So the positions after those 22 games are sorted alphabetically?
population?
combined shoe sizes?

points accumulated?





Who is this basketcase team that beat us comfortably ???

And who is this Part time team you talk of, cant speak for other champ teams but Fev will be full time from 2015.

If Fev can't break the bottom four of super league so be it at least they may have the opportunity

Yes and promotion and relegation is popular throughout the world as well

There have been several major competitions with more than 1 knock out group stage played on a league basis culminating in 1 final elimination match, so whats different?

no it wasnt, they were promoted through franchising when it began in 2009.

They played in the 2008 championship grand final.

Quote ="fevfan76"So the positions after those 22 games are sorted alphabetically? population? combined shoe sizes? points accumulated?'" The points are reset to 0. You can sort them at that point in to any order you want its not going to make a difference. Those 8 clubs then restart a new league. Quote Who is this basketcase team that beat us comfortably ??? '" hth www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/match/rl3619046 Quote And who is this Part time team you talk of, cant speak for other champ teams but Fev will be full time from 2015.'" you can put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig. You can call Fev's squad full-time if you want. But that isnt a professional squad. Quote If Fev can't break the bottom four of super league so be it at least they may have the opportunity'" Why? why does giving Fev an opportunity to be one of the worst sides in SL supersede the growth and stability of the game as a whole?

Quote ="fevfan76"So the positions after those 22 games are sorted alphabetically? population? combined shoe sizes? points accumulated?'" The points are reset to 0. You can sort them at that point in to any order you want its not going to make a difference. Those 8 clubs then restart a new league. Quote Who is this basketcase team that beat us comfortably ??? '" hth www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/match/rl3619046 Quote And who is this Part time team you talk of, cant speak for other champ teams but Fev will be full time from 2015.'" you can put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig. You can call Fev's squad full-time if you want. But that isnt a professional squad. Quote If Fev can't break the bottom four of super league so be it at least they may have the opportunity'" Why? why does giving Fev an opportunity to be one of the worst sides in SL supersede the growth and stability of the game as a whole?

not really. Yearly P+R in this format or the previous ones used are almost exclusive to European Soccer. Outside that most major sports dont have anything comparable.
like?

You said the Crusaders ( not Celtic ) played in 2009 ,make your mind up?

The biggest team sporting event in the world perhaps?

its at the top of this page you silly banana. You even quoted it



is this where we see you pretend to get confused again?

Lol I mean the 22 games are not irrelevant, they sort out the positions in the league.



Yet still better than many SL teams did against them last season



Getting paid full time to do a job is professional




speculating again, you forgot to put "in your bias opinion"

Whywould Fev being in SL not help the growth of the game - go on real of another load of bull from your mind and speculation. look into your crystal ball you have and tell me our attendance would be crap because were from a hamlet. That we would end up skint and that players such as Hardaker, Burrows and briscoe still wouldn't play for us.

Which one?

The NFL has a league then play off structure, the football world cup has a league then play-off structure, the Champions league has a league then play-off structure, as does the NBA, NHL, NRL, RUWC, RLWC.

The Cricket World cup has a very wierd system that kind of has two leagues parts of it but its universally derided as a pretty crappy system.

Its you who is confused, Celtic Crusaders and the Crusaders are/were 2 different clubs

One cheated by playing players on dodgy VISA s financed by RFL development grants and played in Bridgend

The other went bump playing out of Wrexham and didnt pay loads of its players wages

Roaring success's both wouldnt you say?

The football world cup has 2 group stages played on a league basis, it used to have 3 at one point, the Champions league had 2 also at 1 point

But you have already said Fev arent going to compete to win the thing or for the play-offs, so quite literally those games are irrelevant.

not really, London were by far the worst team in SL last year and would have finished bottom if not for Salford appealing their punishment for having too many men on the field

it takes more than that to be a pro RL player. As i said, you can call them pro if you want. But it doenst change the fact. If someone paid me to be an RL player, i still wouldnt make an professional RL player


There wasnt speculation or an opinion in there. It was a question. Hardaker, Burrow and Brsicoe still wouldnt play for you for the same reason Greg Inglis doesnt play for leeds, because they have contracts elsewhere, and two of them have never played for you

The World cup only has one sweetheart. Both Fifa and Uefa treat their qualifying competitions as just that. Qualifying comps distinct from the finals. Thats why all the stats and records are for the WC finals only. Just Fontaines records number fo goals in a world cup does not count those scored in qualifying.

In the world cup, those competitions are actually administered by two different organisations. The World Cup qualifiers are administered by the continential body. I.E Uefa, Where as the finals are a FIFA competition.

says players such as.. Theres a reason those 2 never played for us and that's because we weren't SL. Im not talking about signing them as big signings, im talking about them coming through our academy rather than someone else's - only one of those mentioned did. He had a 5 year contract and had we been in super league he wouldn't have had to leave us for a measly 70k.

The grass always looks greener on the other side.......£4,000,000 a year is needed to fund a SL team......the bottom line is where will fev get the other £2,150,000 a year to be at best a bottom level SL club?

No choice other than to try though GF, if you dont try, you might as well pack in , and if they dont find the cash somebody else, perhaps whoever they replace will push them back down

As you stated when this new structure was 1 st announced, this will reward those that build their club, Fev are building, how big they can build will decide where they stop ,simple as

Yep,or you accept your position as a farm club and just plod on.
York are using a 30yr old N/Z player from castleford this weekend.
Drip drip.

I don't doubt the intent nor the ambition of clubs like Fev, Leigh, Fax or anyone else for that matter. What I do worry about is the "belief" as conveyed by the Fev chairman/CEO last year when London wobbled, they 'they were ready for SL".
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Featherstone Rovers and Halifax are 2 of the better supported clubs in the KPC this year. 2 Great Clubs with proud traditions that are separated by 25 miles managed to attract 2,583 fans last weekend. This is far more than the London Broncos can muster, but it is not even close to being enough to support a team in the top flight.

The issue faced by Leigh, Featherstone and the other clubs who "aspire" to play at the highest level is that the London Broncos have a benefactor that has thrown close to £13,000,000 at the club in the last 5 years and although short sighted and suicidal may be very apt terms when describing Mr Hughes and his flushing cash down the toilet, it shows the level of investment that a club on even a 6k average will need to attract to have any chance of being competitive. The biggest problem is that even a 6k average wont happen overnight...it will take a few years, so whilst the club do everything in their power to get fans to come to games.....who's going to pick up the tab to make sure they stay competitive until they become self sufficient?

Growing your own is all well and good, but the reality is that if a Wigan or a Leeds come knocking, these young lads will be sold to the SL top 6. Growing your own takes time and as we saw last year in the cup, the home grown Fev and Sheffield lads were no match for the worst team in SL.

Hey.....more power to their elbow if they manage to get into the top tier, but I can see more clubs going bust in that middle 8 section than just Crusaders, Bradford and Wakey in the last 6 years.

That makes no sense, lmao

The irony is ofcourse, that WIDNES were one of the clubds SLE were hoping to dispose of, aswell as Hull KR, Cas' or Wakey (they actually wanted to merge those two along with Fev' as I remember it). So their franchising REALLY worked there didn't it, lmfao!

No, it is you.........again


Celtic crusaders did not play in the 2007 championship grand final, they didn't go bust in 2008, and they didn't change names and location in the 2009 season. All this lovely irrelevant nonsense you are now trying to hide behind, is, well.... Irrelevant. What you have repeatedly stated is demonstrably untrue.

Celtic weren't even the championship in 2007 never mind the championship,grand final and weren't in super league in 2008 never mind bust and relocating however many times you continue to state it, it still won't be true.

My ' Timeline ' is out by 12 months, the rest stands, no matter how childishly pedantic you want to make it bell end

The rest doesnt 'stand' because it was irrelevant nonsense that was factually incorrect.

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