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| Agree that the players should be staying home, its their career and the sport is at risk so a few months sacrifice shouldent be a hardship for them.
However its judgemental to just assume players went to the pub and caught it. Super League announced on Friday that all tests were negative, it seems symtoms show 2-14 days after infection, so it could be the players had it but the test missed it or they only had it at low levels. They could have caught it on game day, on the coach, at the supermarket on their way home, or pretty much anywhere...we wont ever know.
Surely our game gets called off this weekend, from a competitioj point of view we are 6 players down, from a health point of view if I was a Cas player or ref I wouldent want to be anywhere near the FC squad!
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Austin clearly broke the governments rules but yet still doesn’t seem to have been massively punished. Compare that to talk of Pangai Jnr being sacked for a trip to the barbers in a country with a far better record with this virus. It’s little wonder this has already hit us.
On the flip side with guys like Hastings, Hardaker and Hankinson from Wigan, I saw them post last night that they were out in Manchester but the pictures were of them sat outside. Even with the tougher measures in Greater Manchester, I believe you can sit outside bars in groups of six or less? The players will say they’re therefore doing nothing wrong but it’s still hugely risky and irresponsible IMO. The game is on the edge and it’s their own livelihoods they’re risking.'"
Agree, the past 5 or so months of uncertainty must have been really difficult for the players. Why any of them would want to further jeapordise their futures with unnecessary social gatherings just baffles me and the RFLs lack of a tough stance is just infuriating when you look at the strictness of just about every other sport and competition. The sooner this season is over the better.
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Good point, you are correct Hull has very low levels, even Corona doesnt want to visit us
We do have a large West Yorkshire contingent at the club who travel in, unsure if they still car share or not in the crisis.
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Good point, you are correct Hull has very low levels, even Corona doesnt want to visit us
We do have a large West Yorkshire contingent at the club who travel in, unsure if they still car share or not in the crisis.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Agree that the players should be staying home, its their career and the sport is at risk so a few months sacrifice shouldent be a hardship for them.
However its judgemental to just assume players went to the pub and caught it. Super League announced on Friday that all tests were negative, it seems symtoms show 2-14 days after infection, so it could be the players had it but the test missed it or they only had it at low levels. They could have caught it on game day, on the coach, at the supermarket on their way home, or pretty much anywhere...we wont ever know.
Surely our game gets called off this weekend, from a competitioj point of view we are 6 players down, from a health point of view if I was a Cas player or ref I wouldent want to be anywhere near the FC squad!'"
Surely the games of the teams who played after Hull Fc will need to be postponed as well given they will have used the same changing rooms? The main reason why playing all games at the same stadium for each round is absolutely ludicrous.
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| Quote ="MPhil12"Surely the games of the teams who played after Hull Fc will need to be postponed as well given they will have used the same changing rooms? The main reason why playing all games at the same stadium for each round is absolutely ludicrous.'"
I think Headingley's multiple dressing rooms where used, but not 100%, but you are right the all games at venue idea may need a rethink. Had this game been at the KCOM or AJ Bell it would only be Hull and Salford theyd need to isoltate and worry about.
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| Hull FC and Salford used the main RL changing rooms, which were extensively cleaned whilst the Wakefield v Wigan game was on. Wakefield and Wigan used the south stand changing rooms. Leeds and St Helens then used the main changing rooms.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Hull FC and Salford used the main RL changing rooms, which were extensively cleaned whilst the Wakefield v Wigan game was on. Wakefield and Wigan used the south stand changing rooms. Leeds and St Helens then used the main changing rooms.'"
Fair enough but I imagine you still couldn’t rule out the possibility of transmission happening? Just seems completely daft to all be playing at the same stadium and sums up the carefree attitude towards to the situation which is ridiculous given we’ve had 5 months without any games. Also, I could be wrong but don’t the Totally wicked stadium and Halliwell Jones stadium both only have two changing rooms? Potentially having 5 teams all being in the same changing room 24 hours apart just seems daft, even if they are cleaned in between.
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| Quote ="MPhil12"Indeed, so far I’ve seen Blake Austin think it acceptable to mix with thousands outside of Anfield, Jackson Hastings put his weekly p*ss up all over instagram, Brad Dwyer similar and clearly some idiot at Hull FC has broken social distancing guidelines as well. Idiotic and selfish, I’m sure there are plenty of other examples as well. Until the RFL (and clubs themselves) take a tougher stance and issue fines to players at fault then there’ll be plenty more positive tests. I’d go as far as to say Hull should be fined for the postponements that will have to follow. How hard can it be for players to behave for three months and clubs to keep them under control?'"
And you have no evidence whatsoever to substantiate any of that regarding the Hull players, half our team is diagnosed with this deadly virus, which could have been contracted anywhere that’s contagion mate. Try to show a little sympathy with these lads and their families, before spouting your Neanderthal parochial biases.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Hull FC and Salford used the main RL changing rooms, which were extensively cleaned whilst the Wakefield v Wigan game was on. Wakefield and Wigan used the south stand changing rooms. Leeds and St Helens then used the main changing rooms.'" that's just the changing rooms, when your dealing with something you can't see who's to say it's outside of the changing rooms and can be picked up else where it's a nightmare.
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| Quote ="MPhil12"Indeed, so far I’ve seen Blake Austin think it acceptable to mix with thousands outside of Anfield, Jackson Hastings put his weekly p*ss up all over instagram, Brad Dwyer similar and clearly some idiot at Hull FC has broken social distancing guidelines as well. Idiotic and selfish, I’m sure there are plenty of other examples as well. Until the RFL (and clubs themselves) take a tougher stance and issue fines to players at fault then there’ll be plenty more positive tests. I’d go as far as to say Hull should be fined for the postponements that will have to follow. How hard can it be for players to behave for three months and clubs to keep them under control?'"
Stop finger pointing. You have absolutely no idea how this could have infected the camp. You've gone to instant blame. It could have literally come from anywhere, even family members passing it on.
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| If only Hull players have caught the virus, would that mean that they caught it after leaving Headingley, just a thought.
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It's almost irrelevant where the players are living.
How they are behaving socially is of far more importance here.
If players are still out on the lash, the chances of infection seem massively higher than if they are in some kind of "bubble".
However, as others have said, footballers weren't exactly keeping away from the rest of the world but, if there is to be any chance of the season getting to the end, clubs and players are going to have to impose some very tight restrictions (assuming that they haven't already).
Remember, it only takes one or two to go "rogue" and the whole job will be screwed.
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It's almost irrelevant where the players are living.
How they are behaving socially is of far more importance here.
If players are still out on the lash, the chances of infection seem massively higher than if they are in some kind of "bubble".
However, as others have said, footballers weren't exactly keeping away from the rest of the world but, if there is to be any chance of the season getting to the end, clubs and players are going to have to impose some very tight restrictions (assuming that they haven't already).
Remember, it only takes one or two to go "rogue" and the whole job will be screwed.
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| Think that's the season well and truly over now.
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| First thought is hope all recover. Then hope Salford arent similarly affected. Entirely possible FC may just have detected it quicker? Because we are seeing football and cricket players breaking rules it can lead to presumption similar has happened here. I'd wait for the facts but work on the principle we are all in this together and hope it's just an unfortunate circumstance the virus got in their bubble/s.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"Think that's the season well and truly over now.'"
Yep nice one Hull. Can we not throw them out the competition and have an even number of teams again?
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Total speculation and likely trying to cause racial disharmony on a RL forum . IGNORE.
It is not where the players live, it is what they do and who they meet. They need to be isolated throughout.
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Total speculation and likely trying to cause racial disharmony on a RL forum . IGNORE.
It is not where the players live, it is what they do and who they meet. They need to be isolated throughout.
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| Whos to say a hull player picked it up at Tesco when he was doing his weekly shop and unwittingly spread it?
Think its a bit harsh to get the pick forks out just yet
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| How do we know it started from a Hull player? The only way that can be guaranteed for sure is if Salford tests come back negative, which shows that Hull players were mingling with non-players socially on Sunday night after the game and before the went to the training ground on the Monday.
Hull has one of the lowest infection rates in the UK. Salford are based in one of the largest areas for infection in the UK with local lockdowns in place close to them. Maybe we have detected it because our testing was Monday and Salford's was Tuesday? Perhaps it was Ryan Lannon who had it first, and passed it when he gave Josh Griffin a facial across his nose and mouth during the match, and Griffin gave it o Jordan Johnstone and Josh Bowden on Sunday night?
All hypothetical's, and what if's. End of the day, we don't know where it came from, who had it first and the potential effect it can have on the season and the sport. All I know is that I wish the players involved a speedy recovery and they get back fit soon
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| Good men and women have died, sometimes struggling and dying in pain and solitude due to this plague from Asia, god knows I don’t want to play the forum police, but some posters need to evaluate their contributions on this serious matter.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"How do we know it started from a Hull player? The only way that can be guaranteed for sure is if Salford tests come back negative, which shows that Hull players were mingling with non-players socially on Sunday night after the game and before the went to the training ground on the Monday.
Hull has one of the lowest infection rates in the UK. Salford are based in one of the largest areas for infection in the UK with local lockdowns in place close to them. Maybe we have detected it because our testing was Monday and Salford's was Tuesday? Perhaps it was Ryan Lannon who had it first, and passed it when he gave Josh Griffin a facial across his nose and mouth during the match, and Griffin gave it o Jordan Johnstone and Josh Bowden on Sunday night?
All hypothetical's, and what if's. End of the day, we don't know where it came from, who had it first and the potential effect it can have on the season and the sport. All I know is that I wish the players involved a speedy recovery and they get back fit soon
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According to Jenna Brooks on Twitter, all Salford players' tests came back negative. However, 11 of the players now need to self isolate for 14 days after coming into contact with the infected Hull players. As previously said, we don't know where/how the Hull players have caught the virus, it could easily have been brought home by a player's wife then transmitted at training so stupid and naive put the blame on the Hull players directly.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Whos to say a hull player picked it up at Tesco when he was doing his weekly shop and unwittingly spread it?
Think its a bit harsh to get the pick forks out just yet'"
If the procedures under which SL has restarted allow players (and other members of their households, to go out shopping, and seemingly to pubs judging by posts on SM, then they really aren't fit for purpose.
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"If the procedures under which SL has restarted allow players (and other members of their households, to go out shopping, and seemingly to pubs judging by posts on SM, then they really aren't fit for purpose.'"
Are players Wives, Girlfriends, Boyfriends etc. not permitted to go to work either? Our players don't earn enough for their partner not to work, or get a live in Nanny etc for childcare. There is only so much they can do to protect themselves. Daily testing needed to be a priority
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| Adam Pearson has just been on the radio. He said that initially, they think that it has come from a player's young newborn baby, who had to be admitted to hospital. The player had some rehab on an injury on Saturday which looks like it passed to a physio, and gone from there.
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| I think the RFL/Superleague need to take a tougher stance on what is expected of the players. I’ve just read a young Cricketer from Kent has been stood down for a game and told to isolate after taking a selfie with a fan, after he’d just scored 200+ runs in an innings. The kid is 19, had just put in the performance of his life and in the elation forgets himself and takes a picture with a fan and that’s how tough the sport will be on them. You compare that to us and it’s laughable really. Players out on the lash, players at football clubs fans mass gatherings to celebrate trophy wins/promotions and so on. The players have been great in taking pay cuts across the board but as a collective I think this new players Union really needs to get them all in zoom meetings and the like and discuss just how serious this situation could be if they don’t make more sacrifices.
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