[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?6137The minutes from the disciplinary hearing are now online[/url.

I can only assume given the defence offered by Chase and Salford, they haven't bothered looking at the DVD. Ferres is in no position to offload. Neither is the impact by Chase designed to turn him to face his own posts. It's purely and simply an attack to the standing leg with the apparent intent to cause injury. www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/video-r ... 7295668978 That Ferres falls as awkwardly as he does is unfortunate, but the intent is still there IMO.

I can only assume given the defence offered by Chase and Salford, they haven't bothered looking at the DVD. Ferres is in no position to offload. Neither is the impact by Chase designed to turn him to face his own posts. It's purely and simply an attack to the standing leg with the apparent intent to cause injury. www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/video-r ... 7295668978 That Ferres falls as awkwardly as he does is unfortunate, but the intent is still there IMO.

And don't forget the old favourite - head in the face during the wrestle, right up until you are called to 'move'; observe Liam Farrell to see a master at work.

Quote ="bren2k"And don't forget the old favourite - head in the face during the wrestle, right up until you are called to 'move'; observe Liam Farrell to see a master at work.'" Absolutely, there's loads of different techniques. I'm not singling one club out either as my own was guilty of using some of them in the past. But I agree fully with Brian McDermott www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7202295

Quote ="bren2k"And don't forget the old favourite - head in the face during the wrestle, right up until you are called to 'move'; observe Liam Farrell to see a master at work.'" Absolutely, there's loads of different techniques. I'm not singling one club out either as my own was guilty of using some of them in the past. But I agree fully with Brian McDermott www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7202295

Quote ="Him"Absolutely, there's loads of different techniques. I'm not singling one club out either as my own was guilty of using some of them in the past. But I agree fully with Brian McDermott www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7202295'" Couldn't agree more with what McDermott says in that article

Quote ="Him"Absolutely, there's loads of different techniques. I'm not singling one club out either as my own was guilty of using some of them in the past. But I agree fully with Brian McDermott www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7202295'" Couldn't agree more with what McDermott says in that article

Hope next time chase does something like that again, the players just leather him good and proper. Not condoning foul play but love it if he ended up on the end of a good old style les Boyd special.

He'd be safe against Hudds then, they don't have a fight in them.

[iSummary of Player's submissions on the Charge / evidence

Player accompanied by Head Coach Iestyn Harris and CEO Martin Vickers. Player pleads not guilty. Players are coached to turn players so their heads are facing back towards their own posts. In this instance difficult for player to know where to go in. Team mates were expected to take opponent the other way unfortunately player goes other way to what was expected. Has to get opponent to floor to prevent off load. Player goes in and makes contact with opponents hamstring and not his knee. Point of contact not cause of injury it was twisting motion by other involved players. Player is friend of opponent and enquired about his wellbeing after the match. No malice in the tackle. Officials could have called held earlier. [/i

Utter rubbish from Chase, Harris and Vickers.

"There’s a few words I know that get bandied about to describe those type of tackles. The teams that employ those type of tactics talk about malice or toughness, or butchering is another phrase I’ve heard."

I wonder who he's talking about?

It's definitely no Wakefield

Indeed, spot on.

Bit concerned about Childs missing a couple of bannable offences resulting in serious injury the last few weeks - are refs held to account for missing serious foul play in the games they officiate or dot hey just say "I didn't see it sir", then get another game to ref the next week?

and he gets "rewarded" by having huddersfield-st helens!
absolute joke! 9 matches between them and Child didn't see either offence...


as for the case for the defence-laughable, so it wasn't Rangi's fault it was ferres' for falling the wrong way?

How you drew that from what's been posted, about the defence, on the RFL site I have no idea.

Nope, that's how I read it as well. Seem to think chase is blameless

The ref in the Leeds v Wakey game missed a blatant high tackle by Scruton. The ref was adamant it was below the head, indicating the shoulder.

Scruton just got a 1 match ban for it.

There are 2 issues with these "missed" incidents. Firstly the referees themselves.

Why are they missing so many incidents? Is the game too fast for 1 ref or are the refs not trained well enough, not experienced enough and not led well enough to see them? Or are they seeing them but scared/nervous/unwilling to make a big call ie a sending off?


The second issue is that the teams who have to suffer/withstand the offence aren't getting any benefit from the punishment.
Leeds are getting the benefit from Chase's punishment, not Huddersfield.
Obviously I'd prefer these issues to be dealt with at the time but should punishments be served against the team the offence was perpetrated upon? So say Chase is banned for 7 games should maybe 1 or 2 of those games be deferred until Chase plays Huddersfield again?
I'd also say that suspensions should take account of which competition they're committed in. ie Cup or League.


Don't forget it was the ref's fault for not calling held! Poor little Rangi keeps getting picked on! He's not a bad lad, he's a lovable rogue!

The Chase tackle brilliantly summed-up here by YEP's Dave Craven :- www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7204537

The Chase tackle brilliantly summed-up here by YEP's Dave Craven :- www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7204537

can't argue with anything on that piece, it wasn't a challenge it was an attack, it wasn't a dangerous throw it was a cynical attempt to injure an opponent.

The fact ferres knows chase very well and was reluctant to accept his apology says a lot.

That's a good summary by Craven - and much like the Ropati attack, Chase will be back on the field long before his latest victim; that might be within the rules, but doesn't feel like natural justice.

The way he circled his old mate Brett in search of an opportunity to damage him was... sinister. He's occasionally a brilliant talent, but he's also a horrible little turd.

The ref and VR are connected via headsets are they not? Is the solution not simple? Is it not starring us in the face?

VR "Ooh, that was high"
Ref "Thanks" blows whistle!

We got rid of that after Tanseygate in '07.

Plus of course there's at least 3 games per week that aren't on TV plus the Championship/L1 games.

One thing that does annoy me is at TV games when the ref gives a penalty but puts it on report or says he's not sure of the contact/severity etc. The ref has already stopped the game so why not let the VR view it and make a decision? Then we at least get some on-field justice. Any suspensions can still be decided by the disciplinary.

The Burns incident in the Hull KR v Saints is a good example of where that could've provided some justice for Saints. Green would've been at the very least sin binned and probably sent off following a VR review.

Funnily enough, Childs did refer the Burns incident to the video referee as he admitted on #asktheref...."I took the VR's report which was that they were uncertain as to the point of contact." Whether he is able to do so under the rules can be debated, but if he has referred it to the video ref then there is no excuse for getting it wrong.

Sheer incompetence from all involved.

i loved the shoulder charge... i was gutted when it was outlawed.

if i remember correctly, quite a few players were as well (on twitter)

i think it was the Inglis one that was the nail in its coffin.... loads of great memories of shoulder charges.... Morley on Hansen will live long in the memory

I agree, when done right it's great to watch.

Unfortunately the players and coaches are ultimately to blame for its demise. They couldn't control themselves.

Sweet Jesus of Nazareth.

I hope that's not true. Immediately it happened my instinct was to say it's a high shoulder charge so he's got to go, but I gave the ref the benefit of the doubt as he only gets one look and has a lot more to think about than I do sat in my armchair, moving only to go to the fridge and back.

But I can't excuse the VR. It was obvious on the replays where contact was.