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| Quote ="gutterfax"It's a good map.'"
It's about as good and convincing as your claim that you were once an influential guy in the London Broncos club scene.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"It's about as good and convincing as your claim that you were once an influential guy in the London Broncos club scene.'"
Never claimed anything of the sort......but you know that
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Never claimed anything of the sort......but you know that'"
Of course you didn't
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Of course you didn't
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Link to it then? Good luck with that...
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| I remember Carl fogarty not getting a look in after his 4th world superbike title.
If the sport doesn't fit in with the bbc way you have no chance..
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| From the Daily Mail [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2871286/Sam-Burgess-snub-Sports-Personality-Year-joke-BBC-British-viewing-public-don-t-clue.htmlRUGBY UNION SECTION[/url
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| I think a better map would be one that showed all of the RU and RL clubs, irrespective of grade as that would be more representative of interest.
A map of the football premiership is hardly one that shows a well distributed sport, London, M62 Corridor, Birmingham and Newcastle with Southampton and Swansea there too. Just one team south of Crystal Palace. A line from London to Hull hit's no other teams.
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| Lizzy Yarnold. Gold Medal at the winter OLYMPICS..only the 10th ever gold for GB. BBC covers the Olympics.
Max Whitlock. Multi medal winning gymnast, including Commonwealth, WORLD Champs and European games..all covered by the BBC
Adam Peaty. Commonwealth golds, 4 European Golds and a WORLD record.
Jo Pavey. Oldest ever Gold medal winner at the EUROPEAN championships
Rory McIlroy. WORLDS best golfer who won 2 of the 4 biggest tournaments in the WORLD.
Lewis Hamilton. WORLD CHAMPION
Kelly Gallagher & Charlotte Evans. First ever British winners of Gold at the WINTER PARALYMPICS
Carl Froch: WORLD CHAMPION
Charlotte Dujardin: The first British equestrian rider to be OLYMPIC, WORLD AND EUROPEAN champion at the same time.
Gareth Bale: The most expensive football player in the WORLD.
Of all of the above, only Gareth Bale should consider himself fortunate to be nominated and I doubt he'd be there at all if it weren't for Wales qualifiers (were they even shown on the BBC?)......the rest are all at the top of their sports globally, sports that are contended or played by more than 3 nations at the top level.
The Olympics, World and European Athletics, PGA tour, Formula one, Paralympics and Commonwealth games are all competitions involving dozens of nationalities, represented by people born in the countries they represent.
Sam Burgess played no international sport in 2014 and domestically, he played in a foreign competition not shown on the BBC. The Rugby league that is shown on the BBC contains either challenge cup games featuring teams from a single motorway corridor and a token French club, or a highlights show featuring teams from a single motorway corridor and a token French club.....
What next? Fat Nigel for Prime Minister?
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| See, I'm going to have to check that list of yours. You have a habit of massively inflating sporting achievements.
Did Charlotte Dujardin really become Olympic, World & European champion or did she just step in some horse sh|t once by accident?
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| As long as it's the kn0b that is Hamilton doesn't win I'm not fussed
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| Carl Froch is the luckiest one to be on the shortlist. He only had one fight which admittedly he did win well but against an opponent he was expected to beat comfortably several months prior but he didn't take him seriously enough. Even if it was a top 20 shortlist I wouldn't have him in it.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"As long as it's the kn0b that is Hamilton doesn't win I'm not fussed'"
Amen to that
Unsure if i should puke or trash my television when he did his segment. What a boring, arrogant self serving little oik.
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| Quote ="Him"See, I'm going to have to check that list of yours. You have a habit of massively inflating sporting achievements. '"
There's a thin line between being a fan and stalking......careful now.
Quote ="Him"Did Charlotte Dujardin really become Olympic, World & European champion or did she just step in some horse sh|t once by accident?'"
Dujardin currently holds the complete set of the available individual elite dressage titles; the individual Olympic freestyle, World freestyle and Grand Prix Special, and European freestyle and Grand Prix Special titles. Dujardin is the first, and to date only, rider to hold this complete set of titles at the same time.
In addition, she forms part of the current Great Britain team for Team Dressage; as such she is also the current Olympic, and a former European, Team Dressage champion.
Olympics Dressage featured teams from germany, Australia, GB, Spain, USA, Denmark, Sweden, Holland, Poland and Canada. Other than GB and Aussie, I am sure these countries have a few pub RL sides, but I suspect that most of the riders representing Germany, Australia, GB, Spain, USA, Denmark, Sweden, Holland, Poland and Canada WERE ACTUALLY BORN IN Germany, Australia, GB, Spain, USA, Denmark, Sweden, Holland, Poland and Canada....making them proper international sports with proper international reach.
Sam Burgess plied his trade in a foreign domestic sporting comp, like Gareth Bale. I suspect more of the British Public have heard of la liga and Real Madrid than even know what the NRL and Rabbitohs are.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Amen to that
Unsure if i should puke or trash my television when he did his segment. What a boring, arrogant self serving little oik.'"
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Thought Lineker was going to nosh him off the way he was fawning about him and "hello Glasgow".....what a tw4t
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| Isn't the Moonie Massive supposed to boycotting SPOTY and refusing to pay their TV licences whilst swearing allegiance to afterthought Thursday night Sky Sports schedules catering for an increasingly irrelevant localised sport?
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| Quote ="goobervision"I think a better map would be one that showed all of the RU and RL clubs, irrespective of grade as that would be more representative of interest.'"
No amount of including pub teams is going to make RL any more relevant in terms of SPOTY or the british public's perception of RL.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Lizzy Yarnold. Gold Medal at the winter OLYMPICS..only the 10th ever gold for GB. BBC covers the Olympics.
Max Whitlock. Multi medal winning gymnast, including Commonwealth, WORLD Champs and European games..all covered by the BBC
Adam Peaty. Commonwealth golds, 4 European Golds and a WORLD record.
Jo Pavey. Oldest ever Gold medal winner at the EUROPEAN championships
Rory McIlroy. WORLDS best golfer who won 2 of the 4 biggest tournaments in the WORLD.
Lewis Hamilton. WORLD CHAMPION
Kelly Gallagher & Charlotte Evans. First ever British winners of Gold at the WINTER PARALYMPICS
Carl Froch: WORLD CHAMPION
Charlotte Dujardin: The first British equestrian rider to be OLYMPIC, WORLD AND EUROPEAN champion at the same time.
Gareth Bale: The most expensive football player in the WORLD.
Of all of the above, only Gareth Bale should consider himself fortunate to be nominated and I doubt he'd be there at all if it weren't for Wales qualifiers (were they even shown on the BBC?)......the rest are all at the top of their sports globally, sports that are contended or played by more than 3 nations at the top level.
The Olympics, World and European Athletics, PGA tour, Formula one, Paralympics and Commonwealth games are all competitions involving dozens of nationalities, represented by people born in the countries they represent.
Sam Burgess played no international sport in 2014 and domestically, he played in a foreign competition not shown on the BBC. The Rugby league that is shown on the BBC contains either challenge cup games featuring teams from a single motorway corridor and a token French club, or a highlights show featuring teams from a single motorway corridor and a token French club.....
What next? Fat Nigel for Prime Minister?'"
Agree with your list. For me the bottom 2 are torch and bale. Can't see why everyone is so upset there is no Sam on the list,
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Agree with your list. For me the bottom 2 are torch and bale. Can't see why everyone is so upset there is no Sam on the list,'"
I agree about Burgess. With the exceptions of Bale (world record transfer fee) and Giggs (felt more of a lifetime achievement award his 2009 win) then team sports players don't really get nominated based solely on club/county success. What cricketers or RU players have been nominated without playing at international level?
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| Oh what a load of bolloxs
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I agree about Burgess. With the exceptions of Bale (world record transfer fee) and Giggs (felt more of a lifetime achievement award his 2009 win) then team sports players don't really get nominated based solely on club/county success. What cricketers or RU players have been nominated without playing at international level?'"
Cannot think of any off the top of my head.
Lewis Hamilton is the winner. Wouldn't have been my choice personally
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| Team of the year 'England Womens Rugby Union'
It's like the BBC want this forum to explode...
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Cannot think of any off the top of my head.
Lewis Hamilton is the winner. Wouldn't have been my choice personally'"
Totally agree,would have given it to Pavey myself.as for team...England women's cricket won 2 world cups in a yr as well as ashes and didn't win.......was bloody boring as well
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Cannot think of any off the top of my head.
Lewis Hamilton is the winner. Wouldn't have been my choice personally'"
Not mine either. I enjoy my F1 and wanted Hamilton to win the world title but in reality the title was a two horse race from the start between him and Rosberg. The latter whilst a very good driver has never been thought of as a really special talent and had no experience of a title decider.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Not mine either. I enjoy my F1 and wanted Hamilton to win the world title but in reality the title was a two horse race from the start between him and Rosberg. The latter whilst a very good driver has never been thought of as a really special talent and had no experience of a title decider.'"
My main issue with any Motorsport really is although no doubt very talented it really does matter what equipment you have more so than other sports, and as you say this was a two horse race
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| Mal Meninga won the BBC Overseas Sports Personality of the Year Award in 1990.
That was way back when proper tours took place and international RL and the sport had some credibility.
Alas, today it has no credibility whatsoever.
Any announcement on dates and venues for the Kiwi series yet?
Thought not.
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