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[iLuke Dorn - Greg Eden
Michael Robertson, Craig Hall
Dan Sarginson, - Kris Welham
David Howell, - Sean Gleeson
Kieran Dixon, - David Hodgson
Michael Witt - Travis Burns
Craig Gower - Michael Dobson
Tony Clubb - Ryan O'Hara
Chris Bailey, - Jordan Cox
Shane Rodney - Cory Paterson
Antonio Kaufusi, - Con Mika
Chad Randall, - Lincoln Withers
Mark Bryant - Rhys Lovegrove
Interchange:
Scott Wheeldon, - Mickey Pea
Olsi Krasniqi, - Evarn Tuimavave
Matt Cook, - Josh Hodgson
Tommy Lee - Adam Walker
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Not many London players I'd take over Hull KR's
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| Powell was a liability last year. Tony Rea is a better coach whether he can take us to the top 8 is another thing. We looked good towards the end of the year. Bring on the scousers first game in Feb
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| I am going to refer back to this thread throughout the season because I know I am right. All of the doubtful and dismissive people above will see that I am right.
And I know that I am right because Craig Gower is an inspirational leader who in 2012 was being undermined by a very stupid coach whom nobody respected. In 2013 the coach is a man whom all the players respect and Gower will lift the team to new heights.
There are only six teams that are certain to make the playoffs: Wigan, Warrington, St Helens, Leeds, Hull FC and Catalans. That leaves two spots for the playoffs and it will be Wakefield, Huddersfield, Hull KR and London that compete for those two spots. Gower will make the difference to put London in a very good place.
(N.B. If Gower is injured and out for the season or most of it, then what I have predicted will not apply).
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[iLuke Dorn v Richard Owen - I'd actually take Dorn, always rated him.
Michael Robertson v Kirk Dixon - Robertson is a great winger, I'd take him any day.
Dan Sarginson v Michael Shenton - Shenton is head and shoulders better.
David Howell v Jake Webster - IF Webster is fit he is miles better.
Kieran Dixon v Justin Carney - Carney is an unknown, jury's out.
Michael Witt v Rangi Chase - Chase is the best 6 in the league when in form, and better than Witt even if he plays badly.
Craig Gower v Jamie Ellis - Gower is class.
Tony Clubb v Grant Millington- We haven't got a proper 13 this year and we may suffer for it, Millington is a second rower or prop.
Chris Bailey v Lee Gilmour - Gilmour's experience and work-rate nudge him ahead.
Shane Rodney v Wellar Huaraki - Depends if we get the Leeds Huaraki or the Crusaders one. My instinct tells me he will go well as a big fish in a small pond.
Antonio Kaufusi v Craig Huby - I'd love them in the same team, like Kaufusi's size but Huby's has a better offload.
Chad Randall v Darryl Clark - Clark could be the young player of the year IMO if he stays injury free. Do rate Randall but think he has too much to do at times.
Mark Bryant v Keith Mason - Mason is better.
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Also think Cas have a slightly better bench and reserves, the likes of Milner, Walker, Massey, Holmes, Thompson, Emmitt and Tansey give us more utility, backup and competition for places. However, London have some players I enjoy watching and hope they do well in 2013.
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| Really looking forward to seeing Dixon next year. I think his potential is outstanding.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Really looking forward to seeing Dixon next year. I think his potential is outstanding.'"
I agree. This was his first year full time in the Super League. He is fast and he has a great sidestep. For such a young man he has shown great courage under the high ball. I hope that the halves and centres can give him some opportunities to find open space.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE" For such a young man he has shown great courage under the high ball. '"
By trying to catch it? That's what passes as courageous these days?
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| A good post to jinx your team.All depends on injuries and how a team gels.
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| I think we'll make the 8 in fairness, but I'm sure many fans say the same about their team. Injuries will play their part of course but I'm confident of a good season.
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| I can't honestly see me team Cas Tigers making the play-offs - but wouldn't take many from the London squad over my team. Cas Tigers 9th or 10th - London 11th or 12th.
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| I would think 8th would be the minimum aim for London this year. That squad is very capable of it and if they dont make the 8 Mr Rea should be asking some pretty serious questions .
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| Quote There are only six teams that are certain to make the playoffs: Wigan, Warrington, St Helens, Leeds, Hull FC and Catalans'"
Are Catalans certain of a top 8 finish?
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| Quote ="wire quin"Are Catalans certain of a top 8 finish?'"
Depends on what the new coach is like i suppose.
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| Really weak looking squad. Witt is terrible. Dorn or Sarginson should be above him in line to play stand-off.
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| Dorn was playing 6 towards the end of the year under Tony Rea with Robertson at 1. That worked well. I suspect Sargeson may go to 3, that said he played 6 for the Knights. Plenty of choice.
I agree about Witt-Slow and poor in defence. All he seems to have is a boot.
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| Quote ="wire quin"Are Catalans certain of a top 8 finish?'"
It is hard to imagine that a team of the talent of Catalans will not make the top 8. True they have a new French coach who is untested. But he is being assisted by a very experienced Australian coach named David Waite, who has coached Newcastle Knights and Great Britain.
The match between Catalans and London at the Magic Weekend should be very entertaining, especially the contest between the two best scrum halves in Super League, with Craig Gower up against Scott Dureau.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"It is hard to imagine that a team of the talent of Catalans will not make the top 8. True they have a new French coach who is untested. But he is being assisted by a very experienced Australian coach named David Waite, who has coached Newcastle Knights and Great Britain.
The match between Catalans and London at the Magic Weekend should be very entertaining, especially the contest between the two best scrum halves in Super League, with Craig Gower up against Scott Dureau.'"
Will you be getting to any games this year Barry?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Will you be getting to any games this year Barry?'"
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Will you be getting to any games this year Barry?'"
Not this year Henry. I find the trial games boring and lacking conviction. I will wait until next year when the Super League season proper begins.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I would think 8th would be the minimum aim for London this year. That squad is very capable of it and if they dont make the 8 Mr Rea should be asking some pretty serious questions .'"
Well Smokey you've peddled this twaddle for the past ten years - as they say if you chuck enough darts at a dartboard you will eventually get a bullseye (though probably not this time).
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Luke Dorn - [i[uRichard Mathers[/u[/i
Michael Robertson - [i[uPeter Fox[/u[/i
Dan Sarginson - [i[uDean Collis[/u[/i
David Howell - [i[uLee Smith[/u[/i
Kieran Dixon - [i[uBen Cockayne[/u[/i
Michael Witt - [i[uPaul Sykes[/u[/i
Craig Gower - [i[uTim Smith[/u[/i
Antonio Kaufusi - [i[uJustin Poore[/u[/i
Chad Randall - [i[uPaul Aiton[/u[/i
Mark Bryant - [i[uAndy Raleigh[/u[/i
Chris Bailey - [i[uAli Lauittiti[/u[/i
Shane Rodney - [i[uDanny Kirmond[/u[/i
Tony Clubb -[i[u Danny Washbrook[/u[/i
[uInterchange: [/u
Scott Wheeldon - [i[uOli Wilkes[/u[/i
Olsi Krasniqi -[i[u Kyle Amor[/u[/i
Matt Cook -[i[u Frankie Mariano[/u[/i
Tommy Lee - [i[uKyle Wood[/u[/i '"
London do have a lot of potential in their squad, but im pretty sure (On paper) that our (Wakefield) squad is alot stronger.... Although, I reckon London will finish around 10th
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| Quote ="W.T.W"London do have a lot of potential in their squad, but im pretty sure (On paper) that our (Wakefield) squad is alot stronger.... Although, I reckon London will finish around 10th
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I wouldn't say Wakefield are "a lot" stronger at all.
I'd take Dorn over Mathers
Robertson over Fox
Sarginson & Collis are about equal
Howell over Smith
Dixon has pace but Cockayne has aggression - equal
Sykes over Witt
Gower over Smith
Kaufusi over Poore
Aiton over Randall
Raleigh over Bryant
Lauitiiti over Bailey
Rodney over Kirmond
Washbrook over Clubb
Wilkes over Wheeldon
Amor over Krasniqi
Cook & Mariano equal
Lee & Wood equal
So that's 6 to London and 7 to Wakefield, with 4 equal. I think the 2 clubs won't be too far apart in the league.
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| Quote ="Him"I wouldn't say Wakefield are "a lot" stronger at all.
I'd take Dorn over Mathers
Robertson over Fox
Sarginson & Collis are about equal
Howell over Smith
Dixon has pace but Cockayne has aggression - equal
Sykes over Witt
Gower over Smith
Kaufusi over Poore
Aiton over Randall
Raleigh over Bryant
Lauitiiti over Bailey
Rodney over Kirmond
Washbrook over Clubb
Wilkes over Wheeldon
Amor over Krasniqi
Cook & Mariano equal
Lee & Wood equal
So that's 6 to London and 7 to Wakefield, with 4 equal. I think the 2 clubs won't be too far apart in the league.'"
Can't get over Poore making Bailey cry like a baby can you By what logic Kaufusi over Poore
Rodney over Kirmond is spectacularly out, unless you have based it on a reputation gained years ago.
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| Quote ="vastman"Can't get over Poore making Bailey cry like a baby can you
By what logic Kaufusi over Poore
Rodney over Kirmond is spectacularly out, unless you have based it on a reputation gained years ago.
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You really need to calm down and start acting like a grown up. "Making Bailey cry"? Are you 8 years old? Your star signing was so moronic as to get himself sent off in a friendly and you come on here gloating about that fact? Go away you stupid little boy.
If you want to discuss the relative strengths of the 2 teams then please post something less childish and pathetic.
As for Kaufusi, he played pretty well last year from what I saw, how much have you seen Poore play? From what I've seen of both I'd still take Kaufusi. As for Rodney and Kirmond, again from what I've seen of both if take Rodney though it was a close decision.
Even disregarding those 2 arguments, what makes Wakefield fans so confident as to think their squad is "A lot stronger" than London's?
I don't think London have a particularly good squad. But then neither do Wakefield, and I think both will struggle to, and probably not, make the playoffs.
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