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| "nouvelle riche" ? Well his wife might be, can I suggest you check your French grammar?
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer""nouvelle riche" ? Well his wife might be, can I suggest you check your French grammar?'"
And from a "Frenchman" as well.....tut tut.
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| I actually think JC thinks we are taking the report seriously. Whilst it would be very nice I don't think there isn't a person on this thread, other than the op, who hasn't a little bit of Sodium Chloride gripped between their thumb and index finger.
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| Quote ="Yorkshire_Red"And from a "Frenchman" as well.....tut tut.'"
it's the American spelling
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| Quote ="salford1970"Worzel,
Both of us are being tongue in cheek. Nothing jealous, we all know Bradford are going through a torrid time but being able to use humour to mask the pain is something we do. Believe me at Salford we have had more than enough practice.'"
Wasn't aimed at you. I also support Salford.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Marwyn Koukash is a typical [inouveau riche[/i on the make socially. Problem is that his club is Salford, not an established powerhouse like Wigan, Warrington, St Helens or Leeds. Salford just doesn't have the same appeal.'"
But we will soon. Hold on to your hat my froggy friend.
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| The derision poured on Koukash exemplifies the challenge in getting this sport where it deserves to be. There is in fact no reason at all for the sport to ridicule, or worse (as it currently does), block, his ambition. But still we do.
Poor little Salford? Billy Slater? Are you drunk? Don't you realize that Salford is supposed to be a failure in a failing sport? We can't have some rich guy coming in, scaring us with his plans to upset the status quo, showing people what success is, and embarrassing plenty people by showing what can be achieved if you start off by having a clue what you're doing. What were we thinking? Let's just carry on the way we are, who needs success?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE" ... Problem is that his club is Salford, not an established powerhouse like Wigan, Warrington, St Helens or Leeds. Salford just doesn't have the same appeal.
Given that handicap [... I consider it most unlikely that Slater or Williams will move to Salford in 2015.'"
Sportsmen can be motivated by many things - the desire for fame, for winning trophies, for money, et cetera. Some would relish the challenge joining a side that finished 14th in SL in 2013 and helping to transform it back into the glamour club it was in the 1930s and 1970s. The 'handicap' of not being a current powerhouse may just make the challenge more appealing. (Or it may not, but Marwyn has nothing to lose, and plenty to gain, by aiming for the best).
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| Quote ="RLBandit"The derision poured on Koukash exemplifies the challenge in getting this sport where it deserves to be. There is in fact no reason at all for the sport to ridicule, or worse (as it currently does), block, his ambition. But still we do. '"
Is the sport ridiculing Koukash? Or just a handful of bitter fans? I think many more have adopted a wait and see attitude because although Koukash has grabbed headlines by saying he'd like to sign the top players (and nothing wrong with grabbing headlines btw), up to now he doesn't seem to have tried too hard to remove the obstacles that would currently prevent him doing so, other than by complaing via the media.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Is the sport ridiculing Koukash? Or just a handful of bitter fans? I think many more have adopted a wait and see attitude because although Koukash has grabbed headlines by saying he'd like to sign the top players (and nothing wrong with grabbing headlines btw), up to now he doesn't seem to have tried too hard to remove the obstacles that would currently prevent him doing so, other than by complaing via the media.'"
So far I think he's doing it just right, appoint a coach with a proven track record, build a new squad with the players currently available, re-build the supporting infrastructure within the club and start to market the product. As that starts to pay dividends next season, and I'm sure it will, then I think we'll see Dr K begin to push more and more to realise his (and our, that's the long suffering Salford faithful) ambitions.
It's going to be a fun ride - hold on tight!
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| Is Danny Kirmond still going to Salford????
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"Is Danny Kirmond still going to Salford????'"
His name has been bounded about but that was when Wakey were having a fire sale. They are recruiting now which means they can probably afford to keep him.
Name being mentioned on the Scarlet Turkey is Harrison Hansen.
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"Is Danny Kirmond still going to Salford????'"
Not sure he'd suit red - I heard brown is more his colour.
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"Not sure he'd suit red - I heard brown is more his colour.'"
Right over my head mate. Guessing it is humour, could you spell it out please, I ain't too clever today.
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| Quote ="salford1970"Right over my head mate. Guessing it is humour, could you spell it out please, I ain't too clever today.'"
Just type in on google Kirmond snapchat and look on the images.
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| For anyone interested, Captain Morley is running tonight in the 5.10 at Kempton. Odds of 10/1, a decent e/w shout.
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| Koukash is reportedly worth around £600 million.
How awesome is that for RL and Salford!
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Koukash is reportedly worth around £600 million.
How awesome is that for RL and Salford!'"
Not very if he's not allowed to spend any of it.
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| Quote ="Mike87"Not very if he's not allowed to spend any of it.'"
He can spend it all on RL if he wants, just not on player's salaries.
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| Koukash can want whatever he likes. The odds of the other SL chairmen allowing the rules to be changed just so he can go out and buy success are close to zero.
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| Koukash should just buy Super League can make it stronger than the NRL
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| Funnily enough a good example of ownership of a sport could be F1 where Ecclestone is lord and most of the "teams" are constantly treading a financial abyss.
Now where have I heard of that before?
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"He can spend it all on RL if he wants, just not on player's salaries.'"
And this is precisely where RL needs to get real. Rich people generally want success for their own club. With the right system (e.g. no cap or much higher cap or marquee exemptions, with very tight squad limits) the rest of the sport can benefit from the personal ambitions of rich people. Or we can continue to shut money out of the game and live in the dreamland where someone is going to just come in and invest in 'the game' rather than through a club. Enjoy the wait.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"And this is precisely where RL needs to get real. Rich people generally want success for their own club. With the right system (e.g. no cap or much higher cap or marquee exemptions, with very tight squad limits) the rest of the sport can benefit from the personal ambitions of rich people. Or we can continue to shut money out of the game and live in the dreamland where someone is going to just come in and invest in 'the game' rather than through a club. Enjoy the wait.'"
Couldn't of put it better myself.
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| What would happen if Koukash, or another chairman, was to sign a squad costing 3x times the annual turnover of his club, then walk away/die/see his business empire go into meltdown?
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