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| Quote ="christopher"The middle 8s might seem a good idea on the surface as it creates 'excitement' but what it also creates is uncertainty for 4 Superleague clubs which in turn means they can't plan for the following year which hinders sponsorship and season ticket sales, we as a sport simply cannot afford to have all the uncertainty for1/3rd of the top tier clubs half way through the season.
Do you think its good that teams are now throwing cash at over rated Aussies in the hope of keeping up ? and we wonder why we don't produce a load of good youngsters, if clubs know they can plan properly after having a bad season it means they are not forced to throw money they don't have at players they don't need. It's just a race to the bottom, the excitement should be at the top of the league not the bottom.
Lets say Either Leeds or Warrington last year got relegated for finishing 9th because they had a bad year, yes it will give some fans a good 'laugh' but it would be a disaster for the Superleague.'"
You are correct in that it creates uncertainty, but not just for super league clubs. Teams in the leagues below SL have to deal with everything you mentioned in addition to not knowing what their central funding allocation will be the following year. Look at the top of the championship right now, it could go down to the last regular fixture of the season before some of those clubs will know if they're going to be playing games against the likes of Hull KR and Leeds, or Dewsbury and Sheffield.
The disparity in income levels is mad.
This setup also does nothing for youth development. Every overseas signing takes the spot of a british player, and those fighting tooth and nail for SL survival are highly unlikely to bring through any junior talent for fear of dropping out of the top tier of the sport.
Some will disagree but I still think licensing (with mandatory reserve teams) is the way to go.
Give those outside of SL some clear KPIs to hit, and give those who move up into SL a few years to prove their worth.
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| 2 up 2 down, 10x10
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"2 up 2 down, 10x10'"
Nah.....2 conferences of 9.....play your own teams H&A and then 1 game against the other 9......25 regular seasons games with an assured 12 home games as well as a Magic weekend bonanza of 3 days 3 games a day.
On Current Form...
Conf 1
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FC
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TORONTO
FAX
LONDON
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CATALAN
WAKEY
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TOULOUSE
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LEIGH
8 home games v your conference sides with another 4 v the other conference sides and Magic weekend.....top 4 from each play off quarter finals to GF.......
What we do't need is a new format designed to increase revenue by increasing the number of games......12 home games is 12 opportunities to budget.....SKY (or whomever) TV cash split evenly between all 18 sides with MINIMAL bonus payments to the teams finishing in the top 4 of each conference.......Maybe take the 4 QF games and 2 Semi's to neutral grounds and let all the clubs make money by selling tickets for these EVENTS....?
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| Quote ="homme vaste"I believe your train of thought might be slightly different come 10PM Friday
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Quote ="Trinity18"SEE YOU ON FRIDAY CALL ME GOD'"
It's Friday boys....... where you at?
CATALAN 19 POINTS (-72)....Salford at Home and Wigan away =21 points
HUDDERSFIELD 19 POINTS (-22icon_cool.gif Castleford away and Wakefield at Home = 21 points
WAKEFIELD 19 POINTS (+25) FC at home and Huddersfield away = 19 points
LEEDS 16 POINTS (-104) Widnes at Home and Salford Away =20 points
As I said in my original Post, Wakefield at Huddersfield is the real deal.......coz I don't see leeds losing next week!
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| Quote ="Call Me God"It's Friday boys.......
where you at?
CATALAN 19 POINTS (-72)....Salford at Home and Wigan away =21 points
HUDDERSFIELD 19 POINTS (-22icon_cool.gif Castleford away and Wakefield at Home = 21 points
WAKEFIELD 19 POINTS (+25) FC at home and Huddersfield away = 19 points
LEEDS 16 POINTS (-104) Widnes at Home and Salford Away =21 points
As I said in my original Post, Wakefield at Huddersfield is the real deal.......coz I don't see leeds losing next week!'"
We’ll be going some to get 5 points from 2 games
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| Quote ="christopher"We’ll be going some to get 5 points from 2 games'"
It's the "SINFIELD" factor
Amended in the original......
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| Quote ="homme vaste"I believe your train of thought might be slightly different come 10PM Friday
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It's Saturday guys............ where you at?
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| Quote ="Call Me God"It's Saturday guys............
where you at?'"
Your train of thought was that leeds would win all of their last 3 games but they haven’t so not,sure what you are chirping about.
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| Catalans could beat Wigan and if other results go their way Catalans could end up in 6th place instead of their current 7th. Then it is on for all and sundry.
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| Any of the sides down to 8th could finish as high as fifth. I fully expect Wakefield to beat Hull next week, Hull are in freefall at the moment and with Connor injured that's only going to get worse, and have little to play for now whereas next weeks game is actually Wakefields best shot at avoiding the Middle eights.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Catalans could beat Wigan and if other results go their way Catalans could end up in 6th place instead of their current 7th. Then it is on for all and sundry.'"
It's not really "on" at all though, is it.
Regardless of what happens after the split, the top 4 is just about nailed on and although there may be a little bit of movement among 2nd, 3rd and 4th, the rest of the top 8 wont make any impact on these sides.
Any one from four could join Widnes, Salford & KR in the middle 8's and this may go down to the last round of fixtures in the regular season.
Assuming Catalan make the top 8, it will have been one hell of a turnaround and you would expect them to make certain of their spot next week, against a spluttering Salford side and they can then turn their attentions to The Challenge Cup
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Your train of thought was that leeds would win all of their last 3 games but they haven’t so not,sure what you are chirping about.'"
My train of thought is as i twas at the start of the thread....that Wakey v Hudds will be a key fixture........still will be IMHO.
Quote ="homme vaste"I believe your train of thought might be slightly different come 10PM Friday
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Quote ="Trinity18"SEE YOU ON FRIDAY CALL ME GOD'"
It's SUNDAY guys............ where you at?
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| Quote ="Call Me God"My train of thought is as i twas at the start of the thread....that Wakey v Hudds will be a key fixture........still will be IMHO.
It's SUNDAY guys............
where you at?
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Jesus, I have a life outside of RLFANS old boy, and I don`t mean sat there researching attendances.
Your thoughts would was that Leeds would win all 3 of there games before the split and that they was never really in threat of the bottom 4, well it is the first game out of those 3 and they have already not won, so you were wrong there already... You made a thread asking whether it would be Wakefield or Hudds which baffled me and still does? We were absolutely dreadful and still managed a draw against Leeds.
The fact that Leeds are now relying on either of the teams above them to lose both of there games and them to win both of there games when they have not won a single super league game in 8 suggests that they are very much in the dog fight that you don`t even want to put there name against.
FWIW I think Wakefield, Hudds, Catalan and Leeds will all pick up victories this weekend and that will be game set and match for the split, you honestly sound as delusional as BM when it comes to Leeds, why can you not just admit that they have more of a chance at this stage of been in that bottom 4 than either Wakefield or Hudds?
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| Quote ="Call Me God"My train of thought is as i twas at the start of the thread....that Wakey v Hudds will be a key fixture........still will be IMHO.
It's SUNDAY guys............
where you at?
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What happened to Leeds beating Wakefield ??
Just because you keep repeating yourself wont make you right .
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| I think that Wakefield will win next week vs Hull and the Wakefield v Hudds Game will decide whether Hudds or Leeds are in the Middle 8's.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"What happened to Leeds beating Wakefield ?? '"
They didn't, but the 2 cocky sods who said "see you Friday" were nowhere to be seen......Wakefield are still very much in the mix.
Quote ="wrencat1873"Just because you keep repeating yourself wont make you right .
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Ah.....the Submission emoje.......wow....and there was me thinking that forums were for debate? As is stands, if the table standings play out this week then Hudds v Wakey will still be the decider.....so the thread is still relevant....
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| All still to play for this week. Its pretty much a given that Catalans and Leeds should win this week, but I don’t think that both Hudds and Wakey will both lose. I’m confident that we can beat Hudds, but if they perform how they did against Wigan they could turn us over. I’d also have Wakey as slight favourites to beat Hull, depending on Hulls injury list and whether they can get a few bodies back. It could very well go down to the last game between Hudds and Wakey, but this weeks results are far from predictable.
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| I’ve never seen the John smiths stadium fuller than it was on Sunday. With turn outs like that they’ll go well
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| Quote ="caslad75" I’d also have Wakey as slight favourites to beat Hull, depending on Hulls injury list and whether they can get a few bodies back. It could very well go down to the last game between Hudds and Wakey, but this weeks results are far from predictable.'"
It seems we(FC) are going to be without both Connor(hamstring) and Kelly(concussion) for Wakefield so really can't see us troubling them on Sunday.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"I’ve never seen the John smiths stadium fuller than it was on Sunday. With turn outs like that they’ll go well'"
You preferred Little Mix to Hunslet away?
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| Quote ="Wadski"You preferred Little Mix to Hunslet away?'"
Early kick off so got to both. Love little mix me
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Early kick off so got to both. Love little mix me'"
Have you been taking a sip from their secret potion?
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Have you been taking a sip from their secret potion?'"
They made his heart break and made him who he is
Regards
King James
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| I got the power <3
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| BLIMEY......well maybe I should have said Wakefield or Catalans or Leeds then?....well played Huddersfield.....top 4 may be out of reach, but after a dodgy start to the season, well done making the 8.
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