Did you have a virtual reality headset on at the time?

So you think all of the 84,241 crowd were either Saints fans or neutrals?

There were about 2,500/3,000 Catalans fans all sat together at one end......I'd be surprised if Saints sold any more than 20,000, but it is fair to say that there were 60,000+ neutrals at the cup final....as is not the case normally.

2500 - 3000 for their first cup final at the first cup final new wembley...

1000 max for the semi final at bolton you would think

And couldn't understand a word they were saying.

He kept getting up from his seat when he heard oui oui

We Catalans fans were not seated at one end. We were seated on halfway, in the lower tier. I have the video.

Bet youve got it on betamax

Indeed, I can recall your seat in the tunnel.

I was there (unlike you) and the Catalans official tour group were not sat on the halfway line, but behind the sticks which I though was weird, but eh, unlike you, they're French......

You are just making stuff up. I was there in the middle of Catalans fans on half way, lower tier, with an English friend. We bought our tickets through Catalans club allocation. Whether this group included the Catalan officials or not I do not know. But I do know that there were with me on or near half way, lower tier, many rows of fans who had come from France. You are in no position to know differently since you don't know me.

Which one of you?

Walter Mitty!!

The irony of this is unbelievable

Ha ha, amazing post. How could he type that 'you are just making stuff up' BRILLIANT. Nice one Chorley Boy !

No, many people attended the 2007 CC Final because it was the first one back at Wembley and wanted to be a part of the occasion, myself included. The fact that we happened to support the French as the underdogs is irrelevant. Should Catalans get there this year it will be a disaster for the RFL with one half of Wembley practically empty.

It's certainly a problem and with Toulouse and Toronto wanting to join the "big boys", it isnt going away and probably, Catalan's being in the semi final, will have cemented the idea of a double header, which, should be a great afternoon of RL.

It certainly makes the idea of the double header the best option.

It depends what we want for the sport. Empty stadiums but "potentially" better sponsorship and TV deals, or fuller stadiums but the foxy-bingo superleague?

Toronto on their own won't deliver the TV deal or the sponsors.....there are currently more Roller Derby leagues and clubs in North America than Rugby League.......and there's no assurances that NYC/BOSTON/HAMILTON/FLORIDA will prove any more interesting to Broadcasters/Sponsors than Roller Derby.....but fantasists and idiots like chorley John and his pseudonyms would have us believe that for the game to survive it must embrace North America at pace......whilst the reality is that Catalans after a dozen years in SL and a rich RL heritage haven't progressed themselves nor the game in France, London after 20 years produced a handful of players but were of no interest to the public and Crusaders in wales were just a fiasco......and there is absolutely nothing to suggest that Toronto or anywhere else you choose to drop a pin on a map will be any different, but like all great magicians, it's easier to deflect your audiences attention whilst performing the trick and the RFL/SL Chairmen will have you concentrate on this new shiny thing whilst they hope you'll ignore the utter straits the game finds itself in......

There were quite a few Catalans fans in the upper South section (opposite the tunnel/entrance), we were sat with them, there was also a few thousand sat in the lower South section toward the West stand, there's a photo of them online before kick off and there's already a load sat in their colours. I would say at least double the 3000 being bandied around were there.

But a great day for Wire or Leeds

Any neutrals planning on making the trip over?

Will be a Leeds vs Saints final with a Leeds win.

Nah it will be the cutting-edge Catalans beating the lacklustre Leeds Rhinos or the woeful Warrington Wolves

Wigan thought that in 1998