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| Quote ="Donnyman"=#FF0000Who are you? Are you really posting in good faith?
Several "contributors" to this site don't post in good faith as they prefer to wind people up, where they demand "proof" of everything said, yet never produce a shred of "evidence" themselves. If you do not want to take it in good faith that the French clubs are guests, if you do not want to look up the fact Les Catalans didn't vote on this last TV deal as they were guests then don't.
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| Quote ="atomic"Anyone outside of the UK is a guest.'"
FWIW - I'd suggest it's probably anyone who competes in a league governed by anyone who isn't their national body - which could then essentially include the two current professional Welsh clubs also......
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"FWIW - I'd suggest it's probably anyone who competes in a league governed by anyone who isn't their national body - which could then essentially include the two current professional Welsh clubs also......'"
Again it’s anyone outside of the UK is a guest.
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"What is the actual "criteria" for 'Full Time ' anyway, how does the RFL decide who's FT and who's PT, if the Broncos employed someone "Part-Time' would that change their status, or if Batley employed one 'full timer' would it change theirs, is it the bulk of staff, the bulk of the squad or just the first team?'"
I think I already stated it somewhere. If a L1/CH club has budgeted or spending 750k on players wages they are classed as full-time.
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| Quote ="atomic"Again it’s anyone outside of the UK is a guest.'"
Nope, the RFL is the governing body for RL in England, Wales Rugby League (WRL) is the governing body for RL in Wales, (with Scotland RL, and RL Ireland the governing bodies for RL in those areas).
The Championship, League One and Two are all RFL governed competitions - where all teams outside England are essentially partaking as "guests".
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| Quote ="atomic"I think I already stated it somewhere. If a L1/CH club has budgeted or spending 750k on players wages they are classed as full-time.'"
So I guess the trick would be to get "Players" wages to £749,999.99p, then employ everyone else as a gardner, butler, etc at your home, or as a "consultant" for your regular non-rugby business's to top up their money, lmao.
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| There is a serious point to the non travel to Toulouse, in that, it gives Toulouse a huge, huge advantage in the league table.
If they are guaranteed 6/7 24 - 0 home wins, plus any other victories that come their way, they have a massive advantage over the rest of the clubs in The Championship, which makes an absolute mockery of the competition.
It seems bizarre that we could go into the season with this arrangement in place.
There may be good intentions behind the "rule" but, the reality is that Toulouse, one of the favourites to make the Championship GF, are gaining unfair advantage over their promotion rivals, especially if any of the other "contenders" follow the same route as London and choose not to travel.
In order to protect the integrity of the competition, an urgent remedy is required.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"There is a serious point to the non travel to Toulouse, in that, it gives Toulouse a huge, huge advantage in the league table.
If they are guaranteed 6/7 24 - 0 home wins, plus any other victories that come their way, they have a massive advantage over the rest of the clubs in The Championship, which makes an absolute mockery of the competition.
It seems bizarre that we could go into the season with this arrangement in place.
There may be good intentions behind the "rule" but, the reality is that Toulouse, one of the favourites to make the Championship GF, are gaining unfair advantage over their promotion rivals, especially if any of the other "contenders" follow the same route as London and choose not to travel.
In order to protect the integrity of the competition, an urgent remedy is required.'"
May i politely suggest you read the operational rules regarding the requirement of teams travelling to Toulouse.
One you have completed that task it think you will probably delete this rediculous post.
Good lad
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| Quote ="RagingBull"May i politely suggest you read the operational rules regarding the requirement of teams travelling to Toulouse.
One you have completed that task it think you will probably delete this rediculous post.
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Either way, everyone agreed to the rules by virtue of continuing to participate, if your unhappy with them, the time to object was when you were asked to agree with them, not weeks/months later. I believe it is unfair, both on the French Club's main rivals and all Full Time teams, but, it was agreed upon, so lets just crack on.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"There is a serious point to the non travel to Toulouse, in that, it gives Toulouse a huge, huge advantage in the league table.
If they are guaranteed 6/7 24 - 0 home wins, plus any other victories that come their way, they have a massive advantage over the rest of the clubs in The Championship, which makes an absolute mockery of the competition.
It seems bizarre that we could go into the season with this arrangement in place.
There may be good intentions behind the "rule" but, the reality is that Toulouse, one of the favourites to make the Championship GF, are gaining unfair advantage over their promotion rivals, especially if any of the other "contenders" follow the same route as London and choose not to travel.
In order to protect the integrity of the competition, an urgent remedy is required.'"
Well they will gain unfair advantage. Unfortunately for London they went down another unfair route instead of simply playing the game.
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| Quote ="RagingBull"May i politely suggest you read the operational rules regarding the requirement of teams travelling to Toulouse.
One you have completed that task it think you will probably delete this rediculous post.
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Thanks for the advice, really.(btw it's ridiculous, not the advice, just the spelling )
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Thanks for the advice, really.(btw it's ridiculous, not the advice, just the spelling
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Didn't have you down as a member of the cheap shot grammar police.
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| Quote ="happyjack"Didn't have you down as a member of the cheap shot grammar police.'"
sorry HJ, couldn't resist.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Toulouse have been awarded a 24 - 0 "walkover" '"
I think that will backfire big time if they win promotion to superleague on points difference and the difference between them and their rivals is only a few points.
I can see court cases By all means give them the 2 league points but to widen their points difference as well is monstrous.
The reward of the 2 points is more than enough
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Quote ="Donnyman"I think that will backfire big time if they win promotion to superleague on points difference and the difference between them and their rivals is only a few points.
I can see court cases
By all means give them the 2 league points but to widen their points difference as well is monstrous.
The reward of the 2 points is more than enough'"
There may be more complaints should London Broncos,wanting a level playing field,not be fined and have a points deduction, as another full - time club faced with a fixture in France
https://laptrinhx.com/news/salford-reve ... YQqg4/amp/
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I can see court cases
By all means give them the 2 league points but to widen their points difference as well is monstrous.
The reward of the 2 points is more than enough'"
There may be more complaints should London Broncos,wanting a level playing field,not be fined and have a points deduction, as another full - time club faced with a fixture in France
https://laptrinhx.com/news/salford-reve ... YQqg4/amp/
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| So, with the rules around clubs travelling Toulouse decided by s/c spend, there will be a number of clubs who would prefer not to travel and they will either postpone the fixture or, not play at all due to covid, which contrary to my previous post, could actually count against Toulouse.
OK, they benefited from a 24 - 0 score being awarder in their favour for the Broncos "no show" but, how will thy fare over the course of the season.
There aren't too many Championship clubs spending over the s/c threshold, although it's difficult to find any actual figures for this.
Which leaves some "big" spending clubs who will be prepared to travel, some who will not (like London) and then a number of smaller spending clubs who probably wont travel.
Although league position will be decided base on % of games won, this is a right royal mess.
Toulouse will benefit if the "big spenders" dont travel but, overall, by not playing too many games at home, there will be an huge disadvantage, with them having to rely on their away form.
If things get tight towards the business end of the season, the success of Toulouse and indeed the other challengers may well come down to willingness to travel and not results on the field of play.
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| £42,000 for salford to go play a game of rugby in france
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| Quote ="snowie"£42,000 for salford to go play a game of rugby in france
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You don't think super league will contribute for their officials then?
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| Quote ="happyjack"Didn't have you down as a member of the cheap shot grammar police.'"
He’s a Labour supporter. Cheap shots are all they have.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"He’s a Labour supporter. Cheap shots are all they have.'"
IRONY OVERLOAD
Have you any opinion on the Toulouse situation and whether clubs should travel and if so, whether any club should be exempt and for what reason ?
Just asking
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| Quote ="snowie"£42,000 for salford to go play a game of rugby in france
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Paul King Salford director......
[i“I sympathise with Catalans. If it wasn’t for their owner Bernard Guasch’s money, how would they compete? “Not going was never really a serious option. It’s something I considered for maybe half a day. “Would we really want a £15,000 fine and a 10-point deduction? a 10-point deduction is a serious situation".[/i
The reality is if Salford had decided not to go they effectively would be facing relegation. Whilst this is an extraordinary situation it still highlights the total drift in strategy where we have this one club so far out on a limb contributing nothing much to the game here and certainly nothing to the game in France, whose presence now threatens Salford's bank balance if not their survival as a pro club.
Notwithstanding the same nonsense being repeated with Toulouse.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Paul King Salford director......
[i“I sympathise with Catalans. If it wasn’t for their owner Bernard Guasch’s money, how would they compete? “Not going was never really a serious option. It’s something I considered for maybe half a day. “Would we really want a £15,000 fine and a 10-point deduction? a 10-point deduction is a serious situation".[/i
The reality is if Salford had decided not to go they effectively would be facing relegation. Whilst this is an extraordinary situation it still highlights the total drift in strategy where we have this one club so far out on a limb contributing nothing much to the game here and certainly nothing to the game in France, whose presence now threatens Salford's bank balance if not their survival as a pro club.
Notwithstanding the same nonsense being repeated with Toulouse.'"
Very true.
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| Quote ="The Silent H"Can anyone be bothered anymore to call out the mistruths two posts above?'" looks like you can at 2.20 am in the morning is it keeping you up can't you sleep
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