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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Shame, Gloucester seem to be of the teams having a good crack at it. Decent on-field performances with local players'"
Are you sure about that? Lots of Welsh accents when I've spoken to them, a lot of lads seem to transfer between them, Hemel, North Wales and South Wales. I suspect this Bristol side will feature a lot of the same players. Whenever I've been there, crowds have been about 100 (I know they report a bit more), so glad they have done this now rather than folding halfway through a season and leaving lads in limbo.
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| Quote ="yorksguy1865"Bristol does seem like a better place to market, being a bigger city but it does mean that we have now lost an expansion club which seems to be a bit of a backwards step unless this new club can have a decent amount of success. Im sure I'd seen that Hemel were pulling out of the competition at some point as well.'"
Bristol is a bigger city, but on already with 2 football leagues teams, a WSL team, a RU team, and country cricket team.
Whilst I work in Bristol, and live nearby, and would obviously be keen to support a Bristol based RL club, I have no idea how sustainable a link to Gloucestershire & Oxford will be.
The RLWC game held in Bristol in 2013 was quite well supported though.
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| Surely the current players wont hang around for 12 months without pay. I'm assuming it will be a new club with new players etc
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| Which stadium/ground does the new club intend to it's home fixtures?
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| Whatever happened to Bristol Sonics weren't they trying to get into Championship 1 at one point?
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| Both teams looked like there were going to collapse, the fact that the MAYBE a team somewhere in the region is a good result.
Gloucester were supposed to be Bristol in the first place which is why they hosted a World Cup game. There seemed to be some backing to have a team in the area at the time. I am not sure why they ended up in Gloucester.
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| Quote ="nathancroucher"Which stadium/ground does the new club intend to it's home fixtures?'"
I believe that it's going to be the memorial ground (currently home to Bristol RFU and Bristol Rovers ), the football club are looking to move out.
Oxford have been really struggling so no surprise regarding there situation. Gloucestershire despite doing okay on the pitch were struggling off it.
It's a shame, but when it was 1st announced you could see the problems happening.
Leads to an intresting question of which league are Bristol going to start in.
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Re - not sure on the above comments ref. Rovers leaving the Mem !?!?
They did have big plans a few years ago about selling the Mem to Sainsbury's (for development) and moving to a new ground based at UWE, but that all went a bit awry, so latest was they were going to stay put and improve the place.
www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foot ... tol-298103
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Re - not sure on the above comments ref. Rovers leaving the Mem !?!?
They did have big plans a few years ago about selling the Mem to Sainsbury's (for development) and moving to a new ground based at UWE, but that all went a bit awry, so latest was they were going to stay put and improve the place.
www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foot ... tol-298103
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| My guess would be Dings Crusaders new ground, just outside Bristol. Clifton RFC may be on the radar but no idea if they are RL friendly, Dings are and I think it is 3G so no on the road games whilst the landlord sorts out the pitch.
I hope they aren't looking at the Memorial Ground, too big and probably too expensive.
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| Quote ="luke ShipleyRed"I believe that it's going to be the memorial ground (currently home to Bristol RFU and Bristol Rovers ), the football club are looking to move out.
Oxford have been really struggling so no surprise regarding there situation. Gloucestershire despite doing okay on the pitch were struggling off it.
It's a shame, but when it was 1st announced you could see the problems happening.
Leads to an intresting question of which league are Bristol going to start in.'"
Not sure how there is a question there, it will be League 1.
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| Quote ="jpk3lly"Whatever happened to Bristol Sonics weren't they trying to get into Championship 1 at one point?'"
I sure I read somewhere that they were going to fold for some reason. Can't remember much of the actual article other than that.
I hope that they are in league 1. The only reason I asked is 2019 will be when the new league structures come in. And we know how the RFL are with big cities.
Wonder if they'd consider Bristol for the magic weekend 2019 to help get it going. Ashton Gate holds 30,000 I believe. Enough hotels and a decent city nightlife from what I've been told.
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| Quote ="luke ShipleyRed"I hope that they are in league 1. The only reason I asked is 2019 will be when the new league structures come in. And we know how the RFL are with big cities.'" How are they? Please enlighten us because I don't think anyone has any idea what you're talking about.
Bristol might get the Magic Weekend if they bid millions of pounds like other cities do.
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| Cities get mentioned a few times.
This was one from this year - [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/39258426HERE[/url
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| They would prefer more big cities to become involved in RL (I'm not saying that the clubs start at SL,Championship level). As they believe this will increase revenue, open up more sponsorship deals. And hopefully increase crowd levels with a bigger target audience.(although I'm not sure that's the case other than a few games). To spread the gosspil .This was said in an interview with Nigel Woods in League Weekly.
Whigh is why I asked which league, because other than Toronto, pretty much every expansion clubs that has started in league 1 has either folded, or been forced to move to a different location. And ALL have/are struggling.
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| We've also had a succession of clubs in the traditional heartlands struggling financially in the lower divisions. The problems are not unique to expansion clubs.
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| These clubs should have gone into a League 1 South, rather than trying to compete with traditional heartland clubs.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"We've also had a succession of clubs in the traditional heartlands struggling financially in the lower divisions. The problems are not unique to expansion clubs.'"
Totally agree, I'm not sure what the answers are. Maybe like the poster below says regionalisation of the league maybe it.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"These clubs should have gone into a League 1 South, rather than trying to compete with traditional heartland clubs.'"
Why would anyone want a 4-6 team league?
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| Quote ="bowes"Why would anyone want a 4-6 team league?'"
More clubs would be able to compete at that level than the current nationwide League 1, making it easier to start up new clubs. The league could have looked something like this.
Bristol
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| I'm not sure how the regionalisation of the league would actually help the financial viability if the clubs. It might make marginal savings on transport costs, but the cost of coach hire from South Wales to London wouldn't be that dissimilar to that of South Wales to the North West.
What RL needs at the semi pro level is a sustainable business model, and support from the governing body. Sadly both seem to be challenging/lacking.
There's plenty of hard work and dedication outside the heartlands to make RL work on a nationwide basis, there is just never enough centralised support to keep it going.
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| That’s a shame Gloucester had a top name
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"More clubs would be able to compete at that level than the current nationwide League 1, making it easier to start up new clubs. The league could have looked something like this.
Bristol
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That could never have happened, other than as a strictly amateur league. And even then the CLS folded after four seasons
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| If they received the same funding as a League 1 North I don’t see why not?
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"If they received the same funding as a League 1 North I don’t see why not?'"
1. Lack of players
2. The funding alone isn't enough to run a semi pro club and half the teams listed had zero interest in running a semi pro club
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| If you've ever benn involved in trying to run even an amateur team outside the heartlands then you'll know just how hard things are.
You'll usually end up with a groundshare with an RU club who, at best with be amiable, at worst will treat you both second class and treat you as a cash cow (you'll pay for pitch hire, and they'll keep all the bar takings, and might even charge you & players club membership).
You'll end up trying to manage some sort of youth structure, but again any income might go straight to your hosts. The RFL might send a regional coach along if you're lucky.
Travel costs will be high, a local fixture often being at least 50 miles each way.
The same small bunch of volunteers will be put upon to do everything, including competeting with RU clubs for players, funding/local sponsorship, news coverage etc.
Getting really committed RL players is tough. Many RU guys will give it a go, but coming off the back of their season they won't want to play each and every week (mmm, 25 guys for a home game, barely 13 for an away trip).
I've been involved with 3 such clubs, boy it is really hard work just at the amateur level.
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