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| If you take lyon points from kicks out of the equation how do they compare in space and providing scoring opertunities for their wing men
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| I like Moon but he's way short of Gidley and absolutely nowhere near Lyon!
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| Lyon is the best centre of the SL era imo, yes only 2 years but he was all class.
Moon is a very good SL player but not in the World Class category.
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| Lyon is one of the best players to have graced the superleague. Moon is a quality centre but he's not in Lyon's bracket.
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| There are several centres who have played for Leeds in the SL era who are arguably better than Moon, but behind Lyon: Godden, Blackmore, Carroll, Senior, Watkins... He's a better centre than Brett Delaney, Clinton Toopi, Chris McKenna and Chev Walker though
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| Lyon could also play halfback. He was all class in everything he did. But Moon is a very good play, hence why he's in my fantasy team.
Boo (Saints lost)
Yeah (Moon scored and Hardacker)
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| Keith Senior at his best was easily as good as Lyon. Paul Newlove was also superb at his peak.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Keith Senior at his best was easily as good as Lyon. Paul Newlove was also superb at his peak.'"
Those are the only two at Lyon's level in the Suoerleague era imo. Maybe Richie Barnett on his day too.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Those are the only two at Lyon's level in the Suoerleague era imo. Maybe Richie Barnett on his day too.'"
Loved watching both Newlove and Senior in their prime.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Keith Senior at his best was easily as good as Lyon. Paul Newlove was also superb at his peak.'"
Senior maybe for a season or two.
Nowhere near as good over a long career at the top in the toughest League like Lyon has performed at.
Lyon set SL alight in his two seasons in exile.
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| Lyon was the best Saints centre since Meninga and one of the best players to play in SL.
Joel Moon is a quality player but not Lyon.
Somebody mentioned Paul Newlove, the best quickest feet for a big lad i've ever seen.
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| Lyon every time.
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| Not a patch on Senior, never mind Lyon.
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| Quote ="Ande"Lyon was the best Saints centre since Meninga and one of the best players to play in SL.
Joel Moon is a quality player but not Lyon.
Somebody mentioned Paul Newlove, the best quickest feet for a big lad i've ever seen.'"
This, exactly. Moon never struck meas anything special when he at the Warriors, but he's been terrific for Leeds. I still remember Lyon playing for Saints, though. I like him even less now he's playing for Manly, of course.
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| Richie Barnett Sr as a centre at Hull is up there with your Gidley's, better than Moon IMO, certainly knew how to knock 'em down
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| Keith Senior mentioned in the same breath as Jamie Lyon and Paul Newlove
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| Quote ="SLS"Keith Senior mentioned in the same breath as Jamie Lyon and Paul Newlove
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Good argument, well constructed. It's pure chance that Senior is the second highest try scorer in Super League history and that whoever played outside him consistently scored bucketloads of tries. He was immense throughout his time at Leeds.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"Good argument, well constructed. It's pure chance that Senior is the second highest try scorer in Super League history and that whoever played outside him consistently scored bucketloads of tries. He was immense throughout his time at Leeds.'"
Keith Senior couldn't do a single thing better than either of the other two mentioned.
He was a good centre but Newlove or Lyon !? No, I'm afraid not.
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| Quote ="SLS"Keith Senior couldn't do a single thing better than either of the other two mentioned.
He was a good centre but Newlove or Lyon !? No, I'm afraid not.'"
Much better defender than Lyon and could run through a man better than either of them. He might not have had twinkle toes but the man was outstanding and the stats back that up.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"Much better defender than Lyon and could run through a man better than either of them. He might not have had twinkle toes but the man was outstanding and the stats back that up.'"
Hahahaha. Whatever you say. Nobody outside Leeds would put Senior near either.
I bet Lyon doesn't even know who Senior is. He's just another centre he ripped to bits when he was over here.
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| Senior and Moon are very different centres.
Senior was a very powerful runner, Moon is exceptionally skilful. I doubt senior would have put handley away for the try last night, but he would have probably crashed over and scored himself.
I think Moon and Watkins are Leeds best centre combination in the last 20 years.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Lyon in 2005
20 tries
24 assists
Moon in 2014
6 tries
15 assists
Gidley in 2008
8 tries
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Tomkins in 2012
28 tries
33 assists'"
Smiley face award of the season.
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| Quote ="DVW"Smiley face award of the season.
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Statistics don't tell the full storey
Leeds 20
Saints 14
Wigan 13
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Statistics don't tell the full storey
Leeds 20
Saints 14
Wigan 13'"
What a random post.
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| Quote ="SLS"Keith Senior couldn't do a single thing better than either of the other two mentioned.
He was a good centre but Newlove or Lyon !? No, I'm afraid not.'"
Talk out your , Lyon was class, newlove should have been great but could not be d, see Kevin iro. Senior easily the best centre in super league history, Lyon may well be considered a better player but two seasons over 15+
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