR doing well to improve CP but Wakey intend to move to a new ground, I am sure if they had decided 10 years ago to stay where they are and improve they would have done so bit by bit. TBH if Hull etc hadn't got sugar daddy councils to build new stadiums they would likely be also still be playing out of belle vue esq stadia.

i intend to make 1 million dollars and bonk supermodels

intentions dont mean squat

hull got a new stadium, wakey didnt

thats life, winners and losers

losers always come up with excuses why it didnt work out for them

tough, SL aint a charity

Isn't that exactly what they promised 10 years ago as a condition of promotion?

Thats an urban myth

What finance have Salford got for the stadium????

You mean £20m pounds given to 'them' by the council and then a return payment of £10m back from Peel in staged payments as the development progresses meaning that Peel put in £10m the council put in £10 and all Salford do is give up their existing ground for a new one! I can't see any finance at all raised by Salford's Ltd company and if there is, it will be small change in comparison.

I am not having a go at Salford, Salford Council or Peel, the deal is the deal and if you are given it, you take it with both hands. The only thing that has held Salford up is the PI, otherwise this would have been done 2 years ago.

Does this situation sound familiar to you? It sounds familiar to me, just different timings!

The problem with you mate is you talk utter, utter rubbish!

Salford were guaranteed a franchise last time? Really?

im guessing you are a wakey fan by that post

am i correct

I thought, from reading your posts for so long, that you knew everything?

You lack even the most basic investigative skill... push the profile button... just there look!

Click on his profile, that will give you a big clue

or maybe we would have got a £4million handout like kr have recently to build their north stand, missed that little one out didn't you, regarding the sugar daddy council, kr were also invited to play at the kc but turned down the opportunity!

pull your head in, I'm not having a dig at FC, we are both lucky to have a council that supports the cities clubs and had some family silver to sell off to pay for it. Wakey don't have that luxury, nor do they have the luxury of having a soccer or RU club with a new stadium they can borrow. If Hull CC didn't have the KC company to sell reality is FC would still be struggling in a run down Boulevard and be in a similair stadium situation to Wakefield. There but the grace of god go I and all that.

So who owns the ground of the team you support and if not the team do they pay rent?

I think you'll also find that Wrexham Village are the holding company for both Crusaders and Wrexham FC so all three (both teams and the ground) are owned by the same company (sadly for the football fans who fought long and hard to maintain the club ownership of the ground once before)

im going to stump up the half million just so you guys can have a breather from this thread

But does that tell him that you have a vested interest in the Wakey stadium

I don't have any 'vested interest' as this term does have a strict legal definition (despite 'the' Cas Forum members speculating that I must do) but I do have a strong interest... and I think that is what you mean!



To be fair I have strong interests in all ground developments, I just don't live close to the others!

It is just that dally clearly has issues with Wakefield (for whatever warped reason, I have no interest really) and that is up to them, but it was just yet another post full of rubbish with no basis in fact at all used to justify their clear hatred of Wakefield. That is all really!

Of course as tb has posted before, it would rule out 80% of all posts on here if they had to have basis in fact the majority of the time!

The administrator has now published the list of creditors.

Overall, they owed a total of £2,053,000

Largest creditor was the RFL, who were owed £701,425, followed by HMRC who were owed £440,353

Thanks Derwent for the penitent (edit: clearly I meant pertinent, but maybe penitent is a better word

) information. The rumour about HMRC being hacked off by the RFL big-style would appear to be adding to Wakefield's many woes!

Can't see Leigh Centurions being allowed to use it for security against a 'loan', let alone even thinking of using it.

Moss and Roberts seem to be the two most unpopular men in Wrexham and having read alot of the history and views of very many people which seem to number far more than a minority, their popularity or lack of it seems justified. How different are they to the original owner of Celtic Crusaders?