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| Quote ="William Eve"The further devaluation of the formerly prestigious Challenge Cup is duly noted.
Pure. Marketing. Genius.
No, really.'"
What a predictably moronic response. Why are you a member of this forum when you clearly dislike the sport?
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| Quote ="William Eve"The further devaluation of the formerly prestigious Challenge Cup is duly noted.
Pure. Marketing. Genius.
No, really.'"
Would it not do more damage to the competition to have a quarter final on national television with less than a thousand in attendance?
You appear not to have a clue.
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| Quote ="William Eve"The further devaluation of the formerly prestigious Challenge Cup is duly noted.
Pure. Marketing. Genius.
No, really.'"
Shomben de kao wo aratte koi.
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"Shomben de kao wo aratte koi.'"
He de mo kurae.
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| Quote ="William Eve"More fans in Sheffield interested?
Hmmmm. I'm pretty sure that many former RL fans in Sheffield haven't forgotten being shafted by Super League in order to provide yet another leg-up for Huddersfield and the conspicuous regularity of all those empty seats which characterise their most favoured stadium status (according to the criteria) on match days. The biggest waste of £1.1 million in the entire history of Super League? Or on a par with the super shafting of Gateshead in favour of Hull?
Another nail in the coffin of the Challenge Cup.
May as well flog tickets for it in Poundstretcher or Poundland.'"
How does cheap tickets exactly devalue the competition? So if Sheffield were to set tickets at £250 a pop that would bring prestige to the game? Don't be so bloody stupid. You must be a very sad little man, Mr. Eve if this is how you entertain yourself.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Would it not do more damage to the competition to have a quarter final on national television with less than a thousand in attendance?
You appear not to have a clue.'"
Let's see now... yes, I'm pretty sure this game is not being shown on national TV. The CC fixtures being shown on national TV are Catalans V Hull and Warrington V Huddersfield.
A former prestigious cup competition reduced to...
1) Playing a couple of rounds two weeks apart in Apr/May.
2) Playing the next round two months later! That'll keep the fans focused and interested in it. NOT!
3) Flogging tickets for next to nothing in the hope of generating an attendance.
4) Haphazard nature and ludicrous timing of the draws.
5) Flogging some of the TV rights to Sky who then choose not to televise those games.
Who did you suggest hasn't got a clue?
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"How does cheap tickets exactly devalue the competition?'"
Good luck to any club in securing future healthy attendances with normal ticket prices after they've been flogging earlier games at bargain basement ticket prices.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Let's see now... yes, I'm pretty sure this game is not being shown on national TV. The CC fixtures being shown on national TV are Catalans V Hull and Warrington V Huddersfield.
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Incorrect, it's live on Sky.
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| Quote ="E.S.O"Incorrect, it's live on Sky.'"
Sky is an exclusive, subscription-based sports channel. It is therefore not available to the national audience because not everyone subscribes to Sky, and those that do subscribe to Sky don't necessarily subscribe to it's sports channels.
HTH
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| Quote ="William Eve"Sky is an exclusive, subscription-based sports channel. It is therefore not available to the national audience because not everyone subscribes to Sky, and those that do subscribe to Sky don't necessarily subscribe to it's sports channels.
HTH'"
Whether it fits your own agenda (or not), they will not significantly increase their crowds just because they are playing London in the cup.
It makes good business sense to reduce ticket prices or even give them away for this fixture.
Let's face it, this is a "bonus" game for Sheffield and if, by encouraging some new faces to come along, they manage to increase their weekly gates then, job done !
How would you suggest that Sheffield attract more "walk up" fans and pre-match tickets for a game that is to be shown on Sky ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Whether it fits your own agenda (or not), they will not significantly increase their crowds just because they are playing London in the cup.
It makes good business sense to reduce ticket prices or even give them away for this fixture.
Let's face it, this is a "bonus" game for Sheffield and if, by encouraging some new faces to come along, they manage to increase their weekly gates then, job done !
How would you suggest that Sheffield attract more "walk up" fans and pre-match tickets for a game that is to be shown on Sky ?'"
Spot on!
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| Quote ="William Eve"Sky is an exclusive, subscription-based sports channel. It is therefore not available to the national audience because not everyone subscribes to Sky, and those that do subscribe to Sky don't necessarily subscribe to it's sports channels.
HTH'"
Sky is available nationwide. The game is live on sky. Therefore the game is live on national tv.
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| Sheffield need to build a fan base if they are to make a push for Super League. Here it is for them, so why blame them for pushing for a big attendance and hopefully introduce or bring people back to rugby league in the Sheffield area? Eagles control the ticket prices, they can do as they choose, but it seems the morons on here would prefer to see them make no effort and get a crowd of 500 in a huge athletics stadium so they can point and laugh.
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| Quote ="E.S.O"Sky is available nationwide. The game is live on sky. Therefore the game is live on national tv.'"
That's not the same as being available on national tv to a national audience. Around 50 to 100k sky sports subscribers watching on pay tv to a restrictive and exclusive paying audience does not equate to a few million watching on a free-to-air national tv station which is fully and freely available to a national audience.
HTH
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| You said the game wasn't been shown on National TV.
You were wrong.
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| Championship crowds are diminishing rapidly, and until we bring back P&R (along with a revival of the UK economy) they will continue to do so. The crowd for the previous round was advertised as 782 (it was more than that, but that's shared gates for you) with around two thirds from Fax (I didn't count, but a ratio of 2 to 1 looked about right).
Well done to Sheffield for trying to generate some interest, but floggings and dead horses spring to mind. We need some P&R battles to help get folk excited outside of the playoff games.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Let's see now... yes, I'm pretty sure this game is not being shown on national TV. The CC fixtures being shown on national TV are Catalans V Hull and Warrington V Huddersfield.
A former prestigious cup competition reduced to...
1) Playing a couple of rounds two weeks apart in Apr/May.
2) Playing the next round two months later! That'll keep the fans focused and interested in it. NOT!
3) Flogging tickets for next to nothing in the hope of
generating an attendance.
4) Haphazard nature and ludicrous timing of the draws.
5) Flogging some of the TV rights to Sky who then choose not to televise those games.
Who did you suggest hasn't got a clue?'"
Timing of the round is largely irrelevant. In years gone by they were too close together because of peripheral competitions like the JPS and county cups. Actually spreading it out can provide more focus. Admittedly 2 months between round is perhaps too long, but having them too close together means condencing the down time for teams knocked out in early round.
Soccer a FA cup has random times and locations for its draw. Come to think of it, I can think of only the Champions league which has a fixed time for its draws. Yep, good point that you made.
Reducing prices. Don't see a problem. Or are you one of these who thinks Super League is the be all and end all. Super League, that competition in which the play off round are so well attended by the bigger clubs yep, you had a real point there.
As far as I know, Sky TV can be viewed anywhere in the British Isles. By definition it's going to be aired nationally. Or would you prefer the good old days of Scrumdown or RL Action, on at close to midnight by a regional broadcastor.
You seem the toe that would.
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| Jesus wept.
Can't believe the tripe some people have come out with on this thread.
(By the way this isn't a retort on the above post, which I think is common sense)
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"It's easy to criticise, how would you attract more fans the match if you were the Eagles marketing bod?'"
William, are you:
A going to answer the question
B ignore it
C have no better solution
my money is on C
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Quote ="William Eve":27y0qx9kGood luck to any club in securing future healthy attendances with normal ticket prices after they've been flogging earlier games at bargain basement ticket prices.'" :27y0qx9k
You didn't answer my question. How do cheap ticket prices devalue the prestige of the Challenge Cup?
Just a quick look on the web finds this:
www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announc ... icket-news
www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/lfc- ... gue-prices
That's a drop of almost 50% for adults and a drop of 66% for Juniors.
Is the Football Association Challenge Cup devalued because of these discounted prices? And Liverpool's attendances don't seem to have suffered for it either. Average 44,748 for 2012/13 and 44,253 for 2011/12 [The season the discounted tickets in question were offered Sourc
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You didn't answer my question. How do cheap ticket prices devalue the prestige of the Challenge Cup?
Just a quick look on the web finds this:
www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announc ... icket-news
www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/lfc- ... gue-prices
That's a drop of almost 50% for adults and a drop of 66% for Juniors.
Is the Football Association Challenge Cup devalued because of these discounted prices? And Liverpool's attendances don't seem to have suffered for it either. Average 44,748 for 2012/13 and 44,253 for 2011/12 [The season the discounted tickets in question were offered Sourc
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| Quote ="Traffic"William, are you:
A going to answer the question
B ignore it
C have no better solution
my money is on C'"
I reckon B
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| Its a shame we see the need to discount tickets this way, in years gone past this fixture would sell itself
Just a sign of the times unfortunatly
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| Quote ="Starbug"Its a shame we see the need to discount tickets this way, in years gone past this fixture would sell itself
Just a sign of the times unfortunatly'"
When would Sheffield v London ever have sold itself??
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| Quote ="William Eve"The further devaluation of the formerly prestigious Challenge Cup is duly noted.
Pure. Marketing. Genius.
No, really.'"
I got taken to watch the football with my dad when I was a teenager, and they ran a "kids for a quid" deal.
Professional football has never recovered from that.
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