Paul Newlove (born in Wakey) might be accepted!

London seem to be doing OK........but they'll be lost to the comp next year when we go down, but that's OK, because the top 4 or 5 clubs will hoover up our best and we'll go back to being whipping boys.

by top 4 or 5 I mean Wasps, Quins, Irish, Sarries et al.....

Printer genuine question who are the official big clubs then is it Saints,Wigan,Leeds,& Wire and maybe Hull fc then, Because i like watching other teams players when we Wakey are playing them and i don't know all there names but Cas have a very good young lad i think called Trueman and another one but don't know is name both exciting prospects , And then there's Hudds who have got some good young players gaining first team experience in a struggling side and then us Wakey we have young Kershaw who is on par with regan grace of saints with is speed only difference is regan is playing first team now where as Kershaw's case he got a so-called player called Tom Johnstone in front of him who was developed by wakey so we are all producing good young players just some get there opportunity before others pending on who there coach is so it's not just the so-called top 5 clubs who are producing better youngsters than the rest of us in my opinion.

Looking at Warrington from outside it seems Ratchford has been a much bigger loss than first thought? Mamo and the youngster who got a game can't influence a game like he can. The centres and wingers are big fast and generally good I'd say? Clarke is superb but without Ratch,teams are able to target him a bit more as less danger elsewhere.Of course the pack is strong and Austin going great but Patton isn't consistent it seems? Or maybe just not good enough. When is Ratchford due back because I'd say before he got crocked Warry at least on a par with Saints. Still think you will win at least one pot this year.

Jake Trueman is a Bradford academy product not Castleford.

Absolutely nothing to do with Wakefield. Newlove started at Featherstone

Powell gets along of plaudits for being a top coach, but how many players has he developed from their own academy?

That’s what P&R gets you.

Can’t have it both ways. Can’t have the benefits of promotion and not the downside of relegation.

Define benefit.......which team that has earned promotion has gone on to make the comp better......

Did you not spot "Born in Wakey" in the brackets before the might be accepted???

He was ponte too not Wakefield.

You're still not getting the context of my post.

How many games has Kershaw played exactly and Johnstone is injured so not in the way and Kershaw still isn’t being picked now. Not saying other clubs can’t name one or two but it’s not as much.

Looking at the Sts Team of 2000 I think they’d romp the Super League probably unbeaten and also take out the GF and CC

Paul Wellens
Steve Hall
Kevin Iro
Sean Hoppe
Anthony Sullivan
Tommy Martyn
Sean Long
Apollo Perelini
Keiron Cunningham
Julian O'Neill
Tim Jonkers
Chris Joynt
Paul Sculthorpe.

Subs: Fereti Tuilagi
Scott Barrow
John Stankevitc
Sonny Nickle

Not many. Of which he has received some criticism .

Some great players, but also some very average ones, their team from 2006 was probably better

If we had a time machine, it would make an excellent game.
There is some real quality in the current Saints line up and I dont see the walkover that you suggest ?

The 2006 team was better.

That said there are plenty of teams over the years from other clubs who would beat the current saints team. Well, certainly from Leeds, Bradford and Wigan. Struggling for other clubs

Sorry but our (Wire) team from 2011 would muller the current saints team at a canter.

Must of been down to all those Grand Final wins that particular Wire side was racking up...

Well yes they won zero just like this current saints team. It would not be close. Its just the drop in standards across the board in the last decade.

Is the best Dire can offer? A side which actually won nothing? Didn't even reach a final either?

When it's talked about the better sides rugby league has had to offer in the last 30 years or so the so-called 'vintage' Warrington team of 2011 doesn't exactly spring to mind.

Ratchford is out for another 4 weeks yet i believe but i'm not 100% sure? I wish i had your faith but i don't think we'll win anything this year, got my money on Saints for the treble and London/Leeds for the drop.

It's to illustrate that standards are continuing to drop. Correct, they didn't win at Wembley or Old Trafford, but that has nothing to do with the context of the post.