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| Quote ="Adeybull"Agree entirely.
Based on final placings, it would be:
Warrington v Wigan
St Helens v Huddersfield
Leeds v Catalans
Hull KR v Hull FC
Castleford v Bradford
Salford v London
Wakefield v Widnes
They don't look so bad? Or especially unfair, other than Cats might have grounds for complaint (could always switch Cats and Hudds...)
Not sure how it would look based on play-off rankings instead.'"
based on final standings it would be:
Leeds v Saints
Warrington v Wigan
Huddersfield v Catalans
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"They play their last home game on the 13th May. The Magic weekend will be two weeks later then they will lay a new pitch for the new PL season.'"
makes sense, I believe they are short of a bob or two - so their owners will be pleased.
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| Quote ="SFW"As has been mentioned, looks like the Etihad Stadium at the end of May for this year's Magic.'"
Any links for this?
Guessing there are no concerts on this year. As that ground is only allowed x amount of non football events each year.
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| Quote ="dids858"Any links for this?
Guessing there are no concerts on this year. As that ground is only allowed x amount of non football events each year.'"
I've been told so no link, a few of the RL press guys on Twitter have alluded to it in the last few weeks aswell.
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| why dont they have odd v even
1 v 3
2 v 4
5 v 7
6 v 8
9 v 11
10 v 12
then 13 v widnes
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| Would like to see it at City my self being a Salford fan it's a lot closer to me sowould suit me fine , no train fare or stay over. Great. Plus the stadium isn't to big
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"They play their last home game on the 13th May. The Magic weekend will be two weeks later then they will lay a new pitch for the new PL season.'"
Probaby be the bank holiday June 2/3.
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| Quote ="number 6"why dont they have odd v even
1 v 3
2 v 4
5 v 7
6 v 8
9 v 11
10 v 12
then 13 v widnes'"
Not really an odds vs evens system if the last one isn't odd vs evens.
I think that sticking with attractive fixtures is the best way to go. Doesn't necessarily have to be derbies.
Wigan vs Wire
Saints vs Leeds
Widnes vs Salford
Bradford vs Huddersfield
Wakefield vs Hull FC
Castleford vs Hull KR
London vs Catalans
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Asking Bulls (again) to play Leeds would be totally unfair. Team that finished 10th vs SL Champions? You are having a laugh.
And if they DID stick to "local derbies" then you would have the new boys Widnes playing Warrington - again, you are having a laugh.
I do not agree with this invented extra fixture if it counts for SL points. Never have and never will. It can never be fair.'"
Millennium Magic 2007.
Hull FC (Grand Finalists and 2nd in table) vs Hull KR (newly promoted)
As painful as it is for me to bring that game up, who won?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Not really an odds vs evens system if the last one isn't odd vs evens.
I think that sticking with attractive fixtures is the best way to go. Doesn't necessarily have to be derbies.
Wigan vs Wire
Saints vs Leeds
Widnes vs Salford
Bradford vs Huddersfield
=#FF0000Wakefield vs Hull FC
Castleford vs Hull KR
London vs Catalans'"
Those 2 could be switched and played as derby matches, similar league positions not too much of a mismatch
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Those 2 could be switched and played as derby matches, similar league positions not too much of a mismatch'"
That's what I did at first, but was trying to emphasise that it didn't need to be derbies.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Not really an odds vs evens system if the last one isn't odd vs evens.
I think that sticking with attractive fixtures is the best way to go. Doesn't necessarily have to be derbies.
Wigan vs Wire
Saints vs Leeds
Widnes vs Salford
Bradford vs Huddersfield
Wakefield vs Hull FC
Castleford vs Hull KR
London vs Catalans'"
tbh, i only posted that system so we dont have the fc v kr overkill again this coming season
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| I like the idea of draws
Annouce it and then straight after, draw out 8 teams, those 8 play Saturday the other 6 Sunday.
Of those 8 & 6 draw lots 30 mins before kickoff for the first game and at half time for the 2nd and half time for the 3rd, the 4th match will know at the same time by deduction.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I like the idea of draws
Annouce it and then straight after, draw out 8 teams, those 8 play Saturday the other 6 Sunday.
Of those 8 & 6 draw lots 30 mins before kickoff for the first game and at half time for the 2nd and half time for the 3rd, the 4th match will know at the same time by deduction.'"
But then we're left with the prospect of unattractive games like we had in Edinburgh.
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| Teams can't prepare for their opponents though, makes it interesting.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Teams can't prepare for their opponents though, makes it interesting.'"
I agree.....
So why not have:-
1st V 2nd
3rd V 4th
5th V 6th
7th V 8th
9th V 10th
11th V 12th
13th V 14th
But using the league positions from the Monday before the magic weekend? (Although if like last year two teams may have a game in hand if the World Club fixture weekend fixture hasn't been arranged in time).
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| Quote ="Paul124897"Andy Wilson thinks it's going to be played at Manchester City's ground. Awful decision if true.. you don't get the pub and bar scene there like you do in Wales even though it's close enough to being in the city Centre.'"
Couldn't agree more. As nice a city as Edinburgh is & the relatively short distance from Murrayfield to the city centre, the fact that the Millennium Stadium is in the middle of Cardiff makes it a great venue for all the teams playing in the same place over a weekend.
While I've nothing against Manchester (despite it being on the dark side of the hill!!! ) I struggle to see the benefit that RL gets as a sport by holding the Magic Weekend at a venue in the sport's heartland. IMHO the weekend needs to be held at a stadium that is less than 5 minutes walk from the city centre and is outside of the heartland. I accept that this means higher travel and accommodation costs for the fans, but I think it will be better for spreading the sport to a wider audience.
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| St James Park might have been a better option if a City Centre stadium was wanted, I've walked from the City Centre to the ground and it's not that long a walk, plenty of places to eat and drink during the day, good night life and banter during the evening. Would be a chance to make a ground look more full as St James Park is around 52,000, whereas the Millenium Stadium is closer to 75,000.
It would seem that the RFL have trumped for lower travelling costs for the heartlands rather than what is wanted by all supporters which is an event, rather than just the ability to watch SL fixtures live.
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| Hey, here's an idea, how about we let Wigan play someone not called St. Helens this year? No? Just a thought...
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Hey, here's an idea, how about we let Wigan play someone not called St. Helens this year? No? Just a thought...'"
You want to play us this year instead?
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| Quote ="RDM"Couldn't agree more. As nice a city as Edinburgh is & the relatively short distance from Murrayfield to the city centre, the fact that the Millennium Stadium is in the middle of Cardiff makes it a great venue for all the teams playing in the same place over a weekend.
While I've nothing against Manchester (despite it being on the dark side of the hill!!!
) I struggle to see the benefit that RL gets as a sport by holding the Magic Weekend at a venue in the sport's heartland. IMHO the weekend needs to be held at a stadium that is less than 5 minutes walk from the city centre and is outside of the heartland. I accept that this means higher travel and accommodation costs for the fans, but I think it will be better for spreading the sport to a wider audience.'"
Manchester isn't really the sport's heartlands though is it? The benefit of Cardiff wasn't really to spread the Gospel, it was because the Welsh Tourist Board gave the RFL some money. I don't know if Manchester Council will be doing something similar, but the benefit of holding an event like this in Manchester is the newly opened MediaCity.
Plus, CoMS, IMO, is a good choice. Its only a 1.5 mile walk from Piccadilly. If you go down Dulcie St, you take in one end of the Northern Quarter (plenty of places to eat and drink) and then head through New Islington, a regeneration project. I haven't been down that end of Manchester for a while now, but hopefully they'll have some places to drink and eat now.
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| It should be kept as rivalries. There is no way you can get an extra fixture to be completely fair so you may as well make it as good as possible
Fixtures would be:
Leeds v Bradford
Saints v Wigan
Warrington v Widnes
Hull FC v Hull KR
Catalan v Harlequins
Wakefield v Huddersfield
Castleford v Salford
I know some of these aren't rivalries but they are still good games.
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| Quote ="fredster23199"It should be kept as rivalries. There is no way you can get an extra fixture to be completely fair so you may as well make it as good as possible
Fixtures would be:
Leeds v Bradford
Saints v Wigan
Warrington v Widnes
Hull FC v Hull KR
Catalan v Harlequins
Wakefield v Huddersfield
Castleford v Salford
I know some of these aren't rivalries but they are still good games.
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Did so well until the end!
Castleford vs Wakefield and Salford vs Huddersfield makes far more sense.
The first one is actually a derby, and the second one there are no other teams between the two places.
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| [iSaturday[/i
Hull F.C. vs Hull K.R.
Leeds vs Bradford
London vs Catalan
Warrington vs Widnes
[iSunday[/i
Wigan vs St Helens
Huddersfield vs Castleford
Wakefield vs Salford
Either that or do a draw based on play offs and 9-14
Main - Leeds vs St Helens, Warrington vs Wigan
Second - Huddersfield vs Catalan, Hull FC vs Hull KR
Draw 3 - Castleford vs Bradford, Salford vs London , Wakefield vs Widnes
[iSaturday[/i
Wigan vs Warrington
Huddersfield vs Catalan
Castleford vs Bradford
Wakefield vs Widnes
[iSunday[/i
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Hull FC vs Hull KR
Salford vs London
Or option 3 a draw
Draw 1 Warrington, Wigan, St Helens, Leeds (based on GF)
Draw 2 Huddersfield, Hull, Hull KR, Catalan
Draw 3 Castleford, Bradford, Wakefield, London, Widnes, Salford
Personally i like option 1 or 2 (prefer 2)
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| Quite happy with 1v2, 3v4, 5v6 etc etc but only if it was based on the table the week before the magic weekend took place. That way every game would be massive bar those right at the bottom.
The magic novelty has worn off though. Us Wigan and Saints fans won't really want to see our sides meet again just three weeks after the first ever derby at the new Saints ground. We love our derby but we ended up with 6 last year and it dilutes it a lot playing that many!
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