I wasn't the one slagging the game & national coach off though so no need for me to suggest replacements.

I had nothing against Dr Kouksh and i'm sure he's a nice guy when he's not spitting his dummy out because he can't get his own way. Same with Mr Noble, he's great when commentating and will do a decent job for Salford no doubt but he's not national coach material.

Better?

I also read that IL of Wigan criticised the Sky deal in no uncertain terms.

It's an intersting one. I think the deal is probably sensible. BT are apparently doing well with this venture. If that's the case I can't see them throwing money at RL. I suppose the danger is BT completely blow Sky out of the water over time and RL is left in the lurch.

McNamara provided Sinfield with the England captaincy and a key role in the national team so that it now revolves around what Sinfield does and what Sinfield wants. For that reason alone, McNamara is cut plenty of slack these days by some Leeds fans.

That says that Brian is available, the full quote also mentions McDermott, Wane and Anderson as people who would do a "bloody good job". You are seeing things, or imagining things, if that is your "proof" of Koukash saying that Noble is the best person for the job.

erm, not quite. Here's what I said on page one...

See now you're just back to making stuff up again.

Yes, and you were fairly roundly slapped down by people suggesting it's not a ridiculous statement, given that he seemed to do a better job than the incumbent. You then conjured up this comment about someone claiming Noble was the best candidate, which is what I took you to task on, and you've since proved wasn't actually said. So when we're discussing who has no credibility I don't think you need to look too far.

Ouch

Clubs are whinging about a 30% increase and an individual increase in SL grant money that will see most of them move out of the red and into the black?

I must have missed the news where SL is filling grounds, has through the roof TV viewing figures, has successfully expanded into new markets, does not have the stench of clubs financially failing etc. surely if they are expecting more than 30% this must all be true?

At least the Salford tool voted no unlike IL who voted yes and still whinged.

You need to appreciate that a lot of Leeds fans do not like Noble and believe he is rubbish. There are lots of reasons they think that way but the main reasons are....

Noble has an excellent record of coaching teams to beat Leeds and it hurts.
Noble dropped Sinfield from the GB squad on several occasions.
Noble didn't even select Sinfield for the GB squad on several occasions.
Noble didn't ever make Sinfield skipper of GB.
Noble selected Harris BOOOOO! ahead of McGuire for the 2004 Tri Nations Final.
Noble never gave Leeds players a fair go for GB. No, really.

McNamara OTOH.....

Can't wait to note how prosperous SL clubs feel about this deal in 5 years time when it still has several more years to run.

Great, back to plaiting fog on RLFans.

Yeah OK then... So maybe you can provide a link to all the trophies he won as GB coach then since all those who apparently "slapped me down" couldn't.

If you really think BN would do a better job than SM you're as clueless about the game as Dr Allcash. Neither are good enough to help us win a trophy.

Quote ="William Eve"Can't wait to note how prosperous SL clubs feel about this deal in 5 years time when it still has several more years to run.'" Probably better than when it was signed in 99 or 2004 (or even probably 2009) The difference there are certain chairmen who seem determined to cause as much disruption and bad feeling as possible unless they get their own way.... Actually on second thought that's not changed, just the way the message gets out! I'm still yet to be convinced any of this is anything but politics. Maybe they should reread some old stories like www.theguardian.com/media/2004/f ... oadcasting and get some perspective on what a bad deal actually is.

Quote ="William Eve"Can't wait to note how prosperous SL clubs feel about this deal in 5 years time when it still has several more years to run.'" Probably better than when it was signed in 99 or 2004 (or even probably 2009) The difference there are certain chairmen who seem determined to cause as much disruption and bad feeling as possible unless they get their own way.... Actually on second thought that's not changed, just the way the message gets out! I'm still yet to be convinced any of this is anything but politics. Maybe they should reread some old stories like www.theguardian.com/media/2004/f ... oadcasting and get some perspective on what a bad deal actually is.

As I said I pay BT nowt. My phone is Virgin cable and my virgin hasn't gone up.

As you'll know, the proportion of Leeds fans who will think McNamara is an adequate international coach is approximately the same as the proportion at all other Rugby League clubs.

Nicely imagined Loiner-baiting though.

did the nice people at Virgin come around and install ANOTHER telephone line to your property? If not, then indirectly you are paying BT.
Because Virgin could afford to take the hit on their profits from you and cover the BT charge is neither here nor there.....some of the money you pay Virgin Media IS going into the BT coffers.

Saying "I don't pay them" is kind of like having a Sea shepherd/Greenpeace/save the whale meeting in a sushi bar

Bless loiner81's little cotton socks.

Agree with you here and oh I'm a Rhinos fan...

I think of the way Michael MaGuire waltzed into Wigan and quite frankly made Noble look amateur. I cant see past that.

I have not read all that is on hear, but what I can not understand is why did he and Wigan's owner not speak up sooner is it because they like to be in the limelight or what, if they are right we will never know because BT or any body else is not going to say I would have offered more are they, for god sake you can not do any thing about it now so please shut up

MK did speak up, he was the only one to vote against the new deal. They only had 24 hours to vote from the moment they were told there was even an offer on the table, what do you want them to do in that time?

Bloody hell, where've all these Salford fans come from.
There's more of you on here these days than i've ever seen at matches

Don't say you're a Rhinos fan, you'll be accused of being bitter because BN didn't pick all the Leeds team during his massively successful, all conquering reign as GB coach.

Bless.

Did they have 24 hours to vote or was it that they were given just 24 hours notice of a meeting?

It takes more than 24hrs to read a contract, digest its offer, analyse its implications, decide if it is a good thing then cast a vote? No wonder it takes forever for clubs to get their act together on improvements!

If they wanted more time they should have voted no and taken the risk of missing the deal altogether.

At least he did and fair play to him but with the vast majority agreeing g he should be gracious in defeat and not start slagging off the company pumping millions in and the rfl who did nothing more than present the offer.