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| Quote ="Roverswall"Can I just say that I am astounded that most would have us (HKR) in their best SL line up I thought we would be the first in the bin.'"
I enjoy my trips to Craven Park! (Apart from the fooorrrrwaaard)
Seriously, Quins, Salford, Wakefield and Cas would be in the bin before you lot (and rightly so!)
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| As we use the play off system to determin the winners it is not crucial for each team to play all the others home and away. So lets expand (in no particular order)
1. Wigan Warriors
2. St Helens
3. Leeds Rhinos
4. Bradford Bulls
5. Hull FC
6. Hull KR
7. Harlequins
8. Warrington Wolves
9. Salford City Reds
10. Widnes Vikings
11. Huddersfield Giants
12. Barrow Raiders
13. Catalan Dragons
14. Toulouse Olympique
15. Crusaders
16. Cardiff Camels
17. Glasgow Grizzlys
18. Edinburgh Eagles
19. Dublin Donkeys
20. Cork Cheetahs
I know this is in the land of make believe and thr RFL wouldn't have the finances but we would have a balance east and west of the pennines, a presence in Cumbria and 2 teams in France, Wales, Ireland and Scotland creating rivalries in those countries and hopefully over time creating some sort of international games. I'd love to see a competative rugby league five nations.
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| Current SuperLeague, but throw Cas or Wakey out, and put York in.
Cheers.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Current SuperLeague, but throw Cas or Wakey out, and put York in.
Cheers.'"
Yeah !!! Love it. Love your stadium and the atmosphere too. The "York City Knights" theme tune should get you into Super League on it's own merit. A right rocky little jingle that one ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="littlerich"Yeah !!! Love it. Love your stadium and the atmosphere too. The "York City Knights" theme tune should get you into Super League on it's own merit. A right rocky little jingle that one
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It ticks a box doesn't it?
If it doesn't, it bloody should.
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| Quote ="Wheels"It ticks a box doesn't it?
If it doesn't, it bloody should.
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I can't get it out of my head now !!!
[size=150"York Citeeeeyh Kniiights"[/size
[size=200Aaaaaargh !!!!![/size
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Anyone who thinks that either Skolars are anywhere near a Super League club, or that Cas and Trin will merge is living in fantasy world. imo, of course
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Perhaps I should explain.
The Stratford team would be taking over as one of the teams in Olympic stadium. The name has nothing to do with any other local team, it is to hopefully capitalise on the great student deals the club would offer as the area hopefully gets a new university/campus.
Also in the initial stages of the teams vision, it would relate to the sheer number of student visas to get the initial team into the country, although that did take a slight knockback.
As for Trinity Tigers, I'm sure once the cashed-up new SL offers a place in SL to a new team called TT, or instead offers the chance to merge to the existing team, the team would move (one way or the other) into the new Union Rose Stadium (twickers of the north), where they would occupy and share with RL internationals, a War of the Rose game etc. If the existing teams did not want to come, they could occupy the White Rose Cup happily.
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Barrow
Barrow Island
Broughton RR
Dalton
Furness
Hawcoat
Haven
Heinsingham
Kells
Marsh Hornets
Millom
Roose
Ulverston
Walney Central
Worky
There's nutin for you here ![Exclamation icon_exclaim.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_exclaim.gif)
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| I would move South Wales Scorpians into Cardiff, and push them up.
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| Open season with 9's tournement Millenium stadium
East teams one side of draw - West the other.
(top 16 side only) 8 each way (=#00BF004 games played max)
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SL
East / West leagues 10 teams in each (=#00BF0018 games)
Top 3 play in each off.
1v1 winner straight to final (2 games, 3 loser if wins next game)
2v3 loser out Winner plays other 2-3 winner, then plays loser of 1v1 (=#00BF00potential 4 games max)
3v2 loser out ^
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Select West team v Select East team (mid season)
This is designed for NATIONAL selection purposes
Quad Tournament £5 tickets (=#00BF004 games max)
top 2 final
also Barbarians and France
(Barbarians consisting of players not eligable for France or England)
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magic weekend emirates stadium, 2 weekends one for east one for west (=#00BF001 game)
picked on 1v2, 3v4, 5v6, 7v8, 9v10 basis on previous season.
30 games maximum so far if you're involved in them all
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CC to stay the same (=#00BF005 games max)
35 games so far
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[uInternationals[/u
England
Aus
NZ
France
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(=#00BF005 games max)
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[size=15041 games if you play in the maximum amount possible[/size
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Cas/Wakey/Fev all in one stadium in Normanton
Bradford, Hull KR new grounds
Quins to move more central and have their own identity
Sugar daddies for all the clubs that don't have them
The 'London' press to take us more seriously
Bill Gates doing the marketing
A team from the South West or Ireland
2 refs
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Open season with 9's tournement Millenium stadium
East teams one side of draw - West the other.
(top 16 side only) 8 each way (=#00BF004 games played max)
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SL
East / West leagues 10 teams in each (=#00BF0018 games)
Top 3 play in each off.
1v1 winner straight to final (2 games, 3 loser if wins next game)
2v3 loser out Winner plays other 2-3 winner, then plays loser of 1v1 (=#00BF00potential 4 games max)
3v2 loser out ^
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Select West team v Select East team (mid season)
This is designed for NATIONAL selection purposes
Quad Tournament £5 tickets (=#00BF004 games max)
top 2 final
also Barbarians and France
(Barbarians consisting of players not eligable for France or England)
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magic weekend emirates stadium, 2 weekends one for east one for west (=#00BF001 game)
picked on 1v2, 3v4, 5v6, 7v8, 9v10 basis on previous season.
30 games maximum so far if you're involved in them all
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CC to stay the same (=#00BF005 games max)
35 games so far
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[uInternationals[/u
England
Aus
NZ
France
PNG
(=#00BF005 games max)
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Cas/Wakey/Fev all in one stadium in Normanton
Bradford, Hull KR new grounds
Quins to move more central and have their own identity
Sugar daddies for all the clubs that don't have them
The 'London' press to take us more seriously
Bill Gates doing the marketing
A team from the South West or Ireland
2 refs'"
.......and a partridge in a pear tree ![Cool icon_cool.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_cool.gif)
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Open season with 9's tournement Millenium stadium
East teams one side of draw - West the other.
(top 16 side only) 8 each way (=#00BF004 games played max)
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SL
East / West leagues 10 teams in each (=#00BF0018 games)
Top 3 play in each off.
1v1 winner straight to final (2 games, 3 loser if wins next game)
2v3 loser out Winner plays other 2-3 winner, then plays loser of 1v1 (=#00BF00potential 4 games max)
3v2 loser out ^
------------------------------------------------------------------
Select West team v Select East team (mid season)
This is designed for NATIONAL selection purposes
Quad Tournament £5 tickets (=#00BF004 games max)
top 2 final
also Barbarians and France
(Barbarians consisting of players not eligable for France or England)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
magic weekend emirates stadium, 2 weekends one for east one for west (=#00BF001 game)
picked on 1v2, 3v4, 5v6, 7v8, 9v10 basis on previous season.
30 games maximum so far if you're involved in them all
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CC to stay the same (=#00BF005 games max)
35 games so far
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[uInternationals[/u
England
Aus
NZ
France
PNG
(=#00BF005 games max)
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[size=15041 games if you play in the maximum amount possible[/size
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Cas/Wakey/Fev all in one stadium in Normanton
Bradford, Hull KR new grounds
Quins to move more central and have their own identity
Sugar daddies for all the clubs that don't have them
The 'London' press to take us more seriously
Bill Gates doing the marketing
A team from the South West or Ireland
2 refs'"
Jesus I came up with something a lot like that once...
I'm pretty sure mine opened with Great Britain All Stars vs Super League All Stars to mimick the Aussies now.
I'm really hoping this sort of thing is the direction we take. Although I disagree on some points the whole looks promising ![bow down a014.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a014.gif)
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| [uSuper League[/u
St Helens
Widnes
Warrington
Manchester Red Devils (A catchment of millions rather than uneducated dozens)
Wigan
Huddersfield
Leeds
Bradford
Trinity Tigers (home at Fancy Drawing stadium at junction 30 of the M62)
Hull FC
Hull KR
Wrexham
Catalans
Halifax
Simple fixture list, teams play each other home and away. 3 points for a win, 2 points for an over time win, 1 point for an over time loss. Over time is 10 minutes each way, penalties and drop goals only count after full 20 minutes, a try wins the game outright.
Top 8 go into play offs, which will be in the same system as currently, without the choice nonsense. Lowest 2 losers go into the shield competition.
Bottom 6 go into shield competition to be joined by week 1 losers. System as follows:
[uPlay offs[/u
Week 1
a) 1st v 4th
b) 2nd v 3rd
c) 5th v 8th (loser into shield)
d) 6th v 7th (loser into shield)
Week 2
e) Loser a v Winner d (loser eliminated)
f) Loser b v Winner c (loser eliminated)
Week 3
Winner a v Winner f (Winner to GF)
Winner b v Winner e (Winner to GF)
[uShield Competition[/u
Pool A
9th
13th
14th
Pool B
10th
11th
12th
Teams play each other once with highest placed team having home advantage. This will be played alongside week 1 and 2 of the play offs. Pools winners advance to semi finals with the system as follows:
Highest place play off losers v Lowest place pool winners
Lowest placed play off losers v Highest placed pools winners
The winners advance to the shield final which will be played at a neutral venue the day after the grand final
[uMagic Weekend[/u
This will be scrapped in it's league format and replaced with Challenge Cup semi final/Nines tournament and will be moved to the first weekend in July, so the semi final is about halfway between the quarters and final. The venue can change annually, with hosts announced 2-3 years in advance.
The cup semi finalists will not have to supply a team into the Nines competition. The remaining SL clubs will and a 16 team competition will be made up of lower league teams (6 teams if all 4 semi teams are from, etc.
Only one quota player will be allowed in a squad, 5 federation players and the remainder homegrown players, of which 3 must be SL squad players. A squad of 20 must be announced for the entire competition.
The format will be along similar lines as the IRB 7's, with everyone involved on day one, group losers go into day 2 shield, winners into day 2 full competition).
Each day will be ended by one of the semi finals of the Challenge Cup
[uWorld Club Championship[/u
This will be played the week after the European grand final in the country of the hosting nation of the upcoming international tour/world cup/4 Nations. Both teams must announce their strongest possible squads.
[uExtras[/u
Super League week 26 fixtures will all kick off at 3pm on the Sunday.
Only matches covered by Sky can be played on a Friday at 8pm or Saturday at 6pm barring the following:
[iGames between clubs in the same region (northwest team v northwest team, etc)
Catalans home fixtures, which are to be played on the Saturday evening[/i
All other games to be played at 3pm on a Sunday
A mid season international will be played against an antipodean XIII (SL based overseas players) on what was previously the cup semi final weekend, with no league fixtures to take place on that weekend. Other Nations have this weekend to play friendlies also.
Once a nation has been represented at full level, a player can not change nationalities, ever
Quota rules as follows:
3 quota players
5 overseas players (including 3 quota)
10 homegrown player minimum.
Remainder to be made up of federation trained
25 player squad announced before week 1 of the season
Homegrown players under 21 do not need to be announced in squad
Only federation and homegrown players can be added to a squad until 31st May.
Only homegrown players can be added after 31st of May
Salary cap rules as follows:
Quota players: No more than £300k
Overseas players (including 3 quotas): No more than £500k
50% of homegrown players wages not to count against the cap
Overall salary cap: £1.4m
and finally....
[uFranchising[/u
All league points will be tallied up over a 3 year period. The team with the lowest amount of points will be replaced by the team with the highest amount of points in the Championship.
The second lowest points scorers over the 3 years will face a post-season play off against teams 2, 3 and 4 from the Championship (SL shield competition will have the newly promoted team replacing the 13th best team, who will contest this play off)
Promoted teams will only be confirmed in SL if they meet minimum franchise criteria (based on facilities, youth and finances). That play off will be as follows:
Only teams who fill the criteria at the time of the play off will be allowed to contest the competition:
1) SL13 v C4 (Winner to progress to final)
2) C2 v C3 (Winner to progress to final)
Final winner to be given SL franchise. If a team does not meet the criteria, their opponents will be given a bye to the final.
Championship and Championship 1 to be made up of 14 teams each.
Championship grand final winners will accrue 5 league points for system outlined above
Championship 1 league points will be cut in half when considering promotion to SL
Championship 1 grand final winners receive 2 additional league points for promotion system detailed above
New clubs will be placed in Championship 1 and will have to make their own way up the league
Northern Rail Cup to be replaced with midweek competition for homegrown players only.
Championship and Championship representation at the Magic Nines comp will be based on the best performers from this competition
Winner of this competition will receive 2 extra points in the franchise league table detailed above.
Under 20's championship winners will receive 2 points for it's franchise league table
Under 18's championship winners will receive 2 points for it's franchise league table
Under 16's championship winners will receive 2 points for it's franchise league table
Long and winded maybe and a tad complicated, possibly some of it won't work, but hey, it hasn't stopped the RFL
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| If we're merging clubs or trying to rename teams so they can have bigger fanbases, how about:
Cheshire Cougars - Widnes and Warrington
Cumbria Condors - Workington, Barrow, Whitehaven et al.
Merseyside Meerkats - St. Helens
Greater Manchester Gulls - Wigan, Salford, et al.
Trinity Tigers - Wakefield, Castleford.
Catalans Dragons - Catalans
Toulouse Olympique - Toulouse
Pennine Panthers - Huddersfield, Batley, Halifax.
South Yorkshire Sharks -Sheffield, Doncaster.
Leeds-Bradford Leopards - Leeds, Bradford
East Yorkshire Enigmas - Hull and Hull KR
North Wales - Crusaders
South Wales Scorpions - As is.
London RL - London Skolars, Harlequins.
14 team (and strong) SL. Also, everyone's happy and no one can complain about mergers because they all have.
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| Quote ="Fully"If we're merging clubs or trying to rename teams so they can have bigger fanbases, how about:
Cheshire Cougars - Widnes and Warrington
Cumbria Condors - Workington, Barrow, Whitehaven et al.
Merseyside Meerkats - St. Helens
Greater Manchester Gulls - Wigan, Salford, et al.
Trinity Tigers - Wakefield, Castleford.
Catalans Dragons - Catalans
Toulouse Olympique - Toulouse
Pennine Panthers - Huddersfield, Batley, Halifax.
South Yorkshire Sharks -Sheffield, Doncaster.
Leeds-Bradford Leopards - Leeds, Bradford
East Yorkshire Enigmas - Hull and Hull KR
North Wales - Crusaders
South Wales Scorpions - As is.
London RL - London Skolars, Harlequins.
14 team (and strong) SL. Also, everyone's happy and no one can complain about mergers because they all have.'"
This league is still dominated by the "northern tongue". It's basically just the M62 with sy names (or is that y? ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif) )
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| Quote ="littlerich"This league is still dominated by the "northern tongue". It's basically just the M62 with sy names (or is that y?
)'"
You have 5 teams out of 14 that are not in the M62 corridor. That's an improvement on three, as it stands. And I included a tasty looking Welsh derby too.
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| Quote ="Fully"If we're merging clubs or trying to rename teams so they can have bigger fanbases, how about:
Cheshire Cougars - Widnes and Warrington
Cumbria Condors - Workington, Barrow, Whitehaven et al.
Merseyside Meerkats - St. Helens
Greater Manchester Gulls - Wigan, Salford, et al.
Trinity Tigers - Wakefield, Castleford.
Catalans Dragons - Catalans
Toulouse Olympique - Toulouse
Pennine Panthers - Huddersfield, Batley, Halifax.
South Yorkshire Sharks -Sheffield, Doncaster.
Leeds-Bradford Leopards - Leeds, Bradford
East Yorkshire Enigmas - Hull and Hull KR
North Wales - Crusaders
South Wales Scorpions - As is.
London RL - London Skolars, Harlequins.
14 team (and strong) SL. Also, everyone's happy and no one can complain about mergers because they all have.'"
not very european is it?
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| Quote ="Fully"You have 5 teams out of 14 that are not in the M62 corridor. That's an improvement on three, as it stands. And I included a tasty looking Welsh derby too.'"
It's a fair crack, i'll give thee that. But where Barca? Where's Berlin? You haven't even got Dublin or Paris in there ![Confused icon_confused.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_confused.gif) These teams are a shoe-in for 2015. Come on, get with the program ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| If we were going European surely we'd just have:
London Leopards
Paris Panthers
Barcelona Bulls
Madrid Minks
Lisbon Lions
Amsterdam Ants
Rome Rovers
Berlin Braves
Munich Meerkats
Manchester Marmosets
Edinburgh Eagles
Dublin Dragons
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Cardiff Crabs
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| Quote ="Fully"If we were going European surely we'd just have:
London Leopards
Paris Panthers
Barcelona Bulls
Madrid Minks
Lisbon Lions
Amsterdam Ants
Rome Rovers
Berlin Braves
Munich Meerkats
Manchester Marmosets
Edinburgh Eagles
Dublin Dragons
Milan Magpies
Cardiff Crabs'"
shame on you..you've missed out leeds and hull ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| They're not big enough to be involved in the European Super League.
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| Quote ="Fully"They're not big enough to be involved in the European Super League.'"
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classic.'"
Obviously that was tongue in cheek and based on the premise we were expanding to newer and bigger European horizons.
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