In comparison with these two, Leighton Samuel doesn't seem like such a bad feller after all... www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-w ... -25791183/ and here's the response on the Crusaders' site... www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=842 further reading - the Daily Mirror story... www.mirror.co.uk/advice/archive/ ... _page.html

In comparison with these two, Leighton Samuel doesn't seem like such a bad feller after all... www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-w ... -25791183/ and here's the response on the Crusaders' site... www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=842 further reading - the Daily Mirror story... www.mirror.co.uk/advice/archive/ ... _page.html

Sounds like just the characters you want at a RL club! Seriously what is Moss thinking employing those two?

They are obviously good at what they do....which I will add, has yet to be shown to be illegal. That said, morally, I don't know why anyone would touch them with a 10 foot barge pole.......

The statement from Crusaders covers the clubs butts and I would expect a mutual parting of the ways in the near future.

Quote ="gutterfax"They are obviously good at what they do....which I will add, has yet to be shown to be illegal. That said, morally, I don't know why anyone would touch them with a 10 foot barge pole....... The statement from Crusaders covers the clubs butts and I would expect a mutual parting of the ways in the near future.'" Lisa Colford is the financial controller of Wrexham FC. Given that they are sharing personnel with the Crusaders, and indeed Mr Moss's defence of the pair appeared on the RL club's website, the following is of some concern... www.gov-news.org/gov/uk/news/cha ... 34974.html "The Managing Director Mrs Jeannette Walker, a former credit controller of Barrington House was unable to answer many of the questions put to her by investigators and was reliant on consultant and self employed accountant Lisa Colford, the former company secretary of Barrington House." "The accounting records of both companies were at best inaccurate and at worst misleading with many repostings, undocumented loans and consultants paid on account without any invoices to account for the payments. Both companies appeared to be insolvent owing VAT and PAYE of over £250,000."

Quote ="gutterfax"They are obviously good at what they do....which I will add, has yet to be shown to be illegal. That said, morally, I don't know why anyone would touch them with a 10 foot barge pole....... The statement from Crusaders covers the clubs butts and I would expect a mutual parting of the ways in the near future.'" Lisa Colford is the financial controller of Wrexham FC. Given that they are sharing personnel with the Crusaders, and indeed Mr Moss's defence of the pair appeared on the RL club's website, the following is of some concern... www.gov-news.org/gov/uk/news/cha ... 34974.html "The Managing Director Mrs Jeannette Walker, a former credit controller of Barrington House was unable to answer many of the questions put to her by investigators and was reliant on consultant and self employed accountant Lisa Colford, the former company secretary of Barrington House." "The accounting records of both companies were at best inaccurate and at worst misleading with many repostings, undocumented loans and consultants paid on account without any invoices to account for the payments. Both companies appeared to be insolvent owing VAT and PAYE of over £250,000."

They sound similar to an organisation that scammed money from the "donating" companies too. They would ring up asking for a purchase order number saying the artwork for your entry in the wallplanner/directory just needs confirming, and thanks for helping the kids. Obviously in the hope that whoever dealt with the call would assume someone else in the organisation had agreed to it and since it was for charity it must be ok right?

They nearly got me with that one as I'd just joined a small company and assumed that the previous incumbant has agreed to it. After a while I got another call, same thing, except this time I knew I would have been the person to authorise it and I hadn't. So I never paid the invoice for the first one which was £350+vat.

I guess that's how you get to earn £170K per year.

I dont think this will affect crusaders at all but could affect other clubs because the rfl would probably throw even more money at them in order to keep them afloat as a counterbalance

'Even more' than what, my little Fax troll?

Shirley it's common knowledge* that the RFL are paying the salaries of Messrs Noble / Harris / Turner & co.

Just as they funded Steve McCormack at Gateshead last year.

Actually Craig Spence did help clear the pitch of snow the other week. And time is money...


* by "common knowledge" of course I mean wild, unsubstantiated rumour.

Best theory of the year so far

Can't see it affecting us.

He has no financial difficulties and is only looking to pull out of involvement with the football club due to abuse from the football fans.

Sounds like something Ken Bates would be proud of!

The RFL advanced Crusaders their TV money.

Link please
By the way, it is common knowledge that the RFL don't have any money to give Crusaders.....because they have been giving us £1,000,000,000,000 every week since 1980 to prop up London RL. They raised these funds by closing the pits, closing hospitals and selling cheap drugs to kids on street corners.
You are Fox Mulder and I claim ANOTHER £5 (coz we need every penny down here)

I'd agree with this point , as for the rest , only partly true

If the RFL had any big money to give to Crusaders wouldn't they have used it to keep us in South Wales where the majority of the emerging youth were playing?

The truth is we had to move to survive.

Welcome to the Club Bud

It has worked really well for the Fulbroncrusaderquins

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Quote ="Waketrin Wild"[url=http://www.redpassion.co.uk/forums/wrexham/44885-wrexham-football-club-2006-ltd-documents-2.htmlMore Welsh sports fans upset[/url'" A remarkable item here on the Wrexham FC site in which they spark off a witch hunt for a Red Passion messageboard user who has been stirring up trouble with, amongst others, the RFL and Greene King. Surely Moss and his fellow board members must have realised there would be repercussions from hiring Garside and Colford? www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/page/NewsDe ... 64,00.html

Quote ="Waketrin Wild"[url=http://www.redpassion.co.uk/forums/wrexham/44885-wrexham-football-club-2006-ltd-documents-2.htmlMore Welsh sports fans upset[/url'" A remarkable item here on the Wrexham FC site in which they spark off a witch hunt for a Red Passion messageboard user who has been stirring up trouble with, amongst others, the RFL and Greene King. Surely Moss and his fellow board members must have realised there would be repercussions from hiring Garside and Colford? www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/page/NewsDe ... 64,00.html

2 things.
Noble IS being paid directly by the RFL. He would not have joined the Crusaders unless his wages were guaranteed and Leighton Samuel is a known "dodgy geezer".

It now appears Moss is cut from the same cloth as Samuel. HE was always reading things on forums and threatening to leave. Crusaders fans would do well to be concerned by Moss' capriciousness towards WFC supporters. If he ditches the football club, many of the people who might have supported both clubs will boycott the Crusaders. Believe me. I've seen this before. P155 off the supporters and you're on a highway to Hull!

Linky please? I have no doubt you belive this to be tru but the rest of us would like some proof before forming an opinion.

I posted links to the Totalrl.com forum at the time. I'll see if I can find them, it's not an easy subject to google.

Sorry. "Insider information", word of mouth. I can't provide written proof.

But acknowledging this, I will amend my statement to: Noble WAS paid directly by the RFL when at CELTIC Crusaders. Don't know if that's still the case.

Unfortunately it's only word of mouth so I cannot prove it. That does not however, make it any less true. Just unprovable.

No, it makes it completely unsubstantiated rumour