The money is NOT to pay back Rodney Walker and I don't know where you've got that impression from!

Probably [url=http://viewtopic.php?p=15754915#p15754915here[/url. And yes, I think brayton is massively misreading what's been said.

Welcome to the long term plan of greedy SL clubs and a misguided RFL. Still, such a policy will see us catch up with Australia. Can't wait.

How do you know?

Haven't you got it by now - Smokey just knows everything!

What happened to Gateshead, Blackpool and Keighley then?

Totally agree re White Knight. Unless said Knight (Not Sir Rodders) has total control he wont enter the fray. £500k then would be getting in the way.

We tried that last year.

it's been said earlier on this particular thread that an investor, someone known to me, who financially has similar clout to the biggest in the game walked away after a meeting with the Rugby football league.

He had done due diligence on the club and knew exactly what the financial position of the club was warts and all and wasn't fazed one iota.

I'll leave you to speculate as to what he was told at the meeting

I might be arguing inside your head, but in fact merely proving a point. Everybody is entitled to an opinion about anything and it is their right to change that opinion at anytime, above are three extracts taken from three quotes by you conveniently overlooked and ignored by you in a last desperate attempt to muddy the waters and dig yourself out of a hole. I cannot argue with your reasons for wanting Wakey out its up to you who you think should be in and who should not, but having said these things please have the gonads to admit that you said them instead of coming over all innocent and denying that you said it like most of your other stuff really, its obvious to me that you have one leg shorter than the other and I'm fed up of going round in circles with you, as the lady said and I quote"I cannot be bothered to dump stuff down for you any further"

Was he told;

- wakeys on field record in the preceding years was mediocre

- wakeys financial record in the preceding years has been dreadful

- wakey's continued over reliance on non british players is very disappointing

- wakey's 'plan B' and uncertainty over Newmarket substantially weakens a licence bid

And given the above there could be no guarentee of a Sl licence and there is a very high chance that a licence would not be granted for 2012-14. Possibly told that for 2015-17 there could be no guarentee that Wakey would get promoted.

Such things would be accurate and true. They would dissuade most potental investors who want a SL guarentee.

and this differs from a lot of other SL clubs and wanabees in what way?

No other club has had 2 recent winding up orders

no other club has a chairman in an IVA

No club with 10 years in SL still has an 'average of 10 non UK players'

No club proposes to hire a stadium in another town for 2012 and beyond

etc etc.

So they are one of the clubs in a very weak position and thus no guarentees. HTH

Drive investment away from a sport that is ROLLING in it.

Its all working out quite well for RL isn't it?

Still as long as investment only goes on in super league, sod everyone else. That's how you build a strong, progressive sport

Had this investor got involved,
winding up orders would never be an issue ever again
He would have been the new chairman making this point a stupid one
Wakefield have produced many many super league quality players who now play with other clubs, most of those players moved on because of Wakefield's financial constraints which would no longer be the case.
St Helens have decided not to go to Widnes then?



No $h!t Sherlock!

I don't think this speculation points in any way to the RFL 'driving investment away'. If there's any truth in these reports, it's easy to see why someone being asked to stump up millions to keep Wakey afloat would seek assurances about the club's immediate future. Equally, the RFL can't give any such assurances. Unless you have an 'uberfan' who is happy to burn money for his beloved home town club, the wise thing for a potential new investor would be to wait until Wakey are out of SL. Then the club could be picked up for a song and you start to build again. Not unlike the Widnes scenario, in fact. A bit of patience, and 3-4 years later you come back with a solid foundation.

Spot on.

Except in 3/4 years time there is still no guarantee that any club will be given a fair chance to move up , the RFL will not guarantee that again

I have yet to see licensing bringing any sizeable investement into SL or the Championship

Except for the assurances bit, is the Crusaders debacle forgotten already?

Er, it is. The fells wanted to invest in a super league side, looks like wakey won't be in it so he won't invest, knowing they wont be there for 3 years. That's what is driving investment away

The question is , would he be happy to take his chances with P and R ?

Either way , it is all irrelevant , if this investor exists ( not casting , just being devils advocate ( not the user name

) for a minute ) then the RFL are now be aware of him , hopefully he will consider his options again in the future

The only point you've proved is your inability to understand English.


Yet you have tried to have a pop at me for supposedly changing my mind (which you still haven't shown). I'm glad you've changed your opinion of people changing their opinions!


I do apologise, I did reply to this at the same time as my last post but it appears to not have posted. No problem. Here is the post in question, I'm sure you'll misinterpret it as usual (even though I've kindly gone through the trouble to quote everything to make it easier for you, and made my latest reply in bold so you can read it easier!):




Hope that covers everything for you nicely there, "squire"




You seem to have an agenda because I have said I don't think Wakefield should get I license? I have never once said that I haven't said that. You need to have the gonads to admit you have misread my posts. And you have - massively! You take your defensive hat off and you'll see there is nothing wrong with what I have written.


Basically, you've realised that you've misread my posts, realised you abused me for no reason, realised that everything you've been arguing about is pointless because it hasn't been said in the first place, and now you're going because you don't have the b*llocks to admit you were wrong, which you were, and have been shown over and over again. Well done.

To summarise:
You've misinterpreted me having the opinion that Wakefield shouldn't get a license in 2012, and think that that means I want shut of them. Simply not true.

I await your reply...

So every club should be guaranteed a Super League place in perpetuity, in case someone wants to invest in it?