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| Yesterday was a foregone conclusion. You could see for the past 2 weeks Wane was hell bent on winning this game and wasn't taking any chances. All Wigan fans that didn't go saved themselves £25 to go towards the Wembley weekend. Common sense from the Wigan fans.
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| RIGHT! Can everyone stop having a go at Huddersfield for their crap support as they are obviously tetchy about it? Better now?
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"Here's some stars for you:-
2011- Wigan v St.helens- Warrington - 12700
Average of 6350 per club
Leeds v Castleford- Doncaster- 13158
Average of 6500 per club
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Leeds v Wigan- Huddersfield- 12800
Average of 6400 per club
Huddersfield v Warrington- Salford- 9500
Average of 4750 per club
Are people getting the trend? Clubs tend to take between 4000 and 6000 to a semi final. Wigan today took 6000 London took 100. One teams support is consistent with the trends!'"
There are some Huddersfield fans on here who don’t appear to have understood a previous posters comments.
In essence, what the facts and figures show from the last two seasons Challenge cup semis is that the number of Wigan fans at yesterdays game was about the current going rate for one club at a semi final.
Wigan cannot be responsible for the fact that virtually no London fans or neutral fans turned up.
Judging by the comments of the Huddersfield fans, I’m now expecting 10K from Hull & 10K from Warrington to turn up at todays game - we shall see.
No doubt if that quaint Yorkshire village of Huddersfield (population 146000) had played the vast metropolis of Wigan (population 81000) yesterday, Leigh would have been swamped with at least 3000 extra fans.
On second thoughts, I've changed my mind. For the next big cup match not involving Wigan were less than the current 6K average from each club turn up, Wigan should accept full responsibility for that as well. It is all Wigans fault.
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| Another one missing the point. The main reason people are having a go of the low crowd is because of the proximity of the venue to Wigan. A short cab ride for many fans. Sad though how RL fans in general will slate 'meaningless' league games yet not turn out when a place in a Wembley final is up for grabs.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"Another one missing the point. The main reason people are having a go of the low crowd is because of the proximity of the venue to Wigan. A short cab ride for many fans. Sad though how RL fans in general will slate 'meaningless' league games yet not turn out when a place in a Wembley final is up for grabs.'"
Surely it's you who misses the point, because Wigan didn't have a low turn out.
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| If we're generous and say the 274 were Landan fans, then 6,000 isn't a bad turnout for what was always going to be a mismatch. I'll bet the RFL will be happy if Hull & Wire turn up with 6,000 fans each at Huddersfield today.
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| If you got the same crowd for a 'meaningless' home league game vs London it would be classed as a low turnout?
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| Well this is embarrassing. If Huddersfield were playing London yesterday the crowd would have been less than 3k, Wigan did their bit. Why should they be criticised for the low turnout? London had around 50 fans there ffs.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"If you got the same crowd for a 'meaningless' home league game vs London it would be classed as a low turnout?'"
You seem desperate to criticise Wigan for the lack of London fans.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Regarding the neutrality of the venue. In 1986 Leeds played 2 Challenge Cup semis (inc. a replay) at Elland Road.'"
Aye and I was there both times. However the replay did attract 32000 with people still coming in at half time. Although there were only 5/6000 of the crowd left at fulltime.
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| We should have taken more but it's a sign of the times sadly. It's appalling to think our following yesterday will be the biggest any of the 4 teams have at one of these two semi finals.
If Huddersfield had been playing a semi, even at home against London they'd have had about half of that crowd yesterday so I dont get where that comparison is coming from. They have a cracking team and I've nothing against their fans that go but the club has offered season tickets for next to nowt in the past and have had all sorts of cheap ticket deals on and the crowds still don't turn in.
It's a shame.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Aye and I was there both times. However the replay did attract 32000 with people still coming in at half time. Although there were only 5/6000 of the crowd left at fulltime.
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I was their to Paul harking had a great game if I remember right happy days
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| Shocking crowd for a CC semi, don't wrap it up or find excuses, it's embarrassing.
For sure London didn't bring many fans but for all of the "loyal" Wigan fans that will no doubt make the effort to go to Wembley, it's just embarrassing.
8 miles, sun shining, a place at Wembley up for grabs, it's easy to see why you wouldn't support your team
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| Quote ="Cronus"As I've just said on the other thread: let's say the semi had been against Saints at the Halliwell Jones. Wigan take 6,000 and Saints take 6,000 and suddenly we're all fairly happy there's a 12,000 crowd on in a CC semi-final. 12-13,000 is fairly average for a CC semi.
And that's a conservative hypothetical example. When given a higher quality of opposition and the prospect of a closer game, more would probably choose to go. London were never going to win today, everyone knew that and it showed.
Get a grip. When one side brings next to no-one, the attendance will be poor.
But don't let that get in the way of both those brain cells enjoying a rant.'"
This. 6,000 is about the average following for one team to a semi final.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Shocking crowd for a CC semi, don't wrap it up or find excuses, it's embarrassing.
For sure London didn't bring many fans but for all of the "loyal" Wigan fans that will no doubt make the effort to go to Wembley, it's just embarrassing.
8 miles, sun shining, a place at Wembley up for grabs, it's easy to see why you wouldn't support your team
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Makes me laugh all this. Whats it matter to you or your club, you'll probably never, ever play at wembley. How many would you take to a semi? Baring in mind it was a dead heat and £26 in the seats.
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"I was their to Paul harking had a great game if I remember right happy days
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He didn't have a great first game though. Sent off for tripping.
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| I'm pretty sure it's not Wigan, London or Huddersfield fans who are to blame for poor attendances, lack of interest and inconsequential nature of the Challenge Cup these days. I am pretty sure it is the fault of Super League, summer rugby and the bull culture that goes with it.
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| 6k Wigan supporters isn't brilliant ... but its not terrible either.
It was never going to be a classic game was it?
Lets see what today's match and attendance brings.
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| Quote ="William Eve"I'm pretty sure it's not Wigan, London or Huddersfield fans who are to blame for poor attendances, lack of interest and inconsequential nature of the Challenge Cup these days. I am pretty sure it is the fault of Super League, summer rugby and the bull culture that goes with it.'"
When did the rants turn so obviously against the switch to summer rugby?
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| the two games are completely non-comparable.
Wigan-London as a CC semi has a problem of one side obviously going on to win (Wigan), that side being local, the almost-certainly-losing opposition being several hundred miles away, and the game being on TV. Result: The local fans have a choice of spending lots of money to see a walkover they could see for free, the far away fans have the choice of paying several hundred quid to watch a hammering they could watch for free.
Put Fax or Fev or Leigh in that QF and you get a crowd, because the game's local and a non-regular opportunity to play one of the top sides in SL, the TV and likely result are less important.
Now compare and contrast with Huddersfield. A Team at the top of Super League, playing some of the most attractive rugby seen recently in SL, the only team in a town of 150,000 people and a wider Borough of 400,000. Yet that team can't get 10,000 supporters to turn up week in week out, despite hugely more success and investment than they've had in previous years.
The worry with Huddersfield's attendances is whether the good people of Fartown will turn up & support their team. Ken Davy is losing money hand over fist keeping that team together, and unless people turn up to watch he will eventually cut ties. At which point the question becomes where Giants should get places in the SL hierarchy. If they've had every opportunity to become a truly big club and the fans have turned it down, why should we care about keeping them in SL over the likes of Wakefield or Hull KR, who get the same number of fans with far less success?
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Would have probably been better attended at Warrington or St. Helens. The journey from Wigan to Leigh and back is awful. No train service. The road between to two towns is awful and for some reason seems to constantly have roadworks on it.'"
What an utterly pathetic excuse, shame on you.
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"What an utterly pathetic excuse, shame on you.'"
LOL, criticizing Wigan fans, the group, along with Leeds, who've kept the sport in existence at all.
(And last time I looked Leeds was a bit bigger than Wigan)
If you want to critisize Wigan fans, start by telling us which massively supported club you follow home and away without fail.
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| Quote ="Bovrick"When did the rants turn so obviously against the switch to summer rugby?
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I'm not sure. I don't think he knows either. But just keeps repeating it over and over regardless. Which is very strange considering the god awful state RL was in prior to SL.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"6k Wigan supporters isn't brilliant ... but its not terrible either.
It was never going to be a classic game was it?
Lets see what today's match and attendance brings.'"
10,621. So basically we took more to a foregone conclusion than Wire and Hull managed to take for one of the best semis in years.
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| Quote ="Bovrick"When did the rants turn so obviously against the switch to summer rugby?
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I'd be very interested in what you consider to be the reasons for the lack of interest and diminishing relevance of the Challenge Cup if you don't think it's because of Super League and the switch to summer rugby.
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