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| Quote ="The Avenger"Farnworth is Johnstone’s biggest rival for the left wing!
If Herbie doesn’t get selected at Centre I can see Wane playing him on the left wing for his height (6’3”) size (17st) and pace (3rd fastest in the NRL)
Whilst predominantly now a centre Farnworth also played very effectively at Full Back and Wing during his stint in the juniors at Brisbane so he offers good cover across the back line.'"
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| Farnworth missed today's match for the Broncos. Probably a good one to miss vs Souths.
Percival never seemed to be rated by Bennett - what are his chances of getting in the side?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Farnworth missed today's match for the Broncos. Probably a good one to miss vs Souths.
Percival never seemed to be rated by Bennett - what are his chances of getting in the side?'"
I've always thought that Percival's defence was poor and that is what kept him out the side. He played one game and got peppered and never seemed to get back in the side after that.
If he's fit though I think he has to be in contention and I'd rather play two out and out centres than lose Bateman from the pack.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Didn't realise Farnworth was that size? He looks smaller on TV, maybe his teammates are even bigger, Coates is massive.'"
Hard to know really. I know the SL ones are definitely wrong as I'm taller than some players who are listed as taller than me.
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| That kick back inside for Lino was class
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| Out for a month again!
Bloke obviously has talent but his body is unable to keep up with the rigours of playing week in week out.
Sad to say i think its time for him to seriously consider if his time in the sport needs to come to an end.
Not fair on Wakey to be paying him the big money for them to keep getting less than half a season out of him.
He needs to decide if ts time to put his health first. Are all these injuries worth the long time damage to his body
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| Due to the reasoning behind him being stood down for 4 weeks I think you’ve got to say well done to Wakefield from a player welfare point of view - they’ve done the right thing so hats off to them. Can’t be easy, especially when you are struggling for wins, to make the decision to stand your best player down. Tom must be gutted to be out again. Super League does need X Factor players like him but, as RagingBull has said, does he need to start thinking about the long term effects on his body?
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Out for a month again!
Bloke obviously has talent but his body is unable to keep up with the rigours of playing week in week out.
Sad to say i think its time for him to seriously consider if his time in the sport needs to come to an end.
Not fair on Wakey to be paying him the big money for them to keep getting less than half a season out of him.
He needs to decide if ts time to put his health first. Are all these injuries worth the long time damage to his body'" think its a bit over board on the retirement scene but yes well done on the club to extend his time off the field for a bit
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Out for a month again!
Bloke obviously has talent but his body is unable to keep up with the rigours of playing week in week out.
Sad to say i think its time for him to seriously consider if his time in the sport needs to come to an end.
Not fair on Wakey to be paying him the big money for them to keep getting less than half a season out of him.
He needs to decide if ts time to put his health first. Are all these injuries worth the long time damage to his body'"
Are you for real.
Comparing ACL injuries to being out with concussion.
Maybe you should try doing your own day job with either of these injuries
The ACL injuries are completely different to concussion "events". However, getting concussion in consecutive games is not good at all and being stood down for 4 weeks is exactly right.
Certainly the right decision for the player and you do wonder if he should have played in the cup game, it seemed to be a tad too soon.
Lets hope the lad is ok.
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| Chester had no right to play him against Catalans considering he went off the week before.
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| Good decision by Wakey but a real concern that a talented player has got potential concussion injuries like this. Was the one the week before due to foul play.
There should be a zero tolerance to head shots and the game has to change quickly . Need to go back to tackling around the legs not the hit them high and wrap the ball up type of tackles.
One of the few things where we are behind RU in my opinion.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"[uGood decision by Wakey[/u but a real concern that a talented player has got potential concussion injuries like this. Was the one the week before due to foul play.
There should be a zero tolerance to head shots and the game has to change quickly . Need to go back to tackling around the legs not the hit them high and wrap the ball up type of tackles.
One of the few things where we are behind RU in my opinion.'"
Was it though or did they they take the decision on the advice of the ruling body.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Good decision by Wakey but a real concern that a talented player has got potential concussion injuries like this. Was the one the week before due to foul play.
There should be a zero tolerance to head shots and the game has to change quickly . Need to go back to tackling around the legs not the hit them high and wrap the ball up type of tackles.
One of the few things where we are behind RU in my opinion.'"
First one was a head shot albeit accidentally, second he fell awkwardly in the attempt of scoring a try. Nothing to do with rigours of the game, a pre-caution after two concussions practically with a week.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Good decision by Wakey but a real concern that a talented player has got potential concussion injuries like this. Was the one the week before due to foul play.
There should be a zero tolerance to head shots and the game has to change quickly . Need to go back to tackling around the legs not the hit them high and wrap the ball up type of tackles.
One of the few things where we are behind RU in my opinion.'"
Don't know if concussion needs it's own thread, but you are correct we are behind RU at present. Logically though, what RU are doing will drive what we have to do as well. And the link between the 2 sports is insurance.
The insurers will be saying to RU, well you are taking measures to reduce risk going forwards, penalising head contact harshly, looking at changing the way the game works to minimise head to head tackles etc. Due the the significant liability though, we will have to increase premiums by 50%
Now, RL, you're not doing these things that RU is doing. But we're a different sport say the RFL. Insurers, well, not from where we're sitting - rugby ball, high tackles, punching. Liability is less than RU going forwards, but you're not publically doing all the preventative things that RU is doing so 200% premium increase for RL. Have a nice day.
Due to the relative difference in financial footprints of the 2 codes and the small pool of specialist sports insurers, this will be one area where we will have to follow RU lead I think. And the lever will be money, as always.
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| Quote ="happyjack"Was it though or did they they take the decision on the advice of the ruling body.'"
No, the decision to give Tom a break has come from within the club after consulting with medical specialist on the situation.
Hope this is a good enough explanation for you.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"No, the decision to give Tom a break has come from within the club after consulting with medical specialist on the situation.
Hope this is a good enough explanation for you.'"
Certainly is and thanks for that, I just wondered if they had been advised by the RFL or super league, no harm done, at least somebody is looking after the players welfare.
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| Quote ="happyjack"Certainly is and thanks for that, I just wondered if they had been advised by the RFL or super league, no harm done, at least somebody is looking after the players welfare.'"
[url=https://secure.rugby-league.com/ign_docs/143545%20RFL%20Medical%20Standards%202020%20Web.pdfMedical standards 2020[/url
Here's what all clubs and club Doctors are following. A whole section - section E is for concussion.
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| Injured again.
Makes Manfredi look like Iron Man.
Think its time he called it a day for his own longterm wellbeing
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| He's out for 6 weeks, hardly comparable.
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| Quote ="Highlander"Don't know if concussion needs it's own thread, but you are correct we are behind RU at present. Logically though, what RU are doing will drive what we have to do as well. And the link between the 2 sports is insurance.
The insurers will be saying to RU, well you are taking measures to reduce risk going forwards, penalising head contact harshly, looking at changing the way the game works to minimise head to head tackles etc. Due the the significant liability though, we will have to increase premiums by 50%
Now, RL, you're not doing these things that RU is doing. But we're a different sport say the RFL. Insurers, well, not from where we're sitting - rugby ball, high tackles, punching. Liability is less than RU going forwards, but you're not publically doing all the preventative things that RU is doing so 200% premium increase for RL. Have a nice day.
Due to the relative difference in financial footprints of the 2 codes and the small pool of specialist sports insurers, this will be one area where we will have to follow RU lead I think. And the lever will be money, as always.'"
Interesting post. However is it the case that that at this point in time Insurers are actually paying out on claims from Rugby and Football players, Very sensitive subject I know. Often the medical problems players have are suspected as being down to their sport, but not proven 100%?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"He's out for 6 weeks, hardly comparable.'"
Not yet, but he’s getting there sadly.
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| Aaaaaaand hes injured again.
Said it before hes body just isnt up to the rigours of beeing a professional.
Time to call it a day Tom and think of the long term health implications. At the end of the day its a game and your family is more important.
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| Whatever happens with Johnstone, it’s sad to see him injured again and the continuing troubles he’s having. As a country we need all the top class players we can get, especially outside backs as entertaining as Johnstone. We lost one in Manfredi and I have everything crossed Johnstone doesn’t go the same way.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Whatever happens with Johnstone, it’s sad to see him injured again and the continuing troubles he’s having. As a country we need all the top class players we can get, especially outside backs as entertaining as Johnstone. We lost one in Manfredi and I have everything crossed Johnstone doesn’t go the same way.'"
He's being rested due to being knocked out vs Hudds. Not an injury as such but not worth risking in last 2 games.
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| Just to add he's been given the all clear to play, but as above he'd had three concussion's this year so his welfare is more important, have a long off season with his young child and come back next year refreshed, and hopefully free of the aftereffects of banging his head on the floor pretty damn hard.
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