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| Hock most definitely is not an mediocre player. I think he's one of the most destructive strike players to play in Super League. Unfortunately he also has a very strong self destructive streak.
He's been given plenty of chances and lots of support at Wigan and Salford. He seemed to calm down at Widnes but I never saw him have particularly good game for them (didn't see that many to be fair). At times last season he was unplayable and he and Sau terrorised some defences playing down our left.
Seems to me the RL community needs to show its fabled strong side and give him plenty of support whatever he chooses to do next. He doesn't need on line abuse, he needs help to handle his demons and either make a go of it at a new club or adjust to life after RL
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| Maybe he could be signed but with a six-week suspension of salary???
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| Unfortunately Gareth Hock is a liability. Even Salford couldn’t afford to continue carrying him, despite the fact our owner has made no secret of the amount of money he is willing to spend to improve the club. With the salary cap as tight as it is, you just can’t have a player earning £100k+ a year spending half the season on the sidelines through his own stupidity.
Reading the comments from other clubs fans (particularly those in Leigh) it reminds me very much of what we were saying when he signed for Salford. Despite the comments from Wigan and Widnes fans we thought Hock would mature and play his best RL with us. How naïve.
He’s the weak link to any team he plays for due to his inability to remain focused and composed for 80 minutes during a game. If he does end up in the Championship, he will make opposition coaches team talks much easier – he’s a ticking time bomb. Get into him from the off and just sit back and wait for the imminent brain fart.
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| Quote ="RedUnderTheBed"Hock most definitely is not an mediocre player... ...At times last season he was unplayable and he and Sau terrorised some defences playing down our left...'" Exactly what happened when you played us at the Hive last year.
Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Unfortunately Gareth Hock is a liability... ...He’s the weak link to any team he plays for due to his inability to remain focused and composed for 80 minutes during a game... ...Get into him from the off and just sit back and wait for the imminent brain fart.'" And exactly what happened when you played us at the Hive last year.
Quote ="CrusaderPete"...in my opinion, London are one of a few teams Hock would improve.'" On a good day, I would agree. The trouble is he seems to have less and less good days as he gets older.
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete":11eteh6k 2003 Young player of the Year, 9 seasons at Wigan,
:11eteh6kDuring those 9 seasons he did not appear as often as his teammates when they were lifting silverware at Wembley and Old Trafford.They seemed to manage without him.:11eteh6k
Quote ="RedUnderTheBed":11eteh6kHock most definitely is not an mediocre player... ...At times last season he was unplayable and he and Sau terrorised some defences playing down our left...'" :11eteh6kExactly what happened when you played us at the Hive last year.
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Sau didn't play at the Hive last year,for Salford.Of the tries scored against London,by Salford,how many,in any way,involved Hock?
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"Sau didn't play at the Hive last year,for Salford.Of the tries scored against London,by Salford,how many,in any way,involved Hock?'"
I can go back and edit the reference to Sau if you like, but as the thread is called "Hock" I thought it was obvious enough who we were discussing.
If being involved in tries is the only thing by which we measure players then clearly most props in the competition don't do anything, though I'd like to see a team play without them.
The point I was making was that Hock absolutely tore into us up the middle last year, but also got himself binned for being a thug. Which is the general thrust of the thread to be honest.
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| If he's been de-registered by Salford does his 6 match ban still apply, or will it only comeinto force when he signs for another club and is re-registered?
As has been said maybe some club will sign him with a 6 week exclusion clause.
Interesting to see who, if anyone, will take a risk with him.
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| BBC GMR's Trevor Hunt Tweeted that Leigh have called a press conference for 4pm tomorrow....
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| This could be interesting. I hope it works out, but if it doesn't then I hope we have cast-iron get out clauses.
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| COULD be a great signing for Leigh if that is his move.
We all know how excellent he can be on his day.He should tear up the Championship
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"If you bothered coming to a game GF, you'd know what our team lacks is balls!!!!'"
Our team lack considerably more than balls. They lack a "future" and/or a belief in a future because yet again the owner had side stepped conventional wisdom and employed people on all the key roles at the club who haven't a clue what they are doing.
Signing Hock would be another mistake, which it looks like we have avoided.
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| Press conference has been postponed.
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| Leigh announced nothing, Trevor Hunt did.
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| Quote ="enigmatic"Our team lack considerably more than balls. They lack a "future" and/or a belief in a future because yet again the owner had side stepped conventional wisdom and employed people on all the key roles at the club who haven't a clue what they are doing.
Signing Hock would be another mistake, which it looks like we have avoided.'"
Yes, but one signing can't do everything, I say we get some Nads in the team, then work the rest out. Mind you it's a moot point, because it would appear Hock's mentality is someone else's problem now.
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| For gods sake Leigh, leave well alone. Don't be the foolish club who thinks they can change him. The bloke is an utter thug and a disgrace to the game. Why cheapen yourselves?
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| Hock and Moimoi in the same side. Frightening:
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| Marwan's pretty much just confirmed it on twitter.
I hope Leigh know what they're doing....
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| Someone on the Leigh Facebook page did a survey asking fans if they wanted Hock at Leigh. At the last count 123 said no, 3 said yes. Somewhat surprising if the Leigh board are so out of touch with what their fanbase wants. In a team that already contains Barlow and Acton, plus a few players that get under opponents' skin, it would be a shame if the RL world in general acknowleged Leigh less for the fantastic, flowing rugby they have often shown over the last year or so than for the more negative and niggling aspects of their play.
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| I see Marwan has now taken to announcing Leigh's signings for them, loves the limelight that guy.
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"Marwan's pretty much just confirmed it on twitter.
I hope Leigh know what they're doing....'"
Still taking it with a pinch of salt til the club itself makes the announcement
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| He'll do a few decent turns for them before the usual rot sets in. I doubt he'll leave Liegh on good terms.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Someone on the Leigh Facebook page did a survey asking fans if they wanted Hock at Leigh. At the last count 123 said no, 3 said yes. Somewhat surprising if the Leigh board are so out of touch with what their fanbase wants. In a team that already contains Barlow and Acton, plus a few players that get under opponents' skin, it would be a shame if the RL world in general acknowleged Leigh less for the fantastic, flowing rugby they have often shown over the last year or so than for the more negative and niggling aspects of their play.'"
It said like it if your in favour but comment no if you're not. It was about 50/50.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Someone on the Leigh Facebook page did a survey asking fans if they wanted Hock at Leigh. At the last count 123 said no, 3 said yes. Somewhat surprising if the Leigh board are so out of touch with what their fanbase wants. In a team that already contains Barlow and Acton, plus a few players that get under opponents' skin, it would be a shame if the RL world in general acknowleged Leigh less for the fantastic, flowing rugby they have often shown over the last year or so than for the more negative and niggling aspects of their play.'"
They asked like if yes or post no, 365 liked
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| Cant complain if the club know what they are doing, surely its on a pay as you pay deal with penalties for discipline. Either way I have to respect what Derek is doing and the mentality of Paul Rowley for promoting attractive rugby.
Put yourself in Paul Rowley's shoes, he has just been given the opportunity to coach a world class player on his day, he is probably as excited as the fans but for very different reasons, can he manage Gareth Hock?
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