How much is the international contract worth?

seriously? you want to go down this route again?

Under 20's viewing figures >>>>>> S15 viewing figures

Oh dear......it would appear that the arrogance of those living on the poisoned rock shows no signs of diminishing.

70k watch the warriors here on SLY TV, 400k watch super Rugby, whilst in SA, nobody watches the NRL, whilst hundreds of thousands watch S15......State of Origin attracted a combined AU/NZ audience of 4.2 million.....the RWC semi final attracted 1 million more......SoO is the pinacle of the RL calendar and it got 20% less viewers than the kick'n'clap. The NRL averages 16,000 fans per game, Australias S15 Teams averaged 19,500......

In Brisbane, the reds averaged more than the broncos, Canberra, the raiders trail the Brumbies by nearly 5k a game and the storm lag behind the rebels.....we can't compare the S15 franchise in western Aussie with an NRL team, because the NRL doesn't yet have a team west of anywhere.....National comp my @rse....



The weekend just gone saw 9,108 fans turn up to watch the 2nd placed storm.......Penrith attracted 7,437.......yet you'd have people believe that everything is AOK in the NRL




Back on Thread: Rugby League has a snowballs chance in Hell of being accepted as an Olympic Sport, based on the FACT that it is played professionally in 2 leagues GLOBALLY and because it doesn't have an internationally recognised presence around the world.....it is important in NSW and Brisbane...elsewhere it plays second fiddle the bigger and more popular code....tell me again about the u20's viewing figures....it makes you look so clever

Native New Zealanders are great..its the Euro ex pats who go live there which gives 'em a bad name.


For a marketor you aint half negative....135,000 reasons to promote union?:





Tell me youre just being stupid and arent really that naive...
Gulf/ UAE Womens 7 team in training:
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Top mens teams:
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The above pictures show the reality of unions 'global' presence at the time of the 2009 vote..You're right about the snoball in hell tho, but its feck all t do with the number of pro leagues.

see......when someone mentions the Olympics on here, someone else mentions Union 7's and the crap hits the fan.
FACT is that Rugby Union 7's, a sport governed by the IRB, is an Olympic Sport because the IOC perceived it had sufficient reach and participation numbers to warrant inclusion and no amount of insecurity or attempts at belittling Union will change that.

It's not about what game is the better sport....it's purely about which game is BIGGER.,

7's was mentioned in the op..it was a bought and paid for shill who went off on a union is bigger than Rugby League rant...again.


Heh, there was a piece in one of the broadsheets about former union player and current president of the IOCs *2005 attempt to get his sport into the olympics...the commitee ed themselves apparently.

(lol, must resist urge to post a size isnt everything joke

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Nah, not where the olympics are concerned...

Soo>>>>>>>>Bloodyslow cup

In what way? Viewing figures in Aus?

What about the WC?

You have perceived southern hemisphere to mean Australia. Is RL that big in Australia that it dwarfs union in an entire hemisphere? Are you really that arrogant?

Is that the WC using the billion people Union calculator?

Whilst we can all laugh at the ridiculousness of that figure, it still remains that despite the NRL having a huge advantage over S15, when it comes to internationals, RU absolutely dominate and more than make up for the loss in domestic. SoO is three games a year. How many games do Aus, NZ, SA and Argentina play a year? How many do they get large crowds for?

RL is massively behind RU due to this "club game's doing well" attitude.

Nonsense, a few int's a year is dwarfed by 26 rounds x 7 games + finals + soo over the course of a year.

Maybe on the eastern seaboard, but not the entire southern hemisphere.

Southern Hemisphere...head to head.

RLWC 2008:
18 Games
293,965 Fans averaging 16,331
Semi finals attendance 42,422 in stadiums with a capacity of 98,000....43%
Final attendance 50,599 96%


RWC 2013
48 Games
1,477,294 fans averaging 30,777
Semi finals attendance 118,717 ...capacity available 121,000 98%
Final attendance 61,000 100%

More people attended the last 5 games of the RWC 2011 (1X QF 2X SF 1X Final & 1 x Bronze) than watched the entire RLWC



The most watched game of Rugby of either code EVER across australasia (Including Kiwis like the NRL do so as to look bigger than the AFL)...was when 5,207,180 Viewers tuned into the RWC semi between the Aussies and AB's.....that's bigger than AFL or NRL grand Final figures and a whole 20% ahead of anything SoO can muster.

We get it JB, NRL fans are insecure little mites when it comes to other football codes and have an almost religious fanatacism with regard to TV viewing figures/attendances.........but only when it suits them.

Facts as they stand at the moment are that the NRL will get a billion dollar deal for it's TV and internet rights.....Fact is that's a massive amount of money......but it doesn't change the fact that 15 teams along the east coast of Australia as well as a team in south Auckland doesn't register anywhere else.

I was reading an old thread on insecurity central (league unlimited) the other day, where you NRL defenders of the faith were trying to laugh off the RWC Final getting 800,000 live viewers in the USA........there's another thread where the 17,241 who watched the USA v Italy was ridiculed....yet another thread that held up the 3,661 attendance for the game between Canada and Georgia as a sign of the decline of Union, but ignored the attendance in Bridgened for the Wales v France test 1,464.

Why is it that fans of RL in general refuse to accept that whilst TGG is far better as a spectacle and rightly question why more people don't get into it, that Rugby Union is a far more popular sport in those countries it is played Internationally.

I'm not knocking it, because it's a lot of fun putting you straight and watching you come out with plans for world domination once you've got your billion, but I would caution you with this.......maybe you should dig the 15 clubs that are on their s financially out of their holes before expanding even further. Penrith were in a $22,000,000 hole last time it was reported...certainly puts Bradfords debt into perspective, doesn't it

TV Viewers
Fans
Money
Interest
Potential

NRL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S15

Can't wait till the West Coast Pirates enter the NRL and blow the Force out of the water, they are financially struggling now, when the NRL comes to town they are going to really know hardship.

I see you are being true to the Rugby Union statistical reporting methodology and already releasing the attendances for the 2013 RUWC. Did a billion people watch it as well?



Te game in Australia has been hampered by 15 years of underfunding and conflicted management. That is about to change. In the next few weeks the game will have the $'s to set about what it what it started in 1995. The tide is about to change for RL down under.

You're frothing at the mouth now JB.......There is no RWC in 2013.......there is a RLWC though, which will compete head to head for attendances with end of season Union tours by the All Blacks, Australia and South Africa to the British Isles.

As for the pirates...good luck with that. Will they crush the farce like the storm have outrated the rabble?

Your the one who posted stats for an alleged rwc 2013!

Perth nrl avg crowd this year 17,500
S15 14,600

Lol

using your logic....and I use the word under advisement, Saracens should play all their games at Wembley given they'd average 83k



Again, Australia is not the entire southern hemisphere.........and RL isn't even the #1 code in Australia, let alone anywhere else

JB has become the new dally messenger!

Once again
Toyota cup under 20's >>>>>>>>>> S15

Come back when RU has any relevance in Australia!

Heh, a big week for Larndan RL and all gf wants do is talk about another sport



..like the logic of disenfranchising 73,000 of your fans by moving into a 10k detachable athletics stadium @Barnet you mean? The saffacens have extended the discounted season ticks offer...struggling to sell them apparently.


Gutts in talking down NRL shocker!!


NRL broadcast rights deal>>>>daylight>>>>bit more daylight>>>>stupid15.

Gutterfax is the new Dutoni...but without the humour obviously.

It wont happen but I said this a long time ago. Play RU 7's if you must but why not open it to league teams as well. GB1 & GB2 like you get in other sports at the games. GB1 could be Union GB2 League.

It can't happen because the irb want to use 7's in a pinky and brain like plan to takeover teh world...Tho you'd think they'd want Rugby League involved somehow, after all the Bulls did to single handedly re-invigorate the 7's concept in the UK...:

[urlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/3032924/Bradford-left-in-sevens-heaven.html[/url
...be kinda embarrassing and might lead to some awkward questions if teams consisting of RL players got Gold, Silver and Bronze

I discuss Londons RL performance, both on and off the park, in the London Boards.....this thread was about the olympics until someone whined that it wasn't fair that Union was in......


Regardless of your thoughts on the matter, please feel free to post the name of a UK RL team who averaged a bigger gate number than Saracens.....jealous much?



I don't talk it down....crowds of 7,000 or so at Penrith do that for me. The Only bone I ever had to pick with NRL fans is their insane world domination attitude, which given that RL plays second fiddle to fumbleball, is utterly insane.

It really hasn't sunk in yet has it? Nobody....and I mean nobody outside of NSW, Queensland and South Auckland gives a flying toss about the NRL or their TV deal.......the wierd thing is that most NRL fans that occupy internet forums spend far more time discussing TV viewing figures and broadcast rights contracts than they do the game.



I am Gutterfax.......I am not the new anyone jd.....though it would seem that because EA, eels, Old Darlin, dally messenger, manly4ever et al can't post on here any more due to excess frothing at the gills, you are substituting for them......badly



Back on thread.

The International Olympic Committee require a sport to be played in 75 countries for it to be considered.....that's why RL in either the XIII or IX versions will not be in the games for a while. All other conspiracy theories are just that...theories that have nothing to back them up

If you mean at their Home ground @Watford, then it'd be quicker to name the ones that didn't...they did quite well in the event games, tho a 99 yr lease on a 10k stadium @Barnet suggests that was short lived and not sustainable.


Biggest sport in 8(or was it 7? meh) out of the 10 most populated cities in Aus...and has a broadcast rights deal greater than the played in three countries stupid 15...


You forgot 18,000 ppl in Perth...Oh and a slightly dodgy fella in Wellington.

You remember the link I posted to the seppo union blog? Did you go on there and have a dig about your fellow unionites thoughts on RL? I'm guessing not.


Now Dutts...err..I mean Gutts..teh only foaming on this thread has come from a brave defender of the union faith.






Back on thread.


Yes, of course....Im sure 7's was played in the requisite number of countries back in 2009...wheres that flying pig gif gone...