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| Quote ="Mutley Cat"
lap it up fella what goes around ect ...'"
..has come around.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"That seems to be one of the things being floated on the wakey board at the minute with glasshoughton being the option.
Now merger or liquidation. Not much of a choice is it.'"
Depends...
In Rugby League, for one of the teams involved, they both end in much the same way
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"That seems to be one of the things being floated on the wakey board at the minute with glasshoughton being the option.
Now merger or liquidation. Not much of a choice is it.'"
Between those two choices i'd take liquidation.
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| Just like Wakie I would rather go watch Cas down in amateur leagues than merge.
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| Ah, Calder Valley RLFC...
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Ah, Calder Valley RLFC...
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With no fans, the passion runs deep around here for RL and you can bet it would fall flat on its a***
Edit: Silly me!
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| Quote ="Fanatic_Tiger"With no fans, the passion runs deep around here for RL and you can bet it would fall flat on its a***
Edit: Silly me!'"
As opposed to the last ten years where fully pro RL has been a rousing success in the district.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Now merger or liquidation. Not much of a choice is it.'"
Yeah, they only have liquidation because not even Richard Wright is stupid enough to merge a team on the up with a team worth nothing at all, losing fans in the process!
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Yeah, they only have liquidation because not even Richard Wright is stupid enough to merge a team on the up with a team worth nothing at all, losing fans in the process!'"
£2million might make him more co operative. Plus it guarantees Glasshoughton and takes away any competition.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"£2million might make him more co operative. Plus it guarantees Glasshoughton and takes away any competition.'"
Glasshoughton is guaranteed anyway, planning will be a doddle and contrary to what Wakey fans want to tell you funding IS there, and Wakey aren't exactly competition, are they?
Wright doesn't even want a ground share, never mind a merger
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"£2million might make him more co operative. Plus it guarantees Glasshoughton and takes away any competition.'"
Add in the guarantee of another SL license and it looks more attractive
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Anybody any idea when Sky money is dished out? Will we have had some or all of it already? If not can you get it when in admin? Maybe that will give us a stay of execution, or is that wishfull thinking?'"
Might be the 28 day funding that the RFL are talking about.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"As opposed to the last ten years where fully pro RL has been a rousing success in the district.'"
Sorry? Where do you live? In the WF6 area? If not then you wouldn't have an idea about how much RL has had an effect around this area.
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| Quote ="Fanatic_Tiger"Sorry? Where do you live? In the WF6 area? If not then you wouldn't have an idea about how much RL has had an effect around this area.'" what an awful argument.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"icon_lol.gif what an awful argument.'"
Crowds aren't exactly poor though are they? For the size of towns/cities around this area I would say crowds are amazingly high.
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| Quote ="Fanatic_Tiger"Crowds aren't exactly poor though are they? For the size of towns/cities around this area I would say crowds are amazingly high.'"
unfortunately for you, the relative size of the crowds to the town you are in matters not one jot to the bank manager, nor to the wage demands of players, nor to the cost of suppliers.
In fact, in all but petty attempts at point scoring it is a meaningless and useless bit of trivia.
And relative to other clubs, your crowds arent 'amazingly high'.
A merger would give the club the opportunity to target another 6k RL fans we know exist in Wakfield, plus all the prospective fans Wakefield would be targeting, it means you dont have competition which is literally only one junction down the motorway cannibalising your market, it means you get about £2 million, and it pretty much guarantees you a license.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"unfortunately for you, the relative size of the crowds to the town you are in matters not one jot to the bank manager, nor to the wage demands of players, nor to the cost of suppliers.
In fact, in all but petty attempts at point scoring it is a meaningless and useless bit of trivia.'"
How about the "meaningless" bit of triva as Cas were one of only 3 teams last year to make a profit?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"How about the "meaningless" bit of triva as Cas were one of only 3 teams last year to make a profit?'"
How about it?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"How about it?'"
That might matter to the bank manager and suppliers etc (the suppliers know they will get paid and what not), it also shows that out of 14 teams in the league - only 3 are run well enough to make a profit and one of those are supposedly one of the "weaker" teams.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"That might matter to the bank manager and suppliers etc (the suppliers know they will get paid and what not), it also shows that out of 14 teams in the league - only 3 are run well enough to make a profit and one of those are supposedly one of the "weaker" teams.'"
one who doesnt spend the full salary cap.
Do you have any evidence of their profit, a cursory google doesnt seem to bring anything up, and in a franchise year you would expect them to be shouting it from the roof tops.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"unfortunately for you, the relative size of the crowds to the town you are in matters not one jot to the bank manager, nor to the wage demands of players, nor to the cost of suppliers.
In fact, in all but petty attempts at point scoring it is a meaningless and useless bit of trivia.
And relative to other clubs, your crowds arent 'amazingly high'.
A merger would give the club the opportunity to target another 6k RL fans we know exist in Wakfield, plus all the prospective fans Wakefield would be targeting, it means you dont have competition which is literally only one junction down the motorway cannibalising your market, it means you get about £2 million, and it pretty much guarantees you a license.'"
It does though doesnt it? We have no problems financially and when we get that stadium up we will be guarenteed a licence. Rugby League doesn't have a lot of money in it, so therefore I have no worries whatsoever.
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| Quote ="Fanatic_Tiger"Crowds aren't exactly poor though are they? For the size of towns/cities around this area I would say crowds are amazingly high.'"
I honestly dont know if smokey just wants to provoke an argument or he just doesnt get it,the people of castleford and wakefield (and fev for that matter) want to support there team in the top flight but not as much as they want to support there own team. Smokey seems to think that since we share a (innept and universally despised) council we feel some affiliation towards each other, even though anyone who lives or has spent much time in that district know that isnt the case. The people of cas feel no more affiliation to wakey than they do leeds, bradford, huddersfield or anywhere else in the county, and i've never met someone from wakefield that feels any affiliation to cas. No merged team can work unless it has the fans support and there is no support for the idea. Some people seem to think that a merge team would make rl stronger in the district, when everyone who is from the district knows that it would make it weaker, so many fans that rl cannot afford to lose would be lost to the game for ever and the damage to one of rl's strongest nurseries would be all but irreversable.
Anyway this argument has been done to death a thousand times and i cant be bothered getting into one of smokey cut and paste-athons
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"one who doesnt spend the full salary cap.
Do you have any evidence of their profit, a cursory google doesnt seem to bring anything up, and in a franchise year you would expect them to be shouting it from the roof tops.'"
There was a thread on here listing what every team posted, Cas were making a profit of around 20 grand.
Not spending the full cap is good business sense no? they still made the playoffs 2 years ago and just missed out on a crap decision against Hull KR last year, building a stable club with a profit is far more important than spending the full cap, doing nothing and making a loss (half the teams in the league).
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| Quote ="Fanatic_Tiger"It does though doesnt it? We have no problems financially and when we get that stadium up we will be guarenteed a licence. Rugby League doesn't have a lot of money in it, so therefore I have no worries whatsoever.'"
rugby league has a lot of money in it at some parts, and very little in others.
The fact that some clubs still arent spending the SC which was set 10 years ago and hasnt risen since highlights very clearly just how far behind some clubs are.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"rugby league has a lot of money in it at some parts, and very little in others.
The fact that some clubs still arent spending the SC which was set 10 years ago and hasnt risen since highlights very clearly just how far behind some clubs are.'"
Really? Why we get around 7,000 for an International and RU clubs get 80,000 and the Union club game getsa full 2 page spread when they play and we get a tiny little bit at the bottom. You want RL to expand, it isn't going to, sorry but it's not because no-one cares for it that much.
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