1. Tomkins
2. McGilvary
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
6. Widdopp
7. Hodgkinson
8. Graham
9. Hodgson
10. G Burgess
11. Cooper
12. Westwood
13. S Burgess

14. Roby/Clarke
15. Hill
16. Whitehead
17. O'Loughlin

Moon??

That's a laughable 17.

Let's not okay foreigners, Hill on the bench, Cooper and Westwood as back rowers and SOL on the
Bench.

He is the best centre out of those that qualify for England.

Tomkins
McGilvery
Watkins
?
Hall
Brown
Gale
Graham
Hodgson
Gurges
Whithead
Flanders
Surges

Roby
Currie
Hill
Turges/Taylor/Cooper

Dependant on if your picking your team on this years form or based over the last 3 years . Josh Hodgsons had one good year and people are making him out to be the next Can Smith , wouldn't even say he's the best Englishman at the raiders

01. Jamie Shaul.
02. Ryan Hall.
03. Kallum Watkins
04. John Bateman.
05. Jermaine McGilvray.
06. Luke Gale.
07. Mark Sneyd.
08. Chris Hill.
09. Danny Houghton.
10. Scott Taylor.
11. Joe Westerman.
12. Ben Currie.
13. Sean O'Loughlin.

I am seriously at a loss for quality centres based on this year, or most years inf act. Watkins is only in there for what he COULD do and I literally had to move Bateman out of second row and into the centre spot because nobody else could do a job there as well as he could OUT of position. I'll also get called out for the inclusion of that whole back row but they are all big, tough defensive players with fantastic hands with the ball, so I don't see a weakness there at all. Bear in mind this team is selected off of no knowledge of the NRL this year. I'd rather put in players I've watched than names who are plying their trade elsewhere.

Well, Hodgson and the Raiders came up against Cam Smith the other week. And who had the last laugh then?

We are blessed with some fine hookers right now but imo there isn't even a debate who should be getting the 9 shirt this autumn.

Like I said ONE good season . do you think he's Better than Cam Smith ?
Iirc Smith is well clear of him in the Daily M too

My question was are we picking the team on this seasons form ? If so its 100% Hodgson and Houghton , if its over the last 3 years its a different story

I don't get this whole, there are no good centres so we have to pick a 2nd rower from Wigan/Wire etc.
There's Atkins, Sarginson,Percival, Cudjoe, Yeaman, who could probably still do a decent job there, also the likes of Josh Griffin, Josh Jones, Ratchford, Gildart, who are all capable of playing centre at a fairly high level.

Whether you like these players or whether you rate them as top class or not, they are still a better option than playing a forward there i would have thought?

No, that's the thing. They just aren't. Sure, Atkins has had a good season but he's a confidence player and as soon as things don't go right he'll capitulate. Gildhart I would perhaps take a chance on. But the rest of them at the top level to me is laughable. Griffin and Jones? Never. Ratchford doesn't know how to pass a ball unless he's ran down a blind alley and holding the ball in one hand like he does would see the Aussies crucify him. Sarginson is sh*t. Percival has been injured for much of the season and I haven't seen enough for him to warrant a tilt at the spot. Cudjoe neither. Yeaman, for me, has been so so as usual and is being swept along by the teams success rather than really contributing all that much to it. Bateman is a better player at centre than at least half of those players you listed.

Let's agree to disagree then, i would rather have Cudjoe, Percival or Atkins over Bateman at centre, keep Bateman in the middle where he causes more damage!

Lomax
Hall
Percival
Watkins
Burgess
Williams
Sneyd
Hill
Hodgson
Burgess
Farrell
Whitehead
Burgess

Currie
Clark
Walasley
Taylor

Biggest Wigan fan going but SOL hasn't been international class this year

They are also, first and foremost, English.

We won't have a clue until he picks it really will we?? But I reckon for those having a go, don't overcomplicate it too much; pick Englishmen, pick them in their rightful positions, don't worry too much about how they played 3 years ago or may possibly play in the future, pick the best players that give us the best chance of winning & let's hope he does the same

True and that usually is the first criteria someone would have to meet to play for England, sod the residency stuff!

When it comes to hooker, it depends on the strategy you want to use.

You could pick Hodgson and Clarke who could interchange and add that explosiveness around the ruck, but on the flip side use a bench spot.

Or you could pick Houghton, who is an 80 minute player, and give that bench spot to an extra forward.

I suspect they'll do the former over the latter as both have played internationally before and allows that "back up" element if things aren't going well (change it up if one is off their game or picks up a knock).

To be fair to Hodgson, he does 80 minutes as well, it just happens that sometimes some of that time is at loose forward.

I agree with you though Clark is the only one that makes sense to come off the bench.

Also Danny Houghton is extremely unlucky to be knocking around when we are seeming fly spoilt for choice at his position. For me he would be 2nd choice behind Hodgson if we were to just go the one hooker approach.

As usual I've changed my mind as many times as I've had hot dinners. The position I'm having most trouble with is #6.

Tomkins

Hall
Percival
Watkins
McGilvray

Williams
Gale

Graham
Hodgeson
Hill
Bateman
Currie
S Burgess

G Burgess
Walmsley
Whitehead
Clark

Ratchford
Cudjoe
Briscoe
Widdop
Houghton
Taylor
Amor
Farrell

Tomkins
McGilvery
Currie
Atkins
Burgess
Widdop
Gale
Graham
Hodgeson
Hill
Whitehead
S Burgess
Cooper

Clarke
Green
Walmsley
G Burgess

I do find it amazing how Hull are top of the league and have just won the cup and yet still don't apparently have any players worthy of being in the best 17 in this country in the eyes of many.

Haven't you noticed, we are only where we are because the standard is so low this year and everyone we beat didnt play well on the day

George Williams did not perform well at all last year against the Kiwis, we were much better with Matty Smith in the side.

As for those against picking players not born in England. Austrialia, New Zealand and Scotland will all pick players through residency and through parent/grandparent heritage. Why should we not do the same? It's not like were the best team and need to give the others a chance by penalising ourselves. I am sure Wayne Bennett will agree and pick the best team possible.