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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Only because you post here all the time.
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I don't post here often TBH.
Do you really think I'd choose to converse with the likes of you unless I had to.
Chris you were a conceited when I first came across you, and you still are - you never learn.
Your compassion for a struggling Salford peaks volumes for you as a person - no really. However a word to the wise. They will never let Widns back into the club, you know that don't you? You're an expendable club buddy, and whatever happens to Salford will happen to you and us one day - no Bradford deals for you
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| Quote ="littlerich"Wow. Just wow.
Has the notion of franchising and licencing totally passed you by? Actually, it has for the RFL so carry on squire.
Salford hoodwinked the RFL and so did Bradford. It is clear that both clubs were in deep crap when they submitted their last applications. How many more?'"
Every club has hoodwinked the RFL you fool and the RFL knew it, you just don't get it do you.
Try and get your closed mind past Salford - the game is bankrupt both financially and morally. If you think Salford are the last and this is only a SL problem then it's not just franchising that's past you by it's the last 4 years! Get a grip man.
You save Salford because they are the only option - despite my reply that the real flat cappers should be invited they clearly shouldn't. They are not ready and neither are any other team. The only team capable of replacing Salford this season is a new Salford.
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| Quote ="vastman"I don't post here often TBH.
Do you really think I'd choose to converse with the likes of you unless I had to.
Chris you were a conceited when I first came across you, and you still are - you never learn.
Your compassion for a struggling Salford peaks volumes for you as a person - no really. However a word to the wise. They will never let Widns back into the club, you know that don't you? You're an expendable club buddy, and whatever happens to Salford will happen to you and us one day - no Bradford deals for you
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OK, you don't post here often. And the pope is mildly catholic. That's okay by the way - admit you come on here often because you like it. I do. Although not like I used to.
As for the rest of your post, mildly cretinous garbage from a conversation you've had in your head. I've made very little opinion so far on the salford situation here or elsewhere.
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| Quote ="GT"Hang about. Don't you follow London?'"
Yep, he does. That would be the London Broncos who pay rent to use someone elses stadium and have very few fans by comparison to the rest of SL........but who are currently solvent due to the generosity of our owner, David Hughes, who ploughs in the region of 1.5 million a year into the game in the south east and London and yet gets little or no support or thanks from the RFL.
When London go under, as I have no doubt they eventiually will BTW, we won't bleat on about needing support from the games governing body....support that in reality, if the game wanted to grow, should have been forthcoming at the birth of SUPERLEAGUE. Melbourne Storm are proof of the only way to fastrack expansion.
By the way....In a delicious bit of Irony, Mr Hughes is a Saldford lad. Maybe he should buy into them.....our previous owner has done wonders for Wigan
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| Quote ="GT"Hang about. Don't you follow London?'"
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
By the way....In a delicious bit of Irony, Mr Hughes is a Saldford lad. Maybe he should buy into them.....our previous owner has done wonders for Wigan
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I think he's from Swinton? But i agree with the rest of it.
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| Quote ="vastman"Every club has hoodwinked the RFL you fool and the RFL knew it, you just don't get it do you.
Try and get your closed mind past Salford - the game is bankrupt both financially and morally. If you think Salford are the last and this is only a SL problem then it's not just franchising that's past you by it's the last 4 years! Get a grip man.
You save Salford because they are the only option - despite my reply that the real flat cappers should be invited they clearly shouldn't. They are not ready and neither are any other team. The only team capable of replacing Salford this season is a new Salford.'"
It really is sad isnt it
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| Quote ="vastman"Every club has hoodwinked the RFL you fool and the RFL knew it, you just don't get it do you.
Try and get your closed mind past Salford - the game is bankrupt both financially and morally. If you think Salford are the last and this is only a SL problem then it's not just franchising that's past you by it's the last 4 years! Get a grip man.
You save Salford because they are the only option - despite my reply that the real flat cappers should be invited they clearly shouldn't. They are not ready and neither are any other team. The only team capable of replacing Salford this season is a new Salford.'"
The New Salford could be called anything - Leigh, Fev, Fax, Toulouse, anything!!!
The New club would take up the contracts of those it wanted and release those it didn't. The LSV would be a great home for it and those players retained wouldn't have far to travel, for most it would be closer.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Quote ="GT"Hang about. Don't you follow London?'"
Whats your point?'"
Remind of a) your crowds and b) who owns your ground? Then think about what you posted.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Can't have another Yorkshire team so bring Leigh up for me. They have publicly stated they would be ready. Get the RFL to transer (for free) the entire Salford squad and bobs-your-uncle.'"
Why punish Leigh?
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| What everyone is failing to see especially the other Lancashire teams supporters is if Salford go that's another potentially big Rugby League club gone from our REAL county! Rugby league in the first place is a Yorkshire dominated small sport in the north, mostly made up from towns aswel, letting a team from a big city die will in future generations make an already RL shy area (MANCHESTER) completely lose touch with RL, I know Salford havnt excelled themselves in the past but that's only due to bad management from the board leading to bad performances on the pitch.
I believe if Salford were to achieve a decent level of success on the field the sporting public of mancheter would come and support it. Fans are fickle they don't want to see a team getting hammered week in week out that's why in the past 20 years the public of Salford and Manchester havnt taken an interest in RL. I personally blame John Wilkinson, some love him however I see his 30 year ownership as a way of having an old boys club for him and his friends, a nice little club for his family to profit from and a RL team to call his own, the fact is he's never tried to push us to the next level and has accepted us being a bottom table team just surviving. I find it quite interesting as soon as he sold the willows back in 2005 to Goldman and Watson homes he instead of investing the money into the team he decided to take out loans from private company's and city councils, sounds to me like he made his money and wasn't prepared to carry on putting money in, he only seemed interested in running the club until the willows went bust, now he wants to sell up? Why not try sell up 10 years ago when the club was stable?
Anyway back to the point Salford going wont just stop Salford locals keeping an eye on RL but but mancheter as a whole aswel, I live in Droylsden Manchester and everyone in the pubs around here and in Manchester know of Salford and will keep an eye on their results but won't go because thy wont waste there money on a club who at the moment don't have the aspirations on the field, under new management I think Salford can excl around Manchester with a winning team, WINNING being the vital Ingrediant, and to put to bed the comments about Wigan being Manchester, far from it people in Wigan arnt the same people and the Manchester public don't have any affiliation with Wigan as a place, if RL is to flourish in Manchester we need to have a Salford club with a decent team on the field not just a team propping up the SL table.
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| Swinton anybody!
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| With all this you might asd well let Sale have a go.
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| Quote ="GT"Remind of a) your crowds and b) who owns your ground? Then think about what you posted.'"
And thats relevant because?
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Quote ="GT"Remind of a) your crowds and b) who owns your ground? Then think about what you posted.'"
And thats relevant because?'"
You're either stupid, just being facetious or it's a little from column "A" and a little from column "B".
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| Quote ="GT"You're either stupid, just being facetious or it's a little from column "A" and a little from column "B".'"
No little about it mate. Just ignore him.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"No little about it mate. Just ignore him.'"
Naughty London Broncos fan having an opinion about the game.
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| "Leigh are just Salford in disguise. No fans, a stadium they dont own."
"London are just Salford in disguise. No fans, a stadium they dont own."
Spot the difference. Happy New Year.
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| Quote ="GT""Leigh are just Salford in disguise. No fans, a stadium they dont own."
"London are just Salford in disguise. No fans, a stadium they dont own."
Spot the difference. Happy New Year.'"
Where did i say London were a good model for a new SL side? get a grip.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Naughty London Broncos fan having an opinion about the game.'"
Hypocrite London Broncos fan having a titheaded opinion about the game.
Take London Broncos out of the equation. You've used it as a get out of jail free card for too long you ignorant .
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| when salford goes pop.......nobody should replace them..
and when we decided the teams for the next round of franchises we should only have 10 teams in super league
1. london
2. catalan
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4. st helens
5. warrington
6. huddersfield
7. bradford
8. leeds
9. hull fc
10. hull kr
in terms of super league we need to go back to basics,fall back on our strengths and rebuild.....
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| Good sensible post that Spud and although London isn't "our strength", in some warped way it probably secures the Sky deal. A ridiculous situation but nevertheless a necessity? They stick out like a jellied eel on a plate full of Yorkshire puddings. Anyway, too much good work has gone on at grass roots level to abandon the area for good. It certainly looks a strong league, including the bouncebackability Bulls
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| The fact we dont have anybody anywhere near ready to replace them tells us how weak we are as a sport, a major shake up is required both at RFL and club levels
The Franchise farce has resulted in clubs owners looking at ways to ' tick boxes ' rather than genuinley grow their clubs, and the RFL have colouded in this nonsense as well , just to make the sport look stronger than it is, and to justify their decisions
Its time for Mr Wood to go, and Mr Rimmer with him
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| Quote ="Starbug"The fact we dont have anybody anywhere near ready to replace them tells us how weak we are as a sport, a major shake up is required both at RFL and club levels
The Franchise farce has resulted in clubs owners looking at ways to ' tick boxes ' rather than genuinley grow their clubs, and the RFL have colouded in this nonsense as well , just to make the sport look stronger than it is, and to justify their decisions
Its time for Mr Wood to go, and Mr Rimmer with him'"
With the structure that is in place for the Championship and its lack of sponsorship, there will never be the option of "swapping" a SL club for a CC club.
However, its all about success being rewarded and somehow the top club in the CC, deservers their chance.
Having said that, it is far from straightforward as the gulf between the two leagues, especially in terms of revenue is possibly too big for a promoted club to prosper.
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