Not many of those though......

There some teams who do live within their means, but that's not what Steph Curry was implying. He reckons that the Cap is holding the game back and I pointed out that of the 28 sides in the top tiers of the 2 comps, maybe 3 or possibly 4 are breaking even or making a small profit.
SBW has been signed for an eye-watering amount. If there were 27 other club owners who can afford £2,600,000 a year on one player, then yeah, i'd be up for a bigger or no cap, but the reality is that they're predominantly making a loss under their current cap rules and there is no evidence that paying players from the same player pool more money will change that.

The NRL, who lead the game in terms of attendance and revenues have a cap that is AU $9.1 million. That's £4,800,000. SBW is on over 54% of the NRL cap for an entire squad......how many NRL clubs are demanding a raised cap?

Brian Noble likes spending other peoples money, which Brian McDermott's player development track record is nothing to shout about either, but I suspect both like to tell Mr Argyle what he likes to hear

But then again. Steph Curry is a troll who like his alter-ego's simply wants to poke fun at heartland sides and by claiming Wakefield are holding the game back, he's getting his jollies

How much profit do the owners of Man City make? How much profit does Robert kraft make on the patriots? How much profit does pat Riley make on Miami heat. Zilch.

Profit has nothing to do with it.

My point is, the people with money aren’t allowed to spend it because London broncos and Wakefield will get upset it’s not fair.

That is the reason our sport has gone backwards and is now an embarrassment. It’s basic business that to grow you have to spend. But it’s ok though because Wakefield didn’t get relegated so the cap is working

so your blaming the state of the game on London and Wakefield

stupid boy pike

The Salary Cap hinders rich clubs from spending on bigger names. Therefore the bigger names don’t come over here, the bigger names we do have leave for NRL/Union, the sponsors look at our ever decreasing quality game and don’t get on board, lack of sponsors means lack of investment, lack of investment would eventually lead to the rich clubs possibly losing their rich owners or higher incomes due to lack of interest in the game and the game will die.

Get this decades-out-of-date Salary Cap lifted, considerably!

More money means more investment, better players coming over, better players staying here, players who are playing for the top sides now would be playing lower down SL therefore the mean quality of the league will rise, better quality will see more investment, more investment will attract new investors to clubs and new sponsors to clubs and the league and to players too, better standard and more money in the game will attracts the TV companies and from then on you don’t look back.

Quote ="Steph Curry"How much profit do the owners of Man City make? How much profit does Robert kraft make on the patriots? How much profit does pat Riley make on Miami heat. Zilch. Profit has nothing to do with it. My point is, the people with money aren’t allowed to spend it because London broncos and Wakefield will get upset it’s not fair. That is the reason our sport has gone backwards and is now an embarrassment. It’s basic business that to grow you have to spend. But it’s ok though because Wakefield didn’t get relegated so the cap is working'" City are now the fifth most profitable club in world football. https://gameofthepeople.com/2019/05/30/ ... all-clubs/ City have been self sufficient for around five years and now spend the money they make themselves rather than the owner’s money. Sheikh Mansour will almost certainly be taking a cut of those profits.

Quote ="Steph Curry"How much profit do the owners of Man City make? How much profit does Robert kraft make on the patriots? How much profit does pat Riley make on Miami heat. Zilch. Profit has nothing to do with it. My point is, the people with money aren’t allowed to spend it because London broncos and Wakefield will get upset it’s not fair. That is the reason our sport has gone backwards and is now an embarrassment. It’s basic business that to grow you have to spend. But it’s ok though because Wakefield didn’t get relegated so the cap is working'" City are now the fifth most profitable club in world football. https://gameofthepeople.com/2019/05/30/ ... all-clubs/ City have been self sufficient for around five years and now spend the money they make themselves rather than the owner’s money. Sheikh Mansour will almost certainly be taking a cut of those profits.

When did the RFL mention anything like this Lebron ? RL clubs can't be spending money they have not got, look what it did to Wigan in their most successful period in the 90's (had to sell their ground to pay off outstanding debts) despite huge crowds, and big name sponsors.

Budge,you will have to wait a while for a reply, Capcurry will be sleeping........It's 1.41am in Cronulla.

Steph Curry's argument relies on the fact there are people in existence out there with a tonne of money that want to throw it at some Rugby League club ina town they've never heard of. Pure delusion.

Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"City are now the fifth most profitable club in world football. https://gameofthepeople.com/2019/05/30/ ... all-clubs/ City have been self sufficient for around five years and now spend the money they make themselves rather than the owner’s money. Sheikh Mansour will almost certainly be taking a cut of those profits.'" Same as Kraft the patriot owner, he's been raking it in for a few years at the Patriots. operating income last season was 260million. I'm not sure why Lebron was talking about Pat Riley, he's a president not an owner- The Heat is owned by Micky Arison does, an Israeli Billionaire and no doubt with how well the NBA are doing atm with their eyes on China and their 300 million basketball players, and annual revenue growing outside the U.S. at a rate in the high teens. Interestingly NBA teams are more profitable than ever. In the beginning of the decade, more than half the teams in the NBA were losing money. Last year, the Cleveland Cavaliers were the only team to lose money by Forbes’ count. The average earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, or EBITDA, is now $61 million per NBA team is double what it was two seasons ago.Teams have benefited from pro basketball’s $24 billion TV contract with TNT and ESPN. Also the collective-bargaining agreement signed in late 2011. It cut the percentage of basketball-related income going to the players from 57% to 51%..

Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"City are now the fifth most profitable club in world football. https://gameofthepeople.com/2019/05/30/ ... all-clubs/ City have been self sufficient for around five years and now spend the money they make themselves rather than the owner’s money. Sheikh Mansour will almost certainly be taking a cut of those profits.'" Same as Kraft the patriot owner, he's been raking it in for a few years at the Patriots. operating income last season was 260million. I'm not sure why Lebron was talking about Pat Riley, he's a president not an owner- The Heat is owned by Micky Arison does, an Israeli Billionaire and no doubt with how well the NBA are doing atm with their eyes on China and their 300 million basketball players, and annual revenue growing outside the U.S. at a rate in the high teens. Interestingly NBA teams are more profitable than ever. In the beginning of the decade, more than half the teams in the NBA were losing money. Last year, the Cleveland Cavaliers were the only team to lose money by Forbes’ count. The average earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, or EBITDA, is now $61 million per NBA team is double what it was two seasons ago.Teams have benefited from pro basketball’s $24 billion TV contract with TNT and ESPN. Also the collective-bargaining agreement signed in late 2011. It cut the percentage of basketball-related income going to the players from 57% to 51%..

True, him and Jean aren't online at the moment...

Yep,soon as he clambers out of his pit,he'll be ready to start his usual crap, and start his winding up to get folk in bother.

Name a dozen "big names" who've left for Union or the NRL in the last decade. If you can, then that' just over 1 a year...hardly a drain on a 12 club comp with upwards of 360 paid professionals on their books.

Rugby League sponsors are booze, fags and bookies. Ciggies are no longer allowed, so it's booze and bookies. Booze is borderline, so now it's bookies. We are a budget sport and whether we pay SBW £2.5 million or £2.50, Microsoft aren't going to be knocking on our door soon.

Find 11 more argyles and yeah....let's play, but 1 bloke winning everything because he can outspend the rest is what we had with Wigan and that nearly killed us!

And soon there will be a cap on formula one due to teams not being able to compete with the rich teams

Let F1 do what it wants. RL outside of the heartlands is WIGAN to most folk in the UK and that's purely down to them buying the lot for a decade or more...clubs that tried to play catch up nearly died or did die.....it's a formula for disaster in a sport that get's little public attention.
The F1 calendar in 2020 is being adjusted so as not to clash with the Euro soccer thing.....the GB Lions triple header in a RU Nation went head to head with the RU World Cup.....

...finding it's ow 'arris with both hands would be a challenge for RL admins

You do realise that the F1 budget is £250m and that doesnt include drivers or principals wages.

Obviously wizzed over your head, the reason for a cap so it's not the same team winning all the time else there wouldn't be any reason to participate or is that what you want a 4 -6 team league, I see Leeds couldn't keep within the rules of the game last season

The game still needs the smaller cubs. With the promotion and relegation you are more likely to lose the smaller clubs unless you get the bigger clubs unless they fall apart like Leeds did in which your most likely to bounce back

The guy at Wigan wasn't in the same league as the consortium behind Toronto but, I agree with your point and in a limited market, Toronto will just increase wage inflation.
Nobody would begrudge any players getting a better contract but, the sport over here just cant afford it.

The average gate in the top division then was 7292 in 1989 when Widnes could keep up with Wigan, but that dropped to 5543 in 1995 by which time Wigan had won 21 cups in 7 years or thereabouts. One team winning all the time created a massive crisis and we were saved by a salary capped Superleague.

No disrespect to Wigan, their success was the foundation for a brilliant Junior game that has produced many players we started to see at Bradford in Superleague following their successes (Noble should be reminded that the game is nothing without player development). Noble should be reminded Wigan bought in some fantastic players at the height of their powers, not a man who is simply having his last big payday, just like many antipodeans do.

All eyes on the lad in that first game, if it's not a blockbusting performance it could be all over for SBW as the saviour of the game by 10.00.p.m. However it won't be all over for his mega wages. They could have spent that on player development....

If you let clubs spend what they want, then what you will have in a couple of years time is the club that can afford to give Sonny Bill Williams a few million quid a year will start winning the Grand Final every year. There will be a 20-30,000 drop off in attendance, traditional fans will get first annoyed, second bored, and third just disengaged and stop going. Toronto would basically be the PSG of Super League until their financiers get bored and stop pouring in the money. Sounds brilliant.

SBW signing for Toronto is an example of exactly how the marque rule should work.
A "superstar" counting on the cap as an "average" player and any club with enough brass can have 2 of them.

Having said that, it will take excellent management skills to keep the rest of the squad happy.
All of his team mates know that he's on megabucks and in many cases 10X what they are getting paid and keeping harmony in the squad, especially when they lose a few games, will be a good test of McDermott & Nobles man management skills, aside from the fact that they will all want a pay rise, which may be why Noble want's the cap lifting.

Great point from D.K.Murphy - hope you make the game for some first hand analysis DKM!

Won't all the Cas players know he's on megabucks too?? Cas have some pretty big lads who may want to make a point or two



Will it be the TWP pack standing back whilst they let SWB earn his money, whilst the Cas pack will be hunting the lad!! May be an interesting game after all DKM....

Haha, fair points all of them. I don't have a problem with Toronto, and I'm looking forward to going there in July. I do have a problem with the idea of any team (even Wires, although I'd obviously enjoy it for a while if it happened) just massively outspending everyone else and winning everything with ease by doing so. It turns the whole league into a complete waste of time. It would be bad enough if a domestic team did it, but it Toronto did it then before you know it there are calls to play the Grand Final in Canada to give their fans a chance to see what fans over here have given up on. Once the owners get fed up and the money dries up they then implode like Bradford have, and without over a century of history behind them to keep them propped up, probably just fold altogether. Just plain lifting the salary cap is not a good idea, and the two nodding dog Brians on the Toronto payroll aren't going to convince me it is.