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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Bronco"It has everything to do with it. The obvious point is that there is an ingrained, institutionalised bias against RL in th UK printed media as a direct result of 100 years of cultural suppression in the places where influencers are developed and influence is wielded. That wil change over time because those issues are no longer in play to the same extent in schools and universities, and as the internet disintermediates media - but as things stand the effects are still there for all to see.
Your reductionist, rationalist view of "papers print what people wan to read" ignores those cultural factors. If that we're true I'd counter with why did Union club games used to get more coverage when watched by one man and his dog and why did Union have a weekly national magazine TV programme on the Beeb which televised the same games? Sometimes supply creates demand, not the other way around.'"
Also, why does he British press regularly give whole page spreads on irrelevant (to Brits) Union fixtures - ie internaionals on the other side of the world no involving a British team? It cannot be demand as Union is a minor sport compared to fooball and I rarely see whole page reports on mega-fixtures such as Brazil v Agentina. |
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| Quote ="Dally"Also, why does he British press regularly give whole page spreads on irrelevant (to Brits) Union fixtures - ie internaionals on the other side of the world no involving a British team? It cannot be demand as Union is a minor sport compared to fooball and I rarely see whole page reports on mega-fixtures such as Brazil v Agentina.'"
Define the British press that is giving this coverage? I suspect it isn't the red tops, but instead the self declared QUALITY press which is understandable, given the prevalence of union in the schools and iniversities the readers of these papers.
HK bronco.......Union went openly pro 18 years ago......to what do you attribute the continued growth around the world and now the acceptance of 7s as an Olympic event? I'd hazard a guess it has little to do with the playing fields of Eton. In the same period, RL in the uk has stagnated......is this down to the editorial department at the times?
Both codes could be run better but there can be little doubt as to which one is the dog wagging the tail and which one is rugby league. I'd take the IRB over the IRLF any day of the week..... |
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and the stats on the BBC viewing audiences? still waiting .....
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"and the stats on the BBC viewing audiences? still waiting .....'"
same place as 10 hours ago....pay attention and wait less.
Quote Quote ="JB Down Under"Again, where did you get your BBC Tv audience stats from?'"
same twitter source that was used during the RLWC....the final was out drawn by Wales v Australia too.....'" |
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Quote ="gutterfax"How does a UK papers failure to recognise a game between England and New Zealand in its top 10 get to a debate about S15 in Australia? I take it you were ignoring South Africa and New Zealand to suit your agenda by the way....
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Me thinks being a Ru fan living in NZ you should concern yourself with matters closer to home:
Deloitte Sports Review of the 14 semi-professional and amateur rugby unions competing
in New Zealand’s premier provincial rugby competition, the ITM Cup.
Through a financial review of each union’s
annual financial accounts, our findings show that
collectively revenues are falling and accumulated
reserves are being eroded. This, combined with
the well documented difficulties of several
unions, highlights the increasing pressures
placed on those charged with the operational
and financial stewardship of the game.
Financial Performance
There has been a significant decline in revenues over
the previous five financial years, falling by $16 million, or
19%, to $68 million in FY11. Approximately 50% of this
decline occurred in the most recent financial year.
Key revenue streams are sponsorship and grants,
and match related revenues. Other revenues include
transfer fees, event/franchise management, insurance
proceeds and sundry revenue.
The $16 million decline in revenue is primarily related
to lower match related incomes, which has fallen from
$21 million to $9 million over the five years, representing
a drop of 58%.
Income from grants and sponsorship is heavily
reliant on contributions from the NZRU and grants from
gaming operators.
The five provincial unions with professional Super
Rugby based teams generate in excess of 50% of total
revenues although the extent of this has declined from
55% to 51% between FY07 to FY11.
As a consequence of declining revenues, total
expenditures have reduced across the major categories:
team and match related costs, growing the game
and administration expenses. The chart to the right
highlights that the greatest reduction is with team and
match costs, suggesting those in management positions
are consciously reducing match and player costs with
falling revenues.
Collectively, the unions have not generated a
consolidated operating profit in any of the last five years.
Losses range between $0.6 million to almost $7 million,
although the consolidated deficit dropped to its lowest
level in FY11. In total, cumulative operating losses over
this period amount to $16 million.
www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-New ... w_2012.pdf |
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Quote ="gutterfax"How does a UK papers failure to recognise a game between England and New Zealand in its top 10 get to a debate about S15 in Australia? I take it you were ignoring South Africa and New Zealand to suit your agenda by the way....
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Me thinks being a Ru fan living in NZ you should concern yourself with matters closer to home:
Deloitte Sports Review of the 14 semi-professional and amateur rugby unions competing
in New Zealand’s premier provincial rugby competition, the ITM Cup.
Through a financial review of each union’s
annual financial accounts, our findings show that
collectively revenues are falling and accumulated
reserves are being eroded. This, combined with
the well documented difficulties of several
unions, highlights the increasing pressures
placed on those charged with the operational
and financial stewardship of the game.
Financial Performance
There has been a significant decline in revenues over
the previous five financial years, falling by $16 million, or
19%, to $68 million in FY11. Approximately 50% of this
decline occurred in the most recent financial year.
Key revenue streams are sponsorship and grants,
and match related revenues. Other revenues include
transfer fees, event/franchise management, insurance
proceeds and sundry revenue.
The $16 million decline in revenue is primarily related
to lower match related incomes, which has fallen from
$21 million to $9 million over the five years, representing
a drop of 58%.
Income from grants and sponsorship is heavily
reliant on contributions from the NZRU and grants from
gaming operators.
The five provincial unions with professional Super
Rugby based teams generate in excess of 50% of total
revenues although the extent of this has declined from
55% to 51% between FY07 to FY11.
As a consequence of declining revenues, total
expenditures have reduced across the major categories:
team and match related costs, growing the game
and administration expenses. The chart to the right
highlights that the greatest reduction is with team and
match costs, suggesting those in management positions
are consciously reducing match and player costs with
falling revenues.
Collectively, the unions have not generated a
consolidated operating profit in any of the last five years.
Losses range between $0.6 million to almost $7 million,
although the consolidated deficit dropped to its lowest
level in FY11. In total, cumulative operating losses over
this period amount to $16 million.
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Deloitte Sports Review of the 14 semi-professional and amateur rugby unions competing
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wow..things were glum in 2012....but getting better in 2013.
[urlhttp://tvnz.co.nz/rugby-news/nzru-posts-first-operating-profit-in-five-years-5382952[/url
Meanwhile, I attended the NZRL grand final in Auckland last October....less than 1,000 people watched and that included all the friends and families of the playing squads of both the U17's and the Premiers whilst the NZ Warriors saw their home crowds average at Mt Smart was 13,152 DOWN from 15,257 the previous year....no wonder they're taking 4 games on the road this year. 
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A twitter source? That's it? That's your reference?
Back to union with you troll.
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Seems Rugby (sic) is on the nose across NZ
The Crusaders continue to be one of the most popular teams in Super Rugby despite a season of mixed results and decreasing crowd numbers at home.
The seven-time championship winning side have drawn an average crowd size of 14,600 to AMI Stadium this year, a decrease from 17,300 last season but still enough to have them second only to the Auckland-based Blues for New Zealand sides.
Things aren't so rosy for the Hurricanes however with an average of 11,200 at Westpac Stadium.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"A twitter source? That's it? That's your reference?
Back to union with you troll.'"
It's the same twitter feed that the RLWC organisers quoted in their "wasn't it great" press release. As for me being a union troll, the amount of information you are posting regarding the slower but bigger and more popular code is quite alarming......is there something you'd like to share with us? |
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Seems Rugby (sic) is on the nose across NZ
The Crusaders continue to be one of the most popular teams in Super Rugby despite a season of mixed results and decreasing crowd numbers at home.
The seven-time championship winning side have drawn an average crowd size of 14,600 to AMI Stadium this year, a decrease from 17,300 last season but still enough to have them second only to the Auckland-based Blues for New Zealand sides.
Things aren't so rosy for the Hurricanes however with an average of 11,200 at Westpac Stadium.'"
If you're going to fish, at least use accurate bait.
Crusaders 15,084 in 2013, Blues 20,953, Chiefs 14,280, Highlanders 13,096 and Hurricanes 10,850. Crowds down on 2012 at an average of 14,853 from 15,120....just shy of 2% at 1.8%.....not terrible compared to the 2.9% drop across the pond in the NRL for the same season.
Go on, let's have some more doom and gloom in regards to the slower, but bigger and more popular code.
Hmmm...$4,000,000 for one game.
[urlhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/7933904/NZRU-brings-back-big-bucks-from-Twickenham[/url
or $2,500,000 in prizes, including a first prize which is more than the cash on offer for winning the NRL?
[urlhttp://www.aucklandnz.com/events/featured/nrl-nines[/url
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The VT really has become unbearable. Well done Gutterfax and friends.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"The VT really has become unbearable. Well done Gutterfax and friends.'"
How so?
The OP explained their opinion regarding the Guardians lack of RL inclusiveness and pointedly cited rugby Union in their case. I have simply pointed out how misguided it was to expect a paper like the guardian to publish anything about a sport that was of no interest to its readers. Other posters piled in with their usual its not fair/it's a conspiracy posts which I have answered.
A quick glance at the VT topic list would see that this topic, together with the bulls and Nigel thread and the bottom 2 predictor topic are the only three I am currently active in. I have asked a question regarding packers jail term, but other than this particular thread, I have not mentioned or compared Union.....and in this thread, I did not open that can of worms.
Rather than whine like a little bitch in the hope of getting moderators to step in because you disagree with the point of view of a poster, even though the AUP hasn't been broken, could I respectfully suggest you "do one" and join the sheep elsewhere.  |
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"The VT really has become unbearable. Well done Gutterfax and friends.'"
Its the off season, what do you expect? What do you wish to discuss? |
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In a thread discussing union media bias against RL you are always going to get a Union troll like Gutters piping up.
NZ home of Union Gutters, the stronghold of the all blacks and the game in the southern hemisphere? Those crowds are hardly impressive, even less when they are falling year on year, couple with the state of the union in the 2nd tier in NZ and the financial problems the NZRU still is carrying from the last RUWC and the "shakey isles" seems a very apt name for the game there.
Just needs the NRL to get its act together and start supporting the NZRL and the game over there now to see a similiar decline we have seen for Union in Australia. Before you know it the Warriors under 20's will be drawing bigger audiences than S15.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under" Before you know it the Warriors under 20's will be drawing bigger audiences than S15.'"
The Warriors themselves would need to overtake ANZAC Netball before thinking about getting the added 100k+ they would need to get close to a poorly supported S15 franchise first.....but you carry on peddling your snake oil if you must, as it is only lies and old stories that you have in your nal!
Quote ="JB Down Under"and the financial problems the NZRU still is carrying from the last RUWC'"
As for the NZRU, they posted a profit for the last full year and are in no trouble financially as a result of the last RWC.
No comment on the AB's getting $4,000,000 for 1 game whilst the NRL scrape around to reward their winners with far less for an entire season? |
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Quote ="JB Down Under"In a thread discussing union media bias against RL you are always going to get a Union troll like Gutters piping up.'"
Hmmm...you seem more preoccupied with Union than anyone else in this thread..... 
Quote ="JB Down Under"Me thinks being a Ru fan living in NZ you should concern yourself with matters closer to home:
Deloitte Sports Review of the 14 semi-professional and amateur rugby unions competing
in New Zealand’s premier provincial rugby competition, the ITM Cup.
Through a financial review of each union’s
annual financial accounts, our findings show that
collectively revenues are falling and accumulated
reserves are being eroded. This, combined with
the well documented difficulties of several
unions, highlights the increasing pressures
placed on those charged with the operational
and financial stewardship of the game.
Financial Performance
There has been a significant decline in revenues over
the previous five financial years, falling by $16 million, or
19%, to $68 million in FY11. Approximately 50% of this
decline occurred in the most recent financial year.
Key revenue streams are sponsorship and grants,
and match related revenues. Other revenues include
transfer fees, event/franchise management, insurance
proceeds and sundry revenue.
The $16 million decline in revenue is primarily related
to lower match related incomes, which has fallen from
$21 million to $9 million over the five years, representing
a drop of 58%.
Income from grants and sponsorship is heavily
reliant on contributions from the NZRU and grants from
gaming operators.
The five provincial unions with professional Super
Rugby based teams generate in excess of 50% of total
revenues although the extent of this has declined from
55% to 51% between FY07 to FY11.
As a consequence of declining revenues, total
expenditures have reduced across the major categories:
team and match related costs, growing the game
and administration expenses. The chart to the right
highlights that the greatest reduction is with team and
match costs, suggesting those in management positions
are consciously reducing match and player costs with
falling revenues.
Collectively, the unions have not generated a
consolidated operating profit in any of the last five years.
Losses range between $0.6 million to almost $7 million,
although the consolidated deficit dropped to its lowest
level in FY11. In total, cumulative operating losses over
this period amount to $16 million.
www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-New ... w_2012.pdf'"
Quote ="JB Down Under"Seems Rugby (sic) is on the nose across NZ
The Crusaders continue to be one of the most popular teams in Super Rugby despite a season of mixed results and decreasing crowd numbers at home.
The seven-time championship winning side have drawn an average crowd size of 14,600 to AMI Stadium this year, a decrease from 17,300 last season but still enough to have them second only to the Auckland-based Blues for New Zealand sides.
Things aren't so rosy for the Hurricanes however with an average of 11,200 at Westpac Stadium.'"
Quote ="JB Down Under"In a thread discussing union media bias against RL you are always going to get a Union troll like Gutters piping up.
NZ home of Union Gutters, the stronghold of the all blacks and the game in the southern hemisphere? Those crowds are hardly impressive, even less when they are falling year on year, couple with the state of the union in the 2nd tier in NZ and the financial problems the NZRU still is carrying from the last RUWC and the "shakey isles" seems a very apt name for the game there.
Just needs the NRL to get its act together and start supporting the NZRL and the game over there now to see a similiar decline we have seen for Union in Australia. Before you know it the Warriors under 20's will be drawing bigger audiences than S15.'"
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Quote ="JB Down Under"In a thread discussing union media bias against RL you are always going to get a Union troll like Gutters piping up.'"
Hmmm...you seem more preoccupied with Union than anyone else in this thread.....
Quote ="JB Down Under"Me thinks being a Ru fan living in NZ you should concern yourself with matters closer to home:
Deloitte Sports Review of the 14 semi-professional and amateur rugby unions competing
in New Zealand’s premier provincial rugby competition, the ITM Cup.
Through a financial review of each union’s
annual financial accounts, our findings show that
collectively revenues are falling and accumulated
reserves are being eroded. This, combined with
the well documented difficulties of several
unions, highlights the increasing pressures
placed on those charged with the operational
and financial stewardship of the game.
Financial Performance
There has been a significant decline in revenues over
the previous five financial years, falling by $16 million, or
19%, to $68 million in FY11. Approximately 50% of this
decline occurred in the most recent financial year.
Key revenue streams are sponsorship and grants,
and match related revenues. Other revenues include
transfer fees, event/franchise management, insurance
proceeds and sundry revenue.
The $16 million decline in revenue is primarily related
to lower match related incomes, which has fallen from
$21 million to $9 million over the five years, representing
a drop of 58%.
Income from grants and sponsorship is heavily
reliant on contributions from the NZRU and grants from
gaming operators.
The five provincial unions with professional Super
Rugby based teams generate in excess of 50% of total
revenues although the extent of this has declined from
55% to 51% between FY07 to FY11.
As a consequence of declining revenues, total
expenditures have reduced across the major categories:
team and match related costs, growing the game
and administration expenses. The chart to the right
highlights that the greatest reduction is with team and
match costs, suggesting those in management positions
are consciously reducing match and player costs with
falling revenues.
Collectively, the unions have not generated a
consolidated operating profit in any of the last five years.
Losses range between $0.6 million to almost $7 million,
although the consolidated deficit dropped to its lowest
level in FY11. In total, cumulative operating losses over
this period amount to $16 million.
www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-New ... w_2012.pdf'"
Quote ="JB Down Under"Seems Rugby (sic) is on the nose across NZ
The Crusaders continue to be one of the most popular teams in Super Rugby despite a season of mixed results and decreasing crowd numbers at home.
The seven-time championship winning side have drawn an average crowd size of 14,600 to AMI Stadium this year, a decrease from 17,300 last season but still enough to have them second only to the Auckland-based Blues for New Zealand sides.
Things aren't so rosy for the Hurricanes however with an average of 11,200 at Westpac Stadium.'"
Quote ="JB Down Under"In a thread discussing union media bias against RL you are always going to get a Union troll like Gutters piping up.
NZ home of Union Gutters, the stronghold of the all blacks and the game in the southern hemisphere? Those crowds are hardly impressive, even less when they are falling year on year, couple with the state of the union in the 2nd tier in NZ and the financial problems the NZRU still is carrying from the last RUWC and the "shakey isles" seems a very apt name for the game there.
Just needs the NRL to get its act together and start supporting the NZRL and the game over there now to see a similiar decline we have seen for Union in Australia. Before you know it the Warriors under 20's will be drawing bigger audiences than S15.'"
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A meager profit for the first time in 5 years (only due to selling the all black jersey to aig)
The NRL revenue is double the nzru and aru put together lol.
RL is coming to get you NZ
The innovative format which brings together every NRL team already has attendance at 36,000 per day two months out from the landmark tournament and is on track to virtually sell out the 44,000 capacity Eden Park on both days.
With two months to go before the tournament starts, ticket revenue has passed over $3million – the highest figure ever recorded for a rugby league event in New Zealand.
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A meager profit for the first time in 5 years (only due to selling the all black jersey to aig)
The NRL revenue is double the nzru and aru put together lol.
RL is coming to get you NZ
The innovative format which brings together every NRL team already has attendance at 36,000 per day two months out from the landmark tournament and is on track to virtually sell out the 44,000 capacity Eden Park on both days.
With two months to go before the tournament starts, ticket revenue has passed over $3million – the highest figure ever recorded for a rugby league event in New Zealand.
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Quote ="JB Down Under"A meager profit for the first time in 5 years (only due to selling the all black jersey to aig)
The NRL revenue is double the nzru and aru put together lol.
RL is coming to get you NZ
The innovative format which brings together every NRL team already has attendance at 36,000 per day two months out from the landmark tournament and is on track to virtually sell out the 44,000 capacity Eden Park on both days.
With two months to go before the tournament starts, ticket revenue has passed over $3million – the highest figure ever recorded for a rugby league event in New Zealand.
www.bulldogs.com.au/news-display ... cord/88605'"
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Quote ="JB Down Under"A meager profit for the first time in 5 years (only due to selling the all black jersey to aig)
The NRL revenue is double the nzru and aru put together lol.
RL is coming to get you NZ
The innovative format which brings together every NRL team already has attendance at 36,000 per day two months out from the landmark tournament and is on track to virtually sell out the 44,000 capacity Eden Park on both days.
With two months to go before the tournament starts, ticket revenue has passed over $3million – the highest figure ever recorded for a rugby league event in New Zealand.
www.bulldogs.com.au/news-display ... cord/88605'"
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"RU the least watched footy code in Australia lol
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I think I am supposed to
It's a game the more insecure RL fans among us play to make themselves feel better about how small RL actually is when compared to the slower, but bigger and more popular code.
For example:
Point out that the Irish Rugby Football Union, who run a sport that is behind Gaelic Football, Hurling and soccer, generates a bigger turn over than the RFL and the stock response is $1,000,000,000 for a TV deal in Australia.
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Point out that the Welsh RFU generates more than the RFL, as does the Scottish RFU too and the stock response is State of Origin gets 4,000,000 viewers.
One of the problems with this game is that most of the "proof" delivered to show how MASSIVE RL is in Australia and how the media Bias is keeping RL down in the UK is actually only opinion. AFL is bigger in Australia and is actually a NATIONAL sport as to the NRL which has 62/5% or 10 of it's 16 sides in one state (and that's counting ACT as a state  ), whilst in the UK 12 of the 14 (86%) of the teams are along 1 motorway. That means that 22 of the 30 (73%) professional clubs in RL around the world, come from 2 core regions......but this fact is ignored when discussing the supposed IRB/RFU led media bias against League. The actual viewing figures of actual viewers who tune in in greater numbers to watch Union everywhere other than Australia FTA (the pay TV records in Australia belong to Union by the way).
Aviva feel the need to pay 4 million a year for naming rights of a competition that delivers comparable attendance and viewing figures as Super League, whilst BT pay double for the rights, The RLWC delivered cut price RL to the British public but the 160,000 increase in fans didn't deliver the financial clout expected, the recent All Blacks match v England attracted 1,000,000+ viewers on Pay TV........that is 4 times the audience for the SL grand final in 2013.....but these FACTS, if the self declared defenders of the RFL faith are to be believed are not important.....well, not as important as the Guardian Newspaper, whose readership are not interested in RL, omitting a game of RL from its 2013 sports round up! |
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Again best to get your facts correct, in terms of population the NRL has a greater national reach of clubs as afl has NO clubs outside of capital cities.
Good to see your embarrassed by rugby unions slow death in Australia and rl's dominance and are now switching to another code to take a pop at RL, classic trolling.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Again best to get your facts correct, in terms of population the NRL has a greater national reach of clubs as afl has NO clubs outside of capital cities.'"
AFL has teams in more states than the NRL. It also has a crowd average that is over double that of the NRL and gets bigger TV viewing figures across the board.....that's why you roll out 3 midweek pantomime games as a defence
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I could have sworn the British Lions toured Australia in 2013 and quite a few people paid top dollar to watch them? I'm also pretty confident that the average attendance for Aussie SL teams in 2013 was 17,494......which is more than 15,940 isn't it? Interesting that you've moved away from NZ, but not surprising given more people in NZ tuned in to watch the B&I Lions than bothered with the Warriors in 2013.
I could have also replied to your earlier posts about the unions in NZ with a breakdown of the 14 loss making NRL clubs, not to mention that 80%+ of the NRL and RL's income is from TV, a situation that is the #1 priority to change as quickly as possible because it isn't a sustainable business model.
I could also repeat my request for your thoughts on the All Blacks getting 4 million for 1 game...more month than the NRL champs get for an entire season
BTW, I used AFL purely to show that the NRL isn't as dominant as some misguided posters on here would like us all to believe......the state you live in his a couple of AFL sides does it not? Oh...and a S15 side as well. How many NRL teams are there in WA? |
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You know, I'm starting to think people on these boards see being passionate about rugby league as a crime. Being positive about it is punishable by death (by very long, convoluted posts that do nothing but reiterate the original point, in more words.)
The sport may boom or bust, but at the end of the day were all (well most) here because rl is the sport we love.
People should be applauded for hounding the media, tv, whoever for trying to make them listen to what's important, not sneered at. Without people emailing journalists telling them how wrong they are then status quo remains.
Oh, and I couldn't give a stuff what the Irish rugby union figures are
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"People should be applauded for hounding the media, tv, whoever for trying to make them listen to what's important'"
What's important?
Important to whom? The OP made it clear that in their opinion, the Guardian were wrong to not only exclude the RLWC semi-final but that they compounded their error by including the Union game that didn't feature England.
Opinions are like s, as in we all have one, but the opinions that matter most here is that of both the owners and editorial team at the Gruardian, together with their readers opinions too.
Nobody is knocking Rugby League. What is happening is that childish and idiotic enthusiasm is being reigned in. The BBC have taken RL off their sports landing page tabs, the Times, Telegraph, Indy, Guardian, Observer, Mail, mail on Sunday, express and other non-redtops will continue to give RL little in the way of coverage because it isn't of interest to their readers.
To childishly demand attention BECAUSE YOU LIKE SOMETHING is idiotic in the extreme. It is the responsibility of the RFL as well as the clubs, players and fans to spread the word. Get the attendances up. Get the viewing figures up. Get the NATIONAL sponsors on boards THEN and only then will the press and other media give the game some people on here demand as a god given right.
And before anyone pipes up with the "why does Union get it" argument, they get it because the y sell 80,000 tickets to an international in a heartbeat, get 1 million viewers on Pay TV and will shift the better part of 2.5 million tickets to their RWC in 2015 without the need for double headers. ALL of their competition will be available on FTA TV.......as in on ITV, not access TV and 2 years out, the venues, sponsors, KO times and pricing is already known! They know how to play the media game. |
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), whilst in the UK 12 of the 14 (86%) of the teams are along 1 motorway. That means that 22 of the 30 (73%) professional clubs in RL around the world, come from 2 core regions......but this fact is ignored when discussing the supposed IRB/RFU led media bias against League. The actual viewing figures of actual viewers who tune in in greater numbers to watch Union everywhere other than Australia FTA (the pay TV records in Australia belong to Union by the way).
