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| Lets be honest the Quins link up was a desperate measure at a desperate time. It hasn;t worked out as we had all hoped but you can;t blame them for grabbing a lifeline when its thrown to them. Don;t know where on earth they go from here. They need money and lots of it to really get a PR macchine in motion. We def benefit as a game from having a London team but the Quins may not be able to last much longer sadly.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under" We def benefit as a game from having a London team'"
Do we though? It clearly aint working and people talk of a poor away day experience.
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| Quote ="-Flea-"Do we though? It clearly aint working and people talk of a poor away day experience.'"
And what poor away day experience is that. The Stoop is a nice ground. The bar is excellent. There's a band on after the match. Every away fan I've ever spoken to has had a good time.
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| Quote ="The Curtism"And what poor away day experience is that. The Stoop is a nice ground. The bar is excellent. There's a band on after the match. Every away fan I've ever spoken to has had a good time.'"
He/she wouldn't really know. He/she is soccer fan that unfortunatly posts on the Fax board as well.
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| A band performs after the match?what,when most people are heading home?
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| When should they perform -during the match
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| 2300 yesterday, just let the poor thing die RFL ffs.
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| Quote ="GSF"A band performs after the match?what,when most people are heading home?'"
No, in the bar before the post match presentations.
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| Quote ="Roofs"2300 yesterday, just let the poor thing die RFL ffs.
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If that's the benchmark for letting things die, then leaving aside the whole argument about what exactly the conspiracy theorists think the RFL is doing to prop up Quins, you're going to need a big skip to carry away the corpses of Salford and every side in Championship and Championship One while you're at it.
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| Quote ="The Curtism"And what poor away day experience is that. The Stoop is a nice ground. The bar is excellent. There's a band on after the match. Every away fan I've ever spoken to has had a good time.'"
One of the best away trips of the season
Really good craic and The Jam tribute band last year was fantastic
Roll on the 26 June
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| A warning for all: keep the flaming down to a dull roar or you risk your posting rights
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| Have you noticed how it's all gone quiet on the Crusaders front...
yes, thought so.
Unlucky Quins, you're up next.
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| simple fact is they aren;t going to be able to financially survive on crowds of less than 3,000. There income from gate takings alone is a million quid+ less than most clubs!
Given the RFL have announced someone is going to be relegated they are going to find it very very hard to justify kicking out anyone other than Quins if there on field performances continue matched with shocking crowds.
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| Quote ="east stander"When should they perform -during the match'"
Might make for better entertainment.
I thought Curtism was referring to pre match entertainment,you know pre,as in beforehand.
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| I agreeJB, I was more having a punt re: Crusaders.
Thing is though, it's not all about Crowds and tbh using the 10 point system they'd still get a B grade I reckon.
I think people are barking up the wrong tree.
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| Quote ="The Curtism"And what poor away day experience is that. The Stoop is a nice ground. The bar is excellent. There's a band on after the match. Every away fan I've ever spoken to has had a good time.'"
I agree. All I want from an "away day" experience is to watch a game of rugby league. At the Stoop I can do that, and get a good view of the pitch and enjoy a drink in a decent bar. The only snag with the Stoop is that it's a long drive, but I can hardly blame the Quins for that!
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| GSF Quote A band performs after the match?what,when most people are heading home?'"
GSE Quote east stander wrote:When should they perform -during the match
Might make for better entertainment.
I thought Curtism was referring to pre match entertainment,you know pre,as in beforehand.
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a mixed message
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| Quote ="GSF"A band performs after the match?what,when most people are heading home?'"
So let me get this straight.
Harlequins had a band... AFTER the game??
Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear.
What on earth is the point of that??
Out of interest were they a Police tribute band?
They could have played 'Walking on the moon' if they were as a tribute to the lack of atmosphere and people down the Stoop
Boom boom
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| the originator of this thread is pathetic, having freely admitting that he has never been to watch quins play, he proceeds to lambast the club and their ground. i have been to the stoop on a couple of occasions when i have been in london, and have thoroughly enjoyed my visits. the great amount of youngsters playing the game in the south east now is a living testament to the good work quins have done in the community.
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| Quote ="Javier Mascherano"the originator of this thread is pathetic, having freely admitting that he has never been to watch quins play, he proceeds to lambast the club and their ground. i have been to the stoop on a couple of occasions when i have been in london, and have thoroughly enjoyed my visits. the great amount of youngsters playing the game in the south east now is a living testament to the good work quins have done in the community.'"
You are Brian McDermott and I claim my 8.22954 AUD
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| Quote ="TonyGee"For me the main problem with London is they could never decide what they wanted to be and where they wanted to be it. Opportunities have come and gone and now they are back to square one, or even worse off than square one. its only an opinion but taking on the name harlequins has only produced positive results for one of the two rugby teams sharing that name. They no longer have a brand and if you talk about Harlequins in London then there is only one club people are thinking about.
Now you have what amounts to a side show for the union team with Decreasing crowds ( I may be wrong here ) and no real chance to sell the club to the city of london. The problem is that the club needs to do something and settle, but they cant have many chances left. Its all well and good saying we need a club in london, and i would agree with those sentiments. But what we need is a club in london that is easy to identify and can be sold to the public as a club in its own right. Look at what the crusaders have done, surely with a target audience of Millions something similar should not be out of the reach of a london club.
But as things stand they are failing in pretty much every department, And you can only get away with the " look at how many people are playing RL in London " excuse for so long. Its not as if Quins are the only people in the area setting down roots for the game.'"
Yeah, according to my pocket calculator Crusaders will have -294 fans by their 4th home game.... They are still in a bubble but the air would appear to be leaking out pretty fast given that it was only 6700 agin Hull who travel enmasse.
QRL are in trouble, no doubt, but their 1st home game against Sts had over 8000 iirc.
All that said however, i would strongly agree with your previous statement. Problem is - and it has been said before - that was London Broncos, but that is unfortunately history. If as the consensus would appear QRL is heading for the end of the pier itself, then where and how is that identity achieved?
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| Problem is, people look at as, say London and it's 'millions'.
Twickenham itself has a population just shy of 40,000. You can see the RU stadium from ours...it's a tough market to crack.
People have suggested following some of the London Union teams and moving out[/out of London to a smaller, closer knit community with good facilities and less competition, such as Oxford or Swindon. I could see it working more than 'trying' to be London.
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| Didn't seem to be a problem for the London Monarchs to engage a fanbase from all over back in the 90's?
If your saying Quins RL catchment is only 40,000 then they def don't belong in SL!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Didn't seem to be a problem for the London Monarchs to engage a fanbase from all over back in the 90's?
If your saying Quins RL catchment is only 40,000 then they def don't belong in SL!'"
A different sport with a larger demographic.
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