Whilst O'Loughlin and Isa are still getting away with the same as they have for over a decade the game will not change. Wigan look coached to cheat. Hill has a reputation for being a thug.

What a terrible game to start the season.

I hope Saints show us some skill tonight, not the garbage we endured last night.

I was half expecting Cummings to chime in with the exact ruling but I think Sky might have binned him off?
I don't know the exact ruling on when it changes from a charge down to a knock on, but I can see the argument for both tbh.

This is a bit harsh. I thought it was a very enjoyable game, the cards opened up the play and it was pretty end to end stuff for a lot of the match. You'll certainly see much worse games over the course of the season than last night's.

I must admit, even as a Wigan fan I found that one baffling to say the least. One of several in the game.

If you thought that game was “terrible” I suggest you walk away now.

Yep it's not the game for you.

I was always under the impression that to charge down your arms must me held out straight above shoulder height?

if the ball is on an upwards trajectory from a kick, then it is a charge down - regardless of how the arms are. If it is on a downwards trajectory, then it is a knock on.

So technically it was a charge down last night - even though most people watching it wouldn't say so.

Certainly not a terrible game (very exciting actually) but some pretty terrible skill levels on show at times, particularly Wigan.

Bit disappointed in Hastings - sharp in patches but should be creating much more against 12 men.

I always thought that leading with the elbow deliberately into a players head was a big no no...seems not. Wires must have missed that memo....time to instruct our players to aim for the throat in every tackle.

I was very surprised that didn’t warrant any action at all!

Nope, I will watch and understand why the lack of skill in SL keeps us beyond the Ausies, if that is OK with you. If it looks and smells like a turd, it is a turd, and last night was a turd.

as your sig says, opinion is opinion, unless it's fact, and my opinion is last nights game stank like a turd.

to suggest i walk away because it was a dour game is the reason why RL struggles, there was NO entertainment lqst night, you could have had a shot clock on how long it would take OLoughlin to get up after a tackelt or how far Austin could spit his dummy.

i hope for better from the game tonight qnd the two games on Sunday.

I was suggesting that if you didn’t think that was exciting then there will be very few matches this season that will reach your standard. Again, just my opinion.

There will be a majority of matches way more entertaining than last night, out of interest, how long have you been watching SL, was last night genuinely exciting?

First match was 1974, have you ever been to a game, out of interest.

Yes, first match 1976, 44 years and still going, but I can also see and smell turd.

we all have opinions, that is why we are here.

At that vintage I would’ve thought you realised that a game doesn’t have to be a pointathon to be exciting, but I accept I’m not going to change your opinion on what constitutes “exciting “ any more than you will mine.

I don't find O'loughlin laying on the same way he has for his entire career, cheap shots from both sides, poor refereeing, constant offsides and a lack of finesse exciting.

But the Saints game was boring because it was so one sided, hopefully the Leeds v Hull game will be a decent match, I don't know what to expect from Toronto v Cas, we will know by 6pm tonight if there has been anything to get excited about, but it is very early days.

3 games for Hill.

Nothing for any Wigan players.

Awaits the crying from Wire fans

We own the RFL

Gutted. Hes worth 3-4 penalties a game and a load of missed tackles

yes it was expected smithies would get away with the accusation of racking due to lack of clear evidence, I would hate to think that players are now falsifying accusations just to get penalties

The ref will never give a penalty for an accusation like this unless he see’s it. If he see’s it the ref will give a red card too.

More likely Austin was trying to focus the refs attention away from Warrington’s antics.

I'm not talking about the ref I'm talking about the panel who had evidence of a hand on his face but hadn't enough evidence to show clear raking.

What was the warrington's antics as it was clear with the sending off but nothing else stood for me and I'm neutral viewer