All seasoned pros when we signed them werent they? Ratu, Watts & Hodgson. A wealth of SL experience. Oh wait they had a handful of SL appearances between them, of course theyre unproven! How could you think anything different?

fair enough. Link? If I'm going to argue I'd like to be fully informed.

not really, Leeds, Saints, Warrington, Wigan, Salford, Hull, Huddersfield, all have better English stand offs,

and Bradford, castleford, and Quins all have far fewer overseas players, and far more academy products in their sides,

it seems to be just a Hull KR and Wakefield thing

do you understand what bar Ratu, Watts and Hodgson means?

it means apart from.

i now look as stupid as you....

But still you said we havent taken a chance on any English talent and i named 3 players there straight away.

Peter Fox was unproven before he joined us too.

yeh I'anson has so much potential that he was snapped up by one of those gfairy god mother SL clubs who only invest in British youth and wouldn't dream of signing a 30 year old Aussie. Oh hang on a minute no he wasn't. Geez I wonder what that means?

If HKR had no interest in developing their own, players like I'anson wouldn't have ever got a sniff of first grade. he was given a chance and simply proven to be good enough to get us to the position the club wants to be. I hope he goes well at his new club and gets another shot in the future. Me, I'll trust our coaches judgement.

Yes, but we don't. And I don't think any of the stand-offs you're referring to were available this year.



their youth systems are longer established. And the best finish they've had between them in the last 2 years is 8th, so you're really not selling this.

Shall we just skip to the end, where I submit that Hull KR have behaved in an entirely rational way given the incentives with which they were presented and you agree and turn your fire on the RFL.

i said bar those three, who arent yet established with you, Ratu has played more games for Leeds than you for instance.

and Fox had played 24 of 27 games for wakefield the year before he joined hull kr

no, i dont think they are blameless, i think they Hull KR have behaved like a 13 year old girl whose parents have left for the weekend. She is sat knowing she should stick to a couple of cans of castlemaine but she couldnt resist throwing a party and cracking open the bundaburg rum and no shes throwing up and the house is a mess.

The RFL should probably have locked the drinks cabinet but she has to take responsibility for her bad choices

who in turn only seem to trust Australians,

i wonder why none of the other 'fairy godmother clubs' (7 of whom already have british stand offs) arent looking to replace their players with unproven Australians.

you serious? Do you really want me to list the clubs who over the last say 2-3 seasons have signed no name or end of career NRL players? We could ne here a while!

On this whole subject, does this mean as RL Fans we should expect Celtic to only Field Welsh Players as they are Welsh or would it be acceptable for them to field 17 Englishmen as they have a GB Passport?
Ben Fisher (for example) has a GB passport yet is classed as an Aussie so where does the foriegn issue stop?
This issue would not being discussed right now had Rovers not made the (argueablly) biggest signing in SL history, however hes an Aussie, please name a current English player who is of this calibre and is available?
None so we did the next best thing for the club which will and should always come before the national setup!!
People are quick to forget that Hall (young english lad) is most probably crossing the Ts and dotting the I's right now and we went very public that we would love to talk to Radford, maybe they both have an Aussie connection.
Where in the football premier league do 95% of the England team play oh that will be in the big 4, we may have finished 4th last year but that does not make us a big 4 club and as such the youngsters may always want to go to what they (and us) see as the big 4.
Its easy to forget that in recent years we lost English players actively playing in our team to what then were bigger clubs I.E Wilkon to Saints and Raliegh to Huddersfield, its also easy to forget that for years we were in the Doldrums where the likes of Radford, Cooke, Yeamen, Both Hornes and the list goes on would have signed for us should we have been in SL, they are all self confessed fans but FC had at the time the setup in place to further these peoples careers.
If in 10 years time we are still using the rules to our advantage then fair enough but until then think logically not blinkered!!!

and McDonalds should stop selling burgers and fries and just sell lettuce sandwiches in wholegrain bread as it would be better for the country!

So we are aware you are xenophobic, well done

Sorry if i derailed the thread by talking a bit of sense lol

So, to recall a previous thread, you would not expect a relatively new club to SL like Rovers to win the Grand Final or Challenge Cup but you do expect them to have a youth system on par with Leeds Wigan Saints etc. While at the same time investing hundreds of thousands in stadium improvements.

Still you do have a point, Leeds have beaten a Rovers team packed with average imports home and away this season...oh hang on

Not a lot of English lads in that Catalan side ...

Seriously, though, I don't care too much about some clubs with lots of foreigners, what I don't like is that KR have some pretty low quality foreigners in the mix, they should have better quality than that by now!
It is a shame that FC have better links to the amateur clubs in East Hull though.

And yet those "low quality" foreigners got us into the playoffs for the second season running! Go figure...

Well Newton and Galea have played apart in NRL Grand Final Winning Sides and made last years Super League Dream Team. Newton is the joint top try scoring forward in the league and as a pair they perform brilliantly

Vella, Mason and Clinton have all played for Austrailia and two of the 3 have played origin

Dobson has made the SL Dream Team for the last two seasons and won the Albert Goldthorpe medal last year as well as creating more trys this season than any player except Rangi Chase

Jake Webster is a Kiwi International

Lovegrove is in the players eyes the player of the season as per his award at the clubs recent dinner

But i'll give you Fisher, got a very good long contract from the club when we were desperate and although we tried to offload him in pre season we had no look.I anticipate we'll try again in this off season as he is entering the final year of his deal

You would think Hull KR finished bottom of the pile judging by a few of these posts.

Smokey makes some interesting and fair points, but what benefit is it anyone if they are 'shoved' into the mix?
Can you not understand a Mason esque signing should only be beneficial to the young crop of English players at Rovers already.

If you look at across the team, the likes of Latus, Mariano, Watts and to a lesser extent Welham have all developed sufficiently this year.
Like what has been said before, why is signing a Blake Green over I'anson a bad move? If the 'English' talent isn't there, which has been proved after trying I'anson out in many games, he's had more of a chance! (Personally, i don't think hes a bad player but...)

Oh, and a last point is Paul Mcshane really some kind of superstar that some pundits profess he is? Every time I see him, he has been average at best...

Don't be daft he's absolutely sensational he's only not getting in the team because of that well known Englishman Danny Buderas

With Fox, the risk was Wakefields when they took him from York, He proved himself at Belle Vue then went to HKR for more £'s

And this from a team that had to merge to be saved and played with a team with 99% of them being Aussies please correct me if I'm wrong but us having 10 is better than a 19 man squad

Are you sure it was us?
IIRC it was a player who was an awful lot nearer yourselves that threatened the RFL which forced a rule change.