Good post.

Should I bring out the Wellsy13 rugby league opinions continuum and see where he lays?

So, because Hull KR are only expanding interest and participation of the game of Rugby League just a few miles away from Hull, it's worthless?

Is there a mileage figure you could give us all, whereby it becomes worthwhile?


Does this mean that Widnes should stop their development officers going into schools in Runcorn and South Liverpool?


This is like flatcappery in reverse.

Now where have I said that? They should have been doing this years ago instead they want us to pat them on the back now and say well done.

The patented Wellsy13 rugby league opinions continuum:

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Pro Heartlands.................................................................Pro Expansion
(a.k.a. "flatcapper"icon_wink.gif...................................................(a.k.a. "expansion*zi)

The x is where Big Graeme is looking. Regardless of whether you're for expansion or not, if you aren't up to that level of m, you're perceived as a flatcapper, parochial or insular.

I think this thing has come in handy to describe things the last few days! Especially during the many Crusaders debates recently!

Would you rather them do nothing?

Often said but not actually true.

It's hrad to analyse given the total mess English counties are in but Cornwall definitely does not have any rugby league at all. Neither does the "Isle of Wight" (a county in its own right) nor Rutland. I'm pretty sure that Herefordhsire doesn't either. Sussex has only just got its first team.

Still we are getting there.

Yeah I wasn't sure it was the case (which is why I picked my words carefully!). There are 48 ceremonial counties in England. We've probably covered 90% of them.

He's said time and time again that hes happy they are expanding it.
Just that they've had years and years to do this, and they do it now, expecting people to say well done for it.

Where is this expectancy for a pat on the back and a well done though? Has anyone actually asked for it? It's like he's complaining that they're doing something. We can't turn back time, and we can't hold ourselves back because we should have done something before. It's got to start somewhere, and it doesn't help when you start somewhere that someone comes along and says "well you should have done this before". What does it achieve being negative about a positive?

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Wow.

Just this once I am quite happy to be corrected.

I like that. Perhaps it could be done with a points system as well, and we can have some sort of league table?


I'd place myself about here:
|---------------------------x-----------------------------------------|
Pro Heartlands.................................................................Pro Expansion
(a.k.a. "flatcapper"icon_wink.gif...................................................(a.k.a. "expansion*zi)

So, is what Hull KR are doing not a positive thing because of when they started it?

When should they have started this, in order to make it a good thing?

Because Soooooperdoooper league fans do?











and the RFL are quicker to bail those overspending clubs out!!!

Might go some way to explaining it

whoosh.

my point is the RFL dont owe any favours to NL1 and 2 clubs that arent expansion clubs. they arent in SL cause they dont derserve it

you could learn from places that expand succesfully

but hey, i doubt that you are actually interested in expansion at SL level

how did australian clubs manage to spread the game in their areas?

i guess we mustve had better transport systems back in 1908

so to sum up :

heartland clubs couldnt expand the game more than a few streets from their home grounds for 70 years because transport systems were so poor and these clubs are only doing it now because of the RFLs franchise criteria.

yeah some of these heartland clubs are the bedrock of the sport

Another thread ruined

hey if you are happy to accept the reasons given as to why clubs havent been doing this before and think that constitutes a "good thread" heaven help you

No competition.

Would McDonalds expand into new countries simply because of some altruistic ideal of bringing the Big Mac to people who've never had one before or because it made sense for McDonalds?

Clubs will do what it is in their interests to do. The RFL now have created some measures which align the aims of the clubs with the aims of the sport. And expansion is not solely measured by geography (except by complete imbeciles) if a club can double its fan base, even from the same catchment area, has the sport not expanded?

Spread to where though, the outskirts of Sydney?

It's only fairly recently (late 80's) that Queensland and Mid/Northern NSW got top tier rugby teams and then later on NZ.

Melbourne followed and it's fair to say they've all made a pretty good fist of it.