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| Quote ="J.T"Total rubbish. Wakey fans are waiting for answers to some very important questions before handing over their money.'"
If they get all the answers it would be a major surprise if half the required money was raised.
Ted only expects to raise around £160K from the sale of season tickets where people get entry to all the SL home games!
How much did the last shares offer raise? That was done at a time of relative success + there was no recession + people had more than 3.5 weeks to commit + amounts far blow £1K were accepted.
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| Quote ="Ceejames"If they get all the answers it would be a major surprise if half the required money was raised.
Ted only expects to raise around £160K from the sale of season tickets where people get entry to all the SL home games!
How much did the last shares offer raise? That was done at a time of relative success + there was no recession + people had more than 3.5 weeks to commit + amounts far blow £1K were accepted.'"
A surprise yes but not impossible. You just never know when your luck might change. A fan may come into some money a multi millonaire Russian may step in.
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| Quote ="J.T"A surprise yes but not impossible. You just never know when your luck might change. A fan may come into some money a multi millonaire Russian may step in.'" So you are now holding out for a massive lottery win or a Russian oil billionare to say 'I want to throw money into SL and I have heard so much about these Wakefield Trinity Wildcats I gunna waste my money there!'.
You're not serious obviously.
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| Quote ="Ceejames"Only about of half of this post is about posters and the OCD need you have to look up their postings
Let's hope you may soon be able to write 100% about the thread topic.
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[I refer you to Leaguefans post where I simply answered his post questioning your attitude towards Wakefield. I merely pointed out the facts about 4 different posters all with the same agenda that being to belittle Wakey at every opportunity, the things they had in common were they were all Giants fans, there most active topic was about Wakey and I put up their names, you half heartedly tried to deny that they were you, and then tried to deflect the situation by using your stock phrase keep on topic, do you really want to deny this again, please feel free to
Let me stick to the topic. It appears wakey fans are happy to 'spend other people's money' but wil not put their hand in their own pocket. Something Starbug has alluded to. 15000 wil sign a petition for someone else to pay for a stadium but only a few hundred will buy a season ticket and it seems few will put money in the escrow account.
[Other than to confuse the issue in an attempt to make yourself look intelligent by linking your 3 points, what has 15,000 people who are wanting sporting facilities which there is as I'm sure your aware off a distinct lack of in the city got to do with people putting money in an escrow account and buying season tickets, all 3 are seperate issues. Does it mean then that If somebody signs the petition because they want better sporting facilities in the city they should automatically order a season ticket, and bob a thousand pound into a fund for his trouble, and shame on Wakey fans for having the nerve to accept the chance to play in a new stadium that does not belong to us, you are right we should have to build our own stadium and not rely on other people, just like most of SL really
Though Ted could have been more subtle he has challenged wakey fans to put up or shut up.
[and your point is what exactly.
many appear to have short arms, long pockets and big mouths.
[you really need to make your mind up, first you blame lord Ted for having the affront to ask the Wakey fans to stump up money for the club, and now you are
insulting them because they are taking your advice and ignoring him, I suppose thats what they call a woman's logic
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| Quote ="Roverswall"So you are now holding out for a massive lottery win or a Russian oil billionare to say 'I want to throw money into SL and I have heard so much about these Wakefield Trinity Wildcats I gunna waste my money there!'.
You're not serious obviously.'"
Sadly I am serious.
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| Anybody else thinking this thread has run its course. Seems to be going around in circles with nothing new to add to the debate.
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| Quote ="Fully"Anybody else thinking this thread has run its course. Seems to be going around in circles [uwith nothing new to add to the debate[/u.'"
Do not under estimate her highness, but your right we could always talk about Cas for a change ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="chissitt"Do not under estimate her highness, but your right we could always talk about Cas for a change
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Aye. It's always good to talk about the biggest club in the district isn't it.
Just think we know the situation and it's like a broken record now with old Trolly McTroll. Wakey fans don't need rubbish thrown at them - they need to make the decisions for themselves. They especially don't need the seriousness of the situation rubbed in their face. Should be getting support, if anything.
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| Quote ="tb"let's all cut out the personal spats and stay on topic, please'"
Monday 10 Jan, p48 of this thread. And yet some still don't learn. This continues, people lose VT posting rights.
Hopefully that's clear enough.
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| Quote ="chissitt"
I suppose thats what they call a woman's logic
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This is not the first time you have refered to 'women' in a pejorative way. By all means disagree with my rugby views but the sexist stuff is tawdry.
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| Quote ="Fully"Anybody else thinking this thread has run its course. Seems to be going around in circles with nothing new to add to the debate.'"
there are plenty of issues to consider. Maybe a SL club a couple of weeks away from administration is of little interest to you, fine. The proposed Supporters Trust may be of no significance to you, again fine. However the prospect of a club going into administration a few weeks before the new SL season may be worthy of discussion and speculation.
If the club needs £500K to get to the end of the season will anyone be willing to buy the club if it goes into administration? Which businessman/woman would put in half a million knowing the club would not get a licence? Who would put in half a million for a team likely to be in the championship in 2012 and being far cheaper once there?
If the administrators cannot find a buyer of that magnitude then what is their duty re current shareholders / creditors? These are serious issues that have an impact far beyond Trinity.
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| you dont even support the club, youve asked the questions before, they have been answered before, but i suppose you will now ask them again. ![WALL eusa_wall.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_wall.gif)
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| Quote ="Fully"Anybody else thinking this thread has run its course. Seems to be going around in circles with nothing new to add to the debate.'"
i thought that 20 pgs ago
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| Quote ="Ceejames"there are plenty of issues to consider. Maybe a SL club a couple of weeks away from administration is of little interest to you, fine. The proposed Supporters Trust may be of no significance to you, again fine. However the prospect of a club going into administration a few weeks before the new SL season may be worthy of discussion and speculation.
If the club needs £500K to get to the end of the season will anyone be willing to buy the club if it goes into administration? Which businessman/woman would put in half a million knowing the club would not get a licence? Who would put in half a million for a team likely to be in the championship in 2012 and being far cheaper once there?
If the administrators cannot find a buyer of that magnitude then what is their duty re current shareholders / creditors? These are serious issues that have an impact far beyond Trinity.'"
'Lets go round again...'
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| Quote ="J.T"'Lets go round again...''"
i must have missed the discussion of what happens if wakey go into administration. It appears people considering buying the club were 'put off' by no guarentee of SL status in 2012-14. This has not changed.
Who is it who will put in substantial funds knowing the club will be relegated for a minimum of 3 years? The apparent absence of this backing threatens the existence of Trin.
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| the RFL reaps what it sows with stupid 1/2 ar5ed franchising I guess. Shame Wakey fans will be the ones to pay the price, won't be the first or last time I guess.
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| Quote ="Ceejames"there are plenty of issues to consider. Maybe a SL club a couple of weeks away from administration is of little interest to you, fine. However the prospect of a club going into administration a few weeks before the new SL season may be worthy of discussion and speculation.
If the club needs £500K to get to the end of the season will anyone be willing to buy the club if it goes into administration? Which businessman/woman would put in half a million knowing the club would not get a licence? Who would put in half a million for a team likely to be in the championship in 2012 and being far cheaper once there?
If the administrators cannot find a buyer of that magnitude then what is their duty re current shareholders / creditors? These are serious issues that have an impact far beyond Trinity.'"
Strange that I never did manage to see a thread entitled 'not looking good for Crusaders' at any time from when they were in Bridgend to a fortnight ago,from you,about the far 'more serious issues that may have an impact far beyond Trinty'.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"the RFL reaps what it sows with stupid 1/2 ar5ed franchising I guess. Shame Wakey fans will be the ones to pay the price, won't be the first or last time I guess.'"
Yeah, Wakey would be in fine financial fettle if it wasn't for the pesky RFL.
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| Quote ="TwoBlues"Strange that I never did manage to see a thread entitled 'not looking good for Crusaders' at any time from when they were in Bridgend to a fortnight ago,from you,about the far 'more serious issues that may have an impact far beyond Trinty'.'"
Crusaders have an excellent ground, wealthy backers, assets on which loans can be safely secured, they imporved on field last year and reached the play offs, their gates were up substantially. This thread is about wakey not crusaders.
If you want such a thread on crusaders, start one - that's the great thing about the forum.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"the RFL reaps what it sows with stupid 1/2 ar5ed franchising I guess. Shame Wakey fans will be the ones to pay the price, won't be the first or last time I guess.'"
Wakey had problems with their ground, a cva and were taken to court for not honouring player contracts long befoe franchising.
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| Quote ="Ceejames"Though Ted could have been more subtle he has challenged wakey fans to put up or shut up.
and your point is what exactly.
[umany appear to have short arms, long pockets and big mouths.[/u
You really need to make your mind up, first you blame lord Ted for having the front to ask the Wakey fans to stump up money for the club, and now you are insulting them because they are taking your advice and ignoring him,
I suppose thats what they call a [uwoman's[/u logic
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Quote ="Ceejames"[uThis is not the first time you have refered to 'women' in a pejorative way.[/u By all means disagree with my rugby views but the sexist stuff is tawdry.'"
Above is the offending post, if you look it it refers to your desperate "and not for the first time either" attempt to insult the club with your your offensive posts about our chairman and fans, all I have asked you to do is make your mind up who this tirade is actually about, Ted or the fans I note that you have conveniently ignored my question and instead tried to complicate things further by calling me a sexist, how can I be sexist when I am married to one ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif) if you take the trouble to look properly you will see that the remark was about you in particular and your reasoning hence the [uwoman[/u singular, while I have noticed you have now extended the issue to include all [uwomen[/u plural, with all these fancy words you keep throwing at me on here I hardly think it was clerical error on your part, but in the interest of harmony I am happy to accept your apologies in advance and accept it was just that, an error on your part ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Fine. I'm bored with this bllx. You can both take a break from the VT.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"the RFL reaps what it sows with stupid 1/2 ar5ed franchising I guess. Shame Wakey fans will be the ones to pay the price, won't be the first or last time I guess.'"
Are you really trying to tell us that you think Wakey are going down the pan purely due to franchising?
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| Quote ="Ceejames"Crusaders have an excellent ground, wealthy backers, assets on which loans can be safely secured, they imporved on field last year and reached the play offs, their gates were up substantially. This thread is about wakey not crusaders.
If you want such a thread on crusaders, start one - that's the great thing about the forum.'"
Its shocking that those assets don't even belong to the Crusaders. Moss and roberts, the saviours, laughable. They'll need bigger pockets for all the SKY money that finds its way into them, £150,000 for starters for rent on the ground, not sure they are much different in their management styles to a certain Mr Samuels
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Are you really trying to tell us that you think Wakey are going down the pan purely due to franchising?'"
not purely, but partly (if the rumours re backer are true). Having just a 3 year license with someone guaranteed to go down means that you are a good chance of excluding private investment. Who is going to pump alot of their money in to a business with only a guaranteed 3 year commercial life?
Plenty of clubs are surviving so it is not entirely a problem but for the weaker clubs it may well be.
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