Ever heard of multiple accounts, Rolfie?

Cant see us (Leigh) making to top 8.
Our first 5 fixtures are really really tough, and winning just 1 of these would be a milestone alone !!
I cannot see us finishing bottom, and hopefully a few packed houses in our first few games may result in a couple of close wins.
Survival the Key, and grow next year.

This is another topic you've tried to derail, is it because your team won't win nothing again? Laughing stock of RL & an embarrassment to our city.

You're the embarrassment. I enquired as to whether you have been banned, again, from the Hull KR board. Your predictable response was to hurl insults.

Jesus Christ, grow up both of you and take it somewhere else.

It really has become quite tedious hasn't it.





If he'd lambasted the double negative I'd have been more sympathetic though.

WCC - Cronulla by 8-10

SL

1. Warrington
2. Wigan
3. Saints
4. Leeds
5. Hull
6. Castleford
7. Catalans
8. Leigh
9. Salford
10. Huddersfield
11. Widnes
12. Wakefield

GF - Wigan bt Leeds
CC - Saints bt Wire

Leeds will be back in top 6 in 2017.

Salford may struggle to break top 8 this year even though they should have done last year. Koukash is tightening his belt with finances isn't he?

Hudds? No idea. Think they'll struggle more than Salford.

Leigh might just manage the top 8.

Wakey have done some decent recruitment, Widnes haven't.

I reckon bottom four will be Hudds, Widnes, Salford and either Wakey or Leigh. None of them will be as strong in mid 8s as this year.

I'm hoping we come straight back up, of course, but all depends on the mentality Sheens as a coach can instill into the players, as the squad is good enough on paper to beat most of the teams I've predicted for the bottom four. Mental strength and game management is what let us down in the MPG.

Whilst I have no idea where we will finish, (maybe near the top until the usual points deduction destroys us) it's a little disappointing to see the usual suspects predicted to be in the basement, and the same old at the top, whereas no doubt in Aus Cronulla will likely be near the bottom with the Roosters and Eels back near the top.

One competition exciting, the other as dull as dishwater.

1. Saints
2. Wigan
3. Hull
4. Castleford
5. Leeds
6. Catalans
7. Warrington
8. Leigh
9. Salford
10. Widnes
11. Wakefield
12. Huddersfield

GF - Wigan
CC - Wigan

Regards

King James

I see Leeds have replaced Hardaker with Golding, and haven't signed a new halfback. I can only see them scraping into the top 8.

They have the second best centre in the world though. They will be reet

Regards

King James

I was going to ask him what he thought we were going to win but, he wouldn't have got it.

Depressing thing is, most of that will be pretty much correct.

I guess the lure of Leeds being Champions has enticed you into the cult of William.

You'll be lobbying for the attendance thread to be resurrected next.

The thing for Leeds isn't new players, it's the pre-season. We normally come back to pre-season 7 weeks before New Year, last year it was only 4 weeks because we stuck around to play New Zealand on top of what was already arguably the most physically and mentally draining season any team has had in recent memory. Then factor in time lost after Boxing Day with the floods then we were probably around 5 weeks or more down on our normal length of pre-season. That's why we looked unfit, incohesive and the senior players who had the shortest pre-season as they come back a bit later were picking up injuries and struggling with form.

No coincidence that we started to win when we returned to our training ground and with the team hell bent on making amends for what happened this year then I think people may be caught off guard at just how high we climb back up the table. Anybody who thinks Leeds will only be able to squeeze into the top 8 at best are going to be way off.

It's commendable that you blame nearly all last years woes on the training ground issue, I'm sure there are many who can think of additional reasons. Come on, don't be shy, there's endless pages of it!

As to the prediction of a top eight position, I'll give you that one.

Leeds will be top 4 again next year. As questionable as their squad seems to have become, you can't keep a team with a champion mentality down.

Plus, there aren't 4 better teams in SL next year.

Wigan Warrington St Helens and Hiull there's 4 better teams than Leeds

I suggest that Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Hull, and arguably Castleford all have a stronger squad than Leeds. Add to the fact that you clearly can keep a squad with a "champion mentality" down as proven last season when they were kept down. Leeds couldn't even manage to get through the Middle 8s unbeaten - something even Hull KR managed the season before.

Wigan
Warrington
Saints
Hull
Leeds
Castleford
Catalans
Widnes
Huddersfield
Salford
Leigh
Wakefield

Can,t see much change in the top 4, reckon Hull will still be the top dogs in Yorkshire. Strength in depth will probably be the key when the long injury spells kick in..
There doesn't seem to be any directives from the RFL to improve the speed of the game, so we can expect some slow, low intensity games with the usual inconsistency of officials..........we just have to wait and see.

McDermott's record isn't great for the regular season. Some below top 4 endings rescued by a cup run to the final. A league leaders shield won on the back of the retirement of one last big effort for Sinfield and Peacock. A bottom 4 position. It is hard to say that Leeds's regular season efforts in the last few years have ever been that good and consistent. They were good, however, at a backs to the wall cup-run situation because players like Sinfield knew how to stay patient and win. Those players aren't there anymore, and the new system might catch Leeds out.

Leeds might find themselves stuck in a few years of mid-season mediocrity.

I think when you factor in the possibility of Mags, JJB, Burrow and Ablett being a bit more age related injury prone then that spine of mental toughness has disappeared. In saying that the quality of super league is not good which will mean an extensive run of wins will keep a club in and around the top 4.

Only for half a season and even then we picked up wins vs the likes of Hull and Saints. When then had the joint best run to finish the regular season off with 5 wins from 6. I wonder how many teams would've beaten Hull away and then Wigan back to back AFTER they were confirmed as being in the Middle 8's? Wonder what other clubs would've done if they had a 5 weeks shorter pre-season?



We didn't need to by that point as we'd already qualified and losing narrowly to Hudds (who desperately needed to win) with only 1 fit sub left in the 2nd half isn't exactly evidence as to how we'll struggle in 2017. Otherwise I could point out that Castleford, Hull and Warrington all lost at Hudds too, the latter got nilled.

Nope, Cas beat Huddersfield both times.